Value $$ of this Waterloo Box

[iagsxr]

What are these going for? It appears in good shape, home owner grade.
Online auction

As mentioned, the lower drawer in the top has an issue. My bet is the spot welds that hold the formed piece the slide attaches to have broken off the drawer. I had a plain-slide Craftsman box do that once years ago. I welded it back together, but it didn't work as well as it did before it broke, which wasn't good to start with by today's standards.

If you had a place to stick it to store seldom used tools $25-50 sounds about right. I wouldn't let someone give it to me.

Just a side note about what I know about Waterloo boxes: IIRC I was in college in early 90s and living in Waterloo when Waterloo boxes completely quit being built there. At that time they private labelled for almost everyone. Their boxes spanned everything from homeowner to pro-grade. I have a customer who still has a 72" Waterloo top and bottom from I'd guess from right at the end of their domestic production. It's as nice as anything you could buy at that time. My brother still has an 80s Mac box that was built by Waterloo. I guess my point is there are some nice Waterloo-branded boxes out there.

 

[four.cycle]

Your Craftsman boxes would bring less if badged, Waterloo or one of the other brands they built toolboxes for.

Got it. @Fedwrench mentioned somewhere (not sure if it was in this thread) that Craftsman - as Craftsman - still inexplicably commands higher dollar sales numbers than the same item NOT branded Craftsman..

I just noticed this 1975 silver and red "top box" in a CL listing for $125.00 - it's been up for three months.
I have that exact same (okay, almost the same) box sitting on a table in my kitchen. Mine is WAY cleaner, and I've got keys!

So... I should not be able to expect to get a C-note out of this one?
(Might be worth noting that Lake Goodwin, Washington is kind of out in the weeds.)

 

[four.cycle]

Okay, so as long as I've got the camera out, help me out here guys... is this red Craftsman top box also a Waterloo?
Higher or lower quality than the silver and red one above?
I THINK this red one might be the one with the wonky drawer, but it's kind of buried.
I don't believe I have the keys for this one... I'd have to go out and move some stuff around... but this entire pile needs to go, because it's in the way of getting to the garage door spring that I need to replace.

 

[Cruzan80]

They grey/red would probably be about $100-125, especially with the keys. Hell, some of us would probably send some $$ your way to do a 1-to-1 swap with our existing locks (assuming the keys were actual crown top, not replacements).

The second top box is a bit harder to tell. I "think" it is a mid-range box, not as cheap as the roller mentioned above, but not pro grade. Harder to tell as Waterloo started using very similar trim on multiple ranges of boxes.

The other way to tell "generally" is when it was built. The date stamp should be in the front left, when looking down with the top open. The rollers are stamped in the bottom right, on the front (below the lowest door).

 

[four.cycle]

^ The red one buried in the garage is definitely a bit more stout than that 3-piece stack.
I'll go drag it out. Damn garage door spring is broken, so I need to get that entire pile out of the way just to get to it.
Maybe I'll sell a pressure washer while I'm at it... thing's been out there for 10 years, sat in a different garage for 10 years previous to that. No idea if it will even fire up, let alone move water.
We just had a conversation yesterday about the house.
Apparently they can put TWO ADUs (auxiliary dwelling units) in my back yard (I had previously thought there was only space for ONE, but my neighbor tells me he's already looked into it and he can put THREE in his back yard.
Time to move. It's all going on the block.

I need to pull all of them out and figure out which one has the wonky drawer.
The longer this thread goes on, the easier it's becoming for me to decide to unload all of these.
I've got a nice "U.S. General" out in the living room that will probably work just dandy.
Not sure what I was thinking.

 

[NUTTSGT]

What are these going for? It appears in good shape, home owner grade.
Online auction

I wouldn't even entertain putting a bid on that unit except for one reason. A family member needing a very first box.

 

[rust in the eye]

@ O.P.
Any results for that auction?
I think we scared you off the red ones but that Husky had potential.
By the way (BTW for the youngsters) those saggy drawers could be ones that were not put back correctly on the slides. Some folks seem to struggle with R&R the slides.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

@ O.P.
Any results for that auction?
I think we scared you off the red ones but that Husky had potential.
By the way (BTW for the youngsters) those saggy drawers could be ones that were not put back correctly on the slides. Some folks seem to struggle with R&R the slides.

The auction is slated for this Tuesday. At the moment the Waterloo’s bid is $60 and the Husky is at $160.

 

[hailwood1965]

Why are so many of these old message boards having members ask me for my location? I got the same thing on an Italian motorcycle message board and a Volvo car message board in the recent past. In today's world the less information you have on the internet the better.

 

[Cruzan80]

Almost like used sales for things like toolboxes may be heavily impacted by region...

If you don't want to share, nobody is forcing you. But listing a rough area (such as Denver, CO) doesn't really give anyone serious info about you. If people are unscrupulous, there is much more targeted info than just posting your location on a message board.

 

[four.cycle]

Why are so many of these old message boards having members ask me for my location?

