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man that *****...honestly i've become very conservative with car buying recently and would walk if i were you. you've never even seen this car in person? at a minimum i would find a shop near him that knew old triumph's and could give it a good once over and make him take it there. you pay and only speak with the mechanics there so YOU'RE their client. and i wouldn't even think about it anymore until he presents the title. but that's just me.

BTW...why do you use title caps for pronouns? i'm really just curious because habits like that are interesting to me. i'm lazy and capitalize nearly nothing. but it sounds like you're referring to him as god because churchies do that for some reason too...

He is a cop in a VERY small town. I am sure He knows all the mechanics in His town, probably friends.....
Title caps for pronouns? What is a pronoun? haha! I didnt do well in English/comp, whatever they called it......
 
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Backing up a tow dolly becomes crazy difficult if the platform that the towed vehicle's wheels attach to sits on a central pivot point (U-haul). Fixed platforms are much easier to back up in a straight line. Locking the steering wheel isn't an option on a Spitfire. :)
 

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You could also use a bumper-bar. I towed our 240Z from Vancouver to Saskatoon, through the mountains and across the prairies, about 1100 miles with nary an issue. Didn't remove DS either.


You guys have taught me something, I had no idea you couldn't back up a vehicle on a tow dolly!

Jason - is that your sig-other in your av? I hope so for your sake - WOW!

I had an early 70's Spitfire - most fun I had in a car in a long time! Total go-karts!
 
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Well, it looks like the deal is off. The seller never called Me back, after I called Him the last time. I offered Him more than His asking price and He accepted., but He seemed to be having second thoughts. Said He couldnt find the title, even though the E-Bay ad said free and clear. I am really dissapointed, I have looked a long time for this car, only to find a squirrely seller. I had flat bed trailer lined up, cash in hand, only needed a pick up time. Damhik!
 

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Sorry to hear that. I guess that should fall into the "it was meant to be" category. Keep up the search. You'll find a good one. There is a pretty big Triumph club in Texas and there are some specialist classifieds you could search. PM me if you need any pointers.

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Sorry to hear that. I guess that should fall into the "it was meant to be" category. Keep up the search. You'll find a good one. There is a pretty big Triumph club in Texas and there are some specialist classifieds you could search. PM me if you need any pointers.

Jeremy

Thanks, I appreciate it. I guess this one wasnt meant to be...:sad:
 

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Real sorry to hear the sale went south. I'm sure there'll be another next week.

As moot as it now is, to add to the tow dolly reversing debate, it's no different to pushing back an aircraft. the secret is being able to see whats going on with the bar, which has a pivot on both ends. It also really helps if the steering axle is close to the bar (but not essential). A skilled pushback driver can push a 747 back 3 times its own length, turn 90 degrees and line it up on the centre line, on the BACK of the Tug. Pushing back from the front is a breeze. (I'll let you into a secret though, the smaller the load ( and bar ) the harder the push)
 
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Real sorry to hear the sale went south. I'm sure there'll be another next week.

As moot as it now is, to add to the tow dolly reversing debate, it's no different to pushing back an aircraft. the secret is being able to see whats going on with the bar, which has a pivot on both ends. It also really helps if the steering axle is close to the bar (but not essential). A skilled pushback driver can push a 747 back 3 times its own length, turn 90 degrees and line it up on the centre line, on the BACK of the Tug. Pushing back from the front is a breeze. (I'll let you into a secret though, the smaller the load ( and bar ) the harder the push)

Haha! I happen to know a little about aircraft ground handling. I have stacked many a hanger, trying to beat a Texas hailstorm, 5 solid years of it, never a ding. A good spotter sure helps! When We had "special" aircraft, Blue Angels, Thunderbirds, ect, I was only one allowed, beside their ground crews. I really enjoyed it. One time I had to install a couple of V-22 into the Super Guppy, with the Commandant of the Marine Corps watching Me. NO room for error.;)
I am already looking at a couple of Spits on E-Bay, they are all over the scale. I just want a nice driver, not a project.
 

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Hey Bronson, this one popped up in cincy...low miles and priced right

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/3153609460.html

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Now that the deal is back on. ....I am taking a flat bed wooden decked double axle trailer to pick up the Spitfire. What is the best way to tie-down, secure the car? 900 miles ride home, lots of interstate. Thanks!
 
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Hey Bronson, this one popped up in cincy...low miles and priced right

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/3153609460.html

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We've had a vote and you are all hereby banned from making changes to any model of vehicle designed in Great Britain, especially in regard to bumpers. You've brought it upon yourselves, as evidenced above.

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Dear Americans,

We've had a vote and you are all hereby banned from making changes to any model of vehicle designed in Great Britain, especially in regard to bumpers. You've brought it upon yourselves, as evidenced above.

Sincerely

Great Britain

P.S. We invented everything you know, Including The USA.

Wow.:rolleyes:
 

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Thanks very much, but the seller called me today.
He was waiting for Me to call Him back, just a mis-understanding, and He found the title, so , ROAD TRIP!!
I like that blue, but a Spitfire should be RED. Thanks again!

Actually, I think you'll find the Icon Colour for a Spitfire (or GT6) is actually Magenta:

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Note the lack of railroad buffers on the front also.

For reference, British car Icon Colours:

MG - British Racing Green
Triumph Spitfire & GT6 - Magenta
Triumph Stag - Yellow
Triumph Dolomite Sprint & TR models - Red
Mini - Red Body, White roof
Jaguar Sports Models - British Racing Green
Ford RS Models - White
Healy - Metallic Light Blue
Aston Martin DB Models - Silver
Lotus - Green with yellow stripes (except Esprit (white))
 
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Actually, I think you'll find the Icon Colour for a Spitfire (or GT6) is actually Magenta:

View media item 23178
Note the lack of railroad buffers on the front also.

