Ugh, Grainger and their disposable Dayton tools

[Gmonkee]

Chances are with current ideas all that scrap will stay in the European and Asain markets.

You will export scrap and they will sell new goods made with low price raw materials to the rest of the world as you look at domestic made stuff at the big box stores that are made to 'international' designs. And it will be made with homegrown labor
for thte most part.
And may or may not be inferior to what everybody else gets.

Time will tell, I cannot guess really. But I have an idea of how the cycles of costs and demand works.

It will be interesting in the least.

 

[67King]

Not at all. As someone pointed out use is a value too. We didn't use it, no one wanted to pay for it, no parts we wanted from it, = no value. It was a liability.
I have several pieces that are worth 100 scrap and are decades old, they have a use and have to have them. Just spent a day fixing one, didn't improve its market value at all. We need the thing and it saves hundreds in labor.

I guess I fail to see how your situation was sequitur to the OP's. The only way I could see it was the assertion that old stuff was junk because in your case, it was. I have a Dual 1019 turntable that is older than me (I'm 43), but have donated thousands of dollars worth of stereo equipment to Goodwill in the past few years. My dad had no use for the turntable, but I'd rather buy a new cartridge for it than buy a new one, because I think I'll have a better unit for less money than buying new.

But anyway. OP seems to be on his way to having a nice toll for pennies on the dollar with a bit of sweat equity.

 

[Cope]

My, my seems good Doctor that you were projecting that compulsive hoarder label.
Who would have guessed.



So long as we analyzing posters, lets start with you.
You have an very high post count, 22K and judging by this thread really have nothing of consequence, or depth to say.
Certainly no knowledge relevant to the topic. Compressor repair, design or even a grasp of basic economics, our economy, and the artificial and manipulated conditions in operates in,,, temporarily.

I don't care to look, but I would surmise that few to none of your 22 thousand posts contain any photos or descriptions of any GARAGE projects you are actually working on or completed.

In short you are just a guy prattling on your opinion about things you know little to nothing about.
Which is OK, everybody needs a hobby.

But I have more productive hobbies and won't be feeding yours.
This is my way of saying I won't be responding to any more of your silly posts.

I agree that Cary sometimes posts nothing of value, but his family runs strawberry farms in Michigan, and he keeps all of equipment and vehicles running. His "shop" is larger than most here, and pretty well equipped. In addition, he is a pretty fair weldor and electrician.

 

[DenisG]

Probably moot, but here's something about making an air compressor reed valve when a replacement cannot be easily found:
http://www.about-air-compressors.com/make-your-own-compressor-reed-valve.html

 

[sberry]

Actually I am a career welder and did apprenticeship in Ironworkers. I kind of ended up drafted in to family biz. I had intended on retiring from farming and going back to trade work about 7 or 8 years ago but stuff got in the way. If I could leave would consider it now. I should have been pipelining along the way but thought I might be able to coast, not sure that will be the case. I really dont feel like running a regular welding biz at this point.

 

[bigredjeepone]

This is a joke right . . . you are upset because a company can't support a 40 year old machine. Most Japanese items manufactured 40 years ago were intended to be disposable.

This is not a car or a motorcycle with a following in which it makes economic sense to produce parts 60 years later. Its a compressor and you may very well be the only guy who has tried to find parts in the last 5 years or even 10.

With more research and creativity you could probably get it going again.

 

[Gmonkee]

The guy is a hobby machinist with a well stocked shop.
He could just fix it with a shop made part but chose to decry the state of the world instead.

He has other frankenstiened compressors already that he did fix.

I could have faked a reed valve to make it work with just some scrounging and my bucket-0-tools in the upstairs closet.
But then I don't need a compressor as my hand pumps see infrequent use.

Its the principal of the affair, not the stark reality of it all.
Don Quiote syndrome all over again.

 

[DougWil]

This is a joke right . . . you are upset because a company can't support a 40 year old machine. Most Japanese items manufactured 40 years ago were intended to be disposable.

This is not a car or a motorcycle with a following in which it makes economic sense to produce parts 60 years later. Its a compressor and you may very well be the only guy who has tried to find parts in the last 5 years or even 10.

With more research and creativity you could probably get it going again.

Who said anything about being upset?


I think it is just economically and environmentally wasteful to make disposable tools.

Lots of other companies are still making parts for far older machines and compressor pumps.
My Wells 8 horizontal bandsaw is over 70 years old and parts are still available. It will probably be still running in another 70 years.

And if you had read the thread, others are also looking for parts, and yes I could fab up what was needed, make gaskets and all that. That was already explained.
And if you had read the thread, the same compressor is still being made.
Whaaaaaaattt?? Yes, if may come as a shock but a couple of pistons going up and down, valves, in an air compressor, really haven't changed, much if any in 40 years.

Instead I 'researched' enough, never received a reply from the manufacturer, scrapped it and it is probably half way to China by now.

 

[whitemamba]

you ever get parts for this or toss it? I have one that is a BT55C/Dayton and have a busted pulley. I got ahold of meiji and even though its still in their catalog they claimed they never exported it and then I sent them a picture and then they said it was too old for parts... nevermind I see you said you scrapped it.