Trim around pole barn door

[renloy]

Whenever it rains I see water dripping out of this trim joint on top of the door opening. Is there a piece of trim missing thats allowing the water to get in there?

 

[NUTTSGT]

Well, I'd guess the water is just finding it's path of least resistance.

I would think there should have been some J-channel (or similar trim) for the siding to sit in after the door opening was wrapped. The missing trim should direct the water off to the side of the door and down. It appears that somebody took a short cut.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Have you climbed up there and taken a look what is behind the wrapped door way ? How long has that been like that ?

You may not be happy with what you find and it has probably made it's way into the insulation.

 

[renloy]

Only had it built around 10 months ago and no insulation yet. Figured i better deal with it now before there is a door or anything else in the way.

 

[rburke65]

I would assume the water is running down the siding into the trim. I believe that trim piece is usually one piece so the water would run down he side.....not drip from the seam.

 

[bullnerd]

I'm with Nutts. Looks like it needs J channel.

 

[renloy]

Called the guy who built it and he's supposed to come out and look at it. I think his kid did that part of the job and he just missed the trim piece.

 

[readhead]

For that application there would be a jamb trim and then a J trim over that. Right now you have nothing to keep water out of the building. Water is actually being funneled into the building.

 

[493mike]

I concur.
Mike

 

[blair683]

My pole building is vinyl sided but should be the same concept. I put a piece of drip cap under the siding as seen in the below video. I then put my j channel on top of that. Obviously I did the drip cap and j channel before installing the siding. You could probably loosen your panels and tuck a drip cap up behind them. Looks like the people cut some corners. It would have been nicer if they wrapped your jams around to the inside then nail it on the inside so you can’t see the nails. Or at the very least they should have used white trim nails.

 

[lakeroadster]

Here is how the flashing is done on my Lester building. The Head Section detail is the overhead trim, the Jamb Section detail is the sides.

Notice how the trim hangs down in front so water can't run back into the building.

 

[renloy]

Thank you lakeroadster! I was having a hard time picturing that in my head. Now I know what to look for when he tells me what he's going to do about it.

 

[lakeroadster]

Thank you lakeroadster! I was having a hard time picturing that in my head. Now I know what to look for when he tells me what he's going to do about it.

Pictures.. worth a thousand words'ish

 

[Radix2]

How wide is the door?

Even if you do it as Lester's detail shows, if they use two pieces of j channel because the door is wider than the j they have ( and everywhere else j is used as a bottom catch ) then there is a break letting the water through when the j has water in it when it rains where the peices **** together.

I don't know if anyone has a good fix for this issue... and where the j ends and is supposed to spill the water off the sides ( but somehow not under the siding).

 

[brownbagg]

its running down the walls and catching the j trim, I drilled holes in mine to keep from holding water, Its a bad design but they all do it that way

 

[renloy]

The opening is 20'x12'. Yeah I was thinking about where the water is supposed to go and not coming up with too many options other than the middle or the sides. I can live with that as long as the wood doesn't rot under that trim.

 

[NUTTSGT]

For that application there would be a jamb trim and then a J trim over that. Right now you have nothing to keep water out of the building. Water is actually being funneled into the building.

You're correct, I corrected my post. My mind works faster than my fingers do on the key board.

I said J-channel before the opening was wrapped, in essence, the opening is wrapped prior to the siding.

Fact of the matter is, if there is no J-channel, there should be some, which is what I was alluding to.

 

[lakeroadster]

How wide is the door?

Even if you do it as Lester's detail shows, if they use two pieces of j channel because the door is wider than the j they have ( and everywhere else j is used as a bottom catch ) then there is a break letting the water through when the j has water in it when it rains where the peices **** together.

I don't know if anyone has a good fix for this issue... and where the j ends and is supposed to spill the water off the sides ( but somehow not under the siding).

The door surround piece is one piece at the top, and one piece for each side (no seams).

The J trim goes outside, over the top of the surround trim, and the J trim is one piece and is open on each end.

No fix needed.. it works.

Folks tend to use J-trim in areas it was never intended to be used. On my barn the only place it is used, IIRC, is above the overhead doors, and the man door. None are spliced.