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Used Snap On box check lein/ownership

JamesBill

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I will go check out a used SO box tomorrow and was wondering how can I check to see if it was fully paid for.

Would it be considered stolen or just out of warranty or what?
 
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RKA

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I'll save you the trouble. No. I went through this recently and tried my very best. Frankly, it wasn't worth the effort because any information I got was full of holes and there was no way to tie the box to anything on paper.

1. Snap on credit won't share information about a credit account unless you are the account holder. The seller could request a statement showing their account is paid up.

2. Snap on credit account will not show what the credit was used to purchase, serial numbers or anything else that would help you determine the box relates to that credit account. Snap on credit told me they do not record serial numbers on boxes that are searchable in any way. From the statement I've seen, it's just a running balance showing dates, balances, payments, etc.

3. If the box wasn't financed through snap on credit (truck account), I think you'll have a hard time as well. The seller could contact the driver and ask him to print something. Even if they could, odds are good it's just a running balances of all tools purchased. I really don't know about this scenario, and most boxes aren't really financed on a truck account.
 

86k10

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Does it really matter if it has a lien on it? I am not talking morally but if you bought one from a pawn shop or CL what is the deal?

I remember when I bought my KRL761 from a pawn shop my SO guy jokingly said "I should run those numbers" but I don't think he did when I wasn't there. I told him jokingly "Hey, I bought it legit from a business".

What is the repercussions.
 

Ken81590

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The only way to figure that out is to talk to the guy's actual snap-on dealer guy. He is the only one that would have that information, they aren't linked in a system where there are records.
 
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86k10

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It's not like the box has a title or registration that goes along with it.

It does have a serial number specific to that box. But other that a SO dealer or employee actually looking at your box, I don't know if it would ever be an issue.
 

Pro-Painter

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Possession of stolen property is a crime.

Its not stolen.... The loan is default and has nothing to do with the new owner.

It's the responsibly of the person in default of the loan, and the lien holder to seek compensation. The only possible criminal charges would be against the original owner for failure to return leased/rental propriety. The new buyer would have purchased the box in good faith and would have no responsibility what so ever to report it, or give the box back.


Snap-on has you guys duked into believing that they can do anything to get their money or tools back.


Snap-on credit is just like all the millions of rent-to-own places. Unlike credit cards, they do have secured interest in the property, however if said property is sold, stolen or destroyed then they loose all interest in the property and have to seek judgment from the original owner. 9/10 it results in charges of failure to return rental property, and a default judgment against the original owner.

Until their is a state issued title on tool boxes, it is not a crime to purchase one, or own one that is in default on the loan. However it is to sell one.
 

burlybrute

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You can call the tool truck guys in his area and drop his name. If he owes money on it and you tell them he is sellin it he is prolly gonna call the guy, especially if he owes money and is behind on payments.
 

Toolman12

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If you bought it fair and square and it turns out to be stolen then the person that sold it to you is responsible for the charges only you lose the property and the money you paid. ***** but that's the way it is so the morel of the story don't go looking for problems you just might find them. Buy it clean it put it in your garage and enjoy it Just my two cents worth
 

jimindm

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Tool boxes, scan tools, welders, compressors, are all high dollar stuff. If it is a name brand that can only be bought off a truck, it is something anyone should think about.

My opinion is that snapon credit does not do enough to try to collect on past due accounts. They pretty much leave it up to dealers to collect in good standing or repo in bad.

I have bought several boxes at auction, pawn shops, etc. The one thing I do is get a receipt, photocopy it, and leave a copy in the box. I would not buy one from just any joe blo off the street.

I may not be able to keep the box, but I would have a paper trail to show where I got it from. Law enforcement would be involved before the dealer would be allowed to take it.

Anybody that has ever been on a tool truck has seen stuff that has been repoed for sale. You buy an impact for $600, and make six payments, they repo what you owe. If the impact is not worth what is owed, they just keep taking untill they get the owed amount. Same as a car or house.

Not to long ago my tool trucks had me start signing the bottom of any invoice that I bought something. I am sure it has something to do with collections if it were to come to that.
 
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