For reference, British car Icon Colours:

MG - British Racing Green
Triumph Spitfire & GT6 - Magenta
Triumph Stag - Yellow
Triumph Dolomite Sprint & TR models - Red
Mini - Red Body, White roof
Jaguar Sports Models - British Racing Green
Ford RS Models - White
Healy - Metallic Light Blue
Aston Martin DB Models - Silver
Lotus - Green with yellow stripes (except Esprit (white))

Thanks, V-Man....I am afraid if I drove a "magenta" colored car in these parts, I would be in for a taunting, and perhaps a severe beating....:scared:
My Buddy in England is already trying to make Me wear a tweed hat and matching jacket.....:eek: Tea and scones,oh, Dear....:willy_nil
 

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I don't have one to look at specifically, but the frame and suspension have areas to loop a ratcheting tie-down. It is pretty straight forward where to not put them. You also have the ship tie-down loop at the back. Some others should chime in with specifics. If not, I know a guy who just trailered his '70 Spit and will ask him.
 

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Actually, I think you'll find the Icon Colour for a Spitfire (or GT6) is actually Magenta:

View media item 23178
Note the lack of railroad buffers on the front also.

For reference, British car Icon Colours:

MG - British Racing Green
Triumph Spitfire & GT6 - Magenta
Triumph Stag - Yellow
Triumph Dolomite Sprint & TR models - Red
Mini - Red Body, White roof
Jaguar Sports Models - British Racing Green
Ford RS Models - White
Healy - Metallic Light Blue
Aston Martin DB Models - Silver
Lotus - Green with yellow stripes (except Esprit (white))

Wow, never heard of Icon colors. For me, an icon color is the color of the best car I could find. Plus, for Triumphs, it is all about era. Magenta, which I like, is a great early to mid-'70s color, but you won't see that on earlier or later cars so unless you go by model change, icon colors make no sense. Red with tan interior looks pretty iconic to me.

Also, that Magenta Spit has the chrome bumpers blacked out.
 
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The 'frame' on a Spitfire is shaped like the letter "I". Your best bet is to use wheel nets. Failing that, the front cross members and the rear wishbones. Even then I don't like it since it puts a lot of stress on the parts in directions not meant for that. Triumphs are weak enough as it is.
 

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I would strap down the wheels, that way the car's suspension is "working".
If you strap down by the suspension, you are expecting the trailers suspension to cushion the car.
 

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Dear Americans,

We've had a vote and you are all hereby banned from making changes to any model of vehicle designed in Great Britain,...

So I suppose my Triumph GT6 with a Chevy small-block is not going to be looked on favorably by Her Majesty?
 

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Bronson, congrats on the car, glad it came through. Have you watched the show "Shipping Wars"? Don't tie it down like those knuckle heads do,although the girl from Alabama would be ok to have her ship it for you. Enjoy the road trip, If your going through Austin on the way over (Mississippi?) you have a place to stay for a cold one.
 

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Tie down suggestions for transporting?


make sure you get the car engine forward up to the front of the trailer. YOU ALWAYS tie down/ strap the car on the axles/suspension! if you tied it to the frame ect, it might be tight when you strap it down, but a big bump and the suspension on the car gets negative pressure on the strap and it unhooks itself! so hook it onto the A arm or the axle. make sure you got a good amount of down pressure on the tires. always hook up at least 2 straps front and back, and leave it in gear and set the parking brake.
 
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Thanks, everybody. I got some good tie-down advice over on the Brit Car Forum, just joined.
Nightrain, I am going via Dallas/Shreveport, but thanks for the offer!
The incoming hurricanes may delay My trip by a few days, unless i rush and try to beat the storm.:shocking:
 

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Good luck with the drive and the weather! Glad to hear you got some good advice from the BCF and the guys here. Having never trailered a Triumph, I learned something myself!
 

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So I suppose my Triumph GT6 with a Chevy small-block is not going to be looked on favorably by Her Majesty?

Dear America,

We have heard the appeal of your citizen, sublimate, and have decided that the Total Ban on altering British Motor vehicles shall be relaxed in the following manner,

You may replace the motor of such vehicles with any of your domestically produced V8 motors as you see fit, with the following exceptions:

Any Jaguar containing an XK120 derived motor, eg E-Type, XJ12, XJ6 etc.
Any Rover vehicle originally built with a V8 motor.
Any Rolls Royce or Bentley manufactured prior to the introduction of the Buick V8 as the standard Rolls Royce powerplant.
Any vehicle originally built with a "Coventry Climax" motor.

We would also like to apologize for overlooking your contribution to the following vehicles:

AC Cobra 427, 289 & 305
Sunbeam Tiger

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Wow, never heard of Icon colors. For me, an icon color is the color of the best car I could find. Plus, for Triumphs, it is all about era. Magenta, which I like, is a great early to mid-'70s color, but you won't see that on earlier or later cars so unless you go by model change, icon colors make no sense. Red with tan interior looks pretty iconic to me.

Also, that Magenta Spit has the chrome bumpers blacked out.

As noted in the post, the Triumphs are broken down to individual models, whilst most other Marques have a more generic Iconic colour. Iconic Marque colours rarely change, for instance, Audi & Mercedes have always been silver, Ferrari always Scarlet. Triumph seems to have been an exception.

As for the black bumpers, This was the best photo I could find to show off that awesome Magenta. There's a few things that don't look quite "right" about this spit, one of which is that whilst it appears to be a 1500, the licence plate colour is only legal for a Mk4 or earlier, and it has a year letter G which would also indicate a Mk4, but the spoiler says 1500, as do the Turn Signals. Also the windshield rubbers should have chrome inserts no matter what year, and the Wipers should not be colour matched.
 
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