Torque plus angle tool?

[jeepnut24]

Ok, Im in the process of swapping in a Gen 3 GM small block. It uses a variety of torque plus angle fasteners. One of the books Im reading shows a nice SnapOn angle tool attached to a torque wrench. Anyone have a part number? Or other MFGs options for the same tool? I don't think I would like to trust my "Judgment" on an angle.

Thanks

 

[Art From De Leon]

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?item_ID=8800&group_ID=980

 

[chadster1]

Or you could get the http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...=19918&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

 

[Zrexxer]

The Snap On products aside, you can also get the torque angle gauge from Cornwell for about $17, made by OTC... in case you didn't want to spend the $80 for the SO version.

http://www.cornwelltools.com/webcat/products.php?product=OW4554-%2d-Torque-Angle-Guage#

 

[daveblank]

Or other MFGs options for the same tool? Thanks

MST65 & TAG281
http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2108&page=3&#30180


EWTC250F
http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2108&page=7&#66102

 

[jeepnut24]

Thanks for the links...

 

[SpeedyWS6]

Or you could get the http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item...=19918&supersede=&store=snapon-store&tool=all

How well with that bad boy hold up to Powerstroke head bolts? Can it be used over 250 ft lbs when doing angles?

Powerstroke sequence...

65ft
85ft
90*
90*
90*

 

[Art From De Leon]

How well with that bad boy hold up to Powerstroke head bolts? Can it be used over 250 ft lbs when doing angles?

Powerstroke sequence...

65ft
85ft
90*
90*
90*

Any idea to what each of those steps would work out in numeric ft. lbs.?

If the 1/2" doesn't work, SO also has a 3/4" drive torque angle gauge.

 

[crewchief888]

Any idea to what each of those steps would work out in numeric ft. lbs.?

If the 1/2" doesn't work, SO also has a 3/4" drive torque angle gauge.

a lot more than you'd want to see printed in the specs.
it's not about the torque, it's about elongating /stretching the bolt to increase clamp loads.
out of curiosity we attempted to figure this out a couple times. we got vastly different final torque specs, found some large off highway headbolts were over 600 ft/lbs using the torque turn method.
i dunno but my back didnt complain as much about torqueing 26 head bolts to 240 ft/lbs + 90* as knowing i had to pull over 600 ft/lbs
also ya get to buy more bolts that way, eventually the bolts stretch past their wear limits and need to be replaced.

 

[Toolhorder]

How well with that bad boy hold up to Powerstroke head bolts? Can it be used over 250 ft lbs when doing angles?

Powerstroke sequence...

65ft
85ft
90*
90*
90*

It's not really anything special, just an adapter with a gauge on it. The torque just moves through it it's not stored in it or anything. It shouldn't break. I've done sequences like the one above without a problem.
The newer electronic torque wrench is way better and faster in my opinion but I haven't needed one enough to justify the cash.

 

[Art From De Leon]

I used mine mostly on JD 446 rod bolts, the initial torque is 55 ft lbs, followed by X degrees. The only head bolts that I remember that required torque turn were on the 619
engines, but the last dealer I was at never had a tractor that big in the shop with engine, or power train problems, thank GOD. I don't even think we had the splitting stands, and special tools to work on them.

 

[seth_man]

How well with that bad boy hold up to Powerstroke head bolts? Can it be used over 250 ft lbs when doing angles?

Powerstroke sequence...

65ft
85ft
90*
90*
90*

ive used my 1/2 tech angle for powerstrokes before, it will hold up. but its much easier to use a big breaker bar and an angle gauge.

 

[crewchief888]

I used mine mostly on JD 446 rod bolts, the initial torque is 55 ft lbs, followed by X degrees. The only head bolts that I remember that required torque turn were on the 619
engines, but the last dealer I was at never had a tractor that big in the shop with engine, or power train problems, thank GOD. I don't even think we had the splitting stands, and special tools to work on them.

i used to build a lot of deere 6619. those 26 head bolts would wear your *** out. i gave up using the angle guage, and started marking a deep socket at the correct degrees. a long SO 3/4dr handle/breaker bar head worked best.
the last dealer i worked at i was in the rebuild room for almost 8 years.
we averaged 1 engine / week
1 trans / week.
300 water pumps / year
2-3 radial piston pumps/ week
1-2 steering valves/week
plus pumps, excavator cylinders, accumulators, basically anything that could be removed from a machine.