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Understanding 4 way switches

dogdog

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thats a fools errand....
A 3 way or 4 way switch can be used as a standard on/off switch ( as a regular switch on the circuit) , just waste of money and cost.

3 way as regular switch if he used that dark screw and either one of the traveler screw to switch only the hot with like a regular switch.

4 way switch is same except he uses 1 of the two from one end and one of the two from the other end . As on/off only regular switch. Switch wise it will absolutely work. Dunno why you wanted to.
 
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A 3 way or 4 way switch can be used as a standard on/off switch ( as a regular switch on the circuit) , just waste of money and cost.

3 way as regular switch if he used that dark screw and either one of the traveler screw to switch only the hot with like a regular switch.

4 way switch is same except he uses 1 of the two from one end and one of the two from the other end . As on/off only regular switch. Switch wise it will absolutely work. Dunno why you wanted to.
huh? he wants to power a receptacle from a 4-way not set it up as a regular STSP switch... try reading the thread again
 

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huh? he wants to power a receptacle from a 4-way not set it up as a regular STSP switch... try reading the thread again
No body reads, yea if that is the case he is special probably uses the ground as neutral only way it will work.
 

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I am trying to power a plug off a light switch. I hooked the white wire from the plug to the white wires in the box and was attempting to used the line part of the 4 way switch to pass electricity to the plug

Nobody reads, yea if that is the case he is special probably uses the ground as neutral only way it will work.
well i copied his post, above..... read it again...
 

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No body reads, yea if that is the case he is special probably uses the ground as neutral only way it will work.
He probably has the neutrals spliced in the box and is trying to use a traveller for a hot. And if he did manage to make the receptacle work without taking out the lights, it would quit as soon as any one of the switches got flipped.
 
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He probably has the neutrals spliced in the box and is trying to use a traveller for a hot. And if he did manage to make the receptacle work without taking out the lights, it would quit as soon as any one of the switches got flipped.
I am trying to pass the current through the line. When I check for on one side of the line it is hot. When I check on the other side of the line it is not hot. Is my assumption the on a 4 way switch the line (black screws) should pass the current from one side of the switch to the other regardless of the position of the switch?
 

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It's not passing through. To put it in simplified terms, the switched wire is passing through, but every time a switch gets flipped that wire changes. Say it's the red wire now, flip a switch and it will change to the black. You will not, I repeat not, be able to add a receptacle from a four way switch, and it's only roughly 1/2 of the three ways that can have something added from them. And, if you (or anyone) messes around with it too much the lights will either quit altogether or if too many wires are spliced at the four way, they may not shut off.
So you are saying the the line is not passing hot straight through and I should use a three way switch instead. Will the three way switch have the ability to pass unswitched current strain through regardless of the position of the switch?
Sorry if I asked the question multiple times. I did not see all the responses and no i am not a troll.
 
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So you are saying the the line is not passing hot straight through and I should use a three way switch instead. Will the three way switch have the ability to pass unswitched current strain through regardless of the position of the switch?
Sorry if I asked the question multiple times. I did not see all the responses and no i am not a troll.
No no no

None of what youre trying to do will work

Just stop now

Weve tried telling you this over snd over…

*facepalm*
 

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So you are saying the the line is not passing hot straight through and I should use a three way switch instead. Will the three way switch have the ability to pass unswitched current strain through regardless of the position of the switch?
Sorry if I asked the question multiple times. I did not see all the responses and no i am not a troll.
If you are asking if a switch has 2 terminals (screws) with are permanently connected together like the pair of brass or pair of silver screws on a receptacle do, the answer is no. Never.

A single pole switch for example, has 2 terminals. In one position of the handle the terminals are connected together. In the other position of the handle, they are not. There is no passing of the hot straight through.

A 3 way has a black terminal. It is connected to ONE of the silver screws. Flip the switch and the black is now connected to the OTHER silver terminal.

A 4 way does that function twice. Black to black and silver to silver in one position and black to silver in the other position.

In any case, if you have a properly wired 4 way switch, you will not be able to power a receptacle directly from it.
 

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So you are saying the the line is not passing hot straight through
That's exactly what I am saying. A four way switch is really nothing more than a fancy splice in the travellers for a pair of three ways, there is no line even if your glow pen lights
and I should use a three way switch instead. Will the three way switch have the ability to pass unswitched current strain through regardless of the position of the switch?
Sorry if I asked the question multiple times. I did not see all the responses and no i am not a troll.
As far as using a three way, if there is a neutral there, you can use one of, but not either of the three ways. One of the three ways will have the hot, the other will have the switch leg, you can use the one with the hot, but there has to be a neutral there as well. If there are two white wires spliced in the back of the box, you will have the neutral, you just need to figure out which of the three ways has the hot wire and just because a glow pen lights up, doesn't mean it's the hot end.
 

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Try using Lutron Caserta smart switches and let the wireless transmitter switches do the work of a three, 4, or 5 way.
Cost a bit more but you don't have to deal with traveler wires. And the batteries last years and you have dimming control too.
Add an internet wifi controller and you can control your lights, etc using your smart phone.
 
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