If you're out in the middle of nowhere, you're going to hard pressed to get top dollar for any item, simply because of logistics. Either your buyer is going to have to burn a lot of gas, or pay a lot of shipping cost.
It costs more money to live in a big city. Completely different demographics. Broader customer base.
I should expect to get more for the same item than the OP, who lives in Saskatchewan.
That expectation may or may not be connected to reality.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

It is time for supper so just a quick update. At this time the Waterloo $70. The Husky $210. Tomorrow around 9am the fun is over.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

What are these going for? It appears in good shape, home owner grade.
Online auction

I don't know I'd buy this for $30. I guess if I had to have a box. Not much better than All Trade IMO

$250 to go fast. $500-ish if you can deal with lowballers and "is this still available?" Im unsure of the brand. But the size of the box alone im seeing everywhere for no less than $500. Just based off of the amount of drawers. Nice set up though. Shouldn't have trouble selling it. It may be worth more. In my area down south US. Im seeing these sizes for 500 to 600.

You have to be shitting us. No way on this earth. There's a decent older Snap On top box nearby that is 100X better quality and has been sitting for awhile at $150.

this one has lingered and lingered

Tool chest-Craftsman - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Craftsman 5 drawer roll away 2 drawer intermediate 8 drawer top Side shelf Drawer insert Normal use. Some rust on the shelf.

chicago.craigslist.org

This late 60's/early 70's one has been listed for a month, if it were in my backyard I'd own it, these were well built(make the ones we are discussing look like a booger) and if you can live with friction slides will serve well;

That's priced pretty high IMO

Craftsman 12-Drawer Red Steel Tool Chest Box Model 65258 - 26" x 12" x - tools - by owner - sale - craigslist

Nice tool box that pairs well with a lower chest, or great to use alone. No key. 26" x 12" x 19"

detroit.craigslist.org

Note the 10X price difference for similar boxes

I'd buy that top chest for $80 all day every day. Not far from where I grew up.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

Lots of opinions, lots of input Thanks everyone. I just checked the auction as I’m interested in another listing and the price is now at $70 & $210.
I actually forgot I had purchased an International box for my Grandson. It is still in my lake garage as his Dad said he didn’t have room for it and since my garage is not far from them it is still here.
This is the International does it look familiar?

I looked back and found I’d paid $45 not including auction fees and any applicable taxes.
At home I have 3 roller boxes all just bases as I find counter room for me is always at a premium. 2 smaller Blue Westward (sale new $100 each) and a Black Husky 42” ($4-500 can’t remember) and my NewAge Pro drawer cabinet.

 

[four.cycle]

@Miss the Pontiacs -
I'm not done here.
Called my buddy and talked with him for about half an hour earlier.
I have to repair my garage door.
I have tool boxes in the way which are preventing me from getting at that part I need to repair.
"Oh we can just move those out of the way while we fix it," he said.
"That would require moving them twice," I pointed out.
I will be dragging them out in back (as time allows) and getting them all listed on CL and ebay within the next week or so (hopefully before I have to leave for Sequim again) and will post updates.
Maybe we can get some kind of handle on what these things are actually selling for. But again, I think geographic location is a huge factor.
After the conversation with the neighbor the other day about the number of allowable ADU's in my back yard, it's "cut and run" time here.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

@Miss the Pontiacs -
I'm not done here.
Called my buddy and talked with him for about half an hour earlier.
I have to repair my garage door.
I have tool boxes in the way which are preventing me from getting at that part I need to repair.
"Oh we can just move those out of the way while we fix it," he said.
"That would require moving them twice," I pointed out.
I will be dragging them out in back (as time allows) and getting them all listed on CL and ebay within the next week or so (hopefully before I have to leave for Sequim again) and will post updates.
Maybe we can get some kind of handle on what these things are actually selling for. But again, I think geographic location is a huge factor.
After the conversation with the neighbor the other day about the number of allowable ADU's in my back yard, it's "cut and run" time here.

Okay you just keep going. I was going to deal with you on your predicament but kind of burnt out from the days goings on.
I have to pare down as well. I started taking bits and pieces to the auction house I buy **** from. Kind of a never ending circle thing. From another auctioneer I buy certain lots of item generally the everything on this shelf, pallet going at one time. I generally want a certain item but get the whole pile. I have been relatively lucky the lot goes for say $200 and I’ll keep the item I want and can easily double or triple my investment by selling individual items on line. When I get the over burden and take them to another auction that does small lots. When I sell on line I price it to move unless no one else has that particular type of item.
You may have something about geographic location. But Sask guys are very likely farm boys and used to doing their own thing. Gets me thinking of a guy I went to school with. His shop is SnapOn but since he is a farmer/rancher and has 2 sons and their families on adjacent pieces of land their tool collection is absolutely nuts. Both sons have mechanical backgrounds and one has a 6000 sq ft shop and does a lot of farm repair, even has a guy working for him. Between the 3 of them they probably have 9-10 pickups for various jobs, 4 semis, multitude of tractors, combines etc.
Guarantee you that there are tools and boxes on pretty well all trucks and some in the farm equipment as well.
If I’d asked him about the Waterloo he probably would have just laughed.
About your foot repair, I had a problem at the lake. The local guy 20 minutes away wanted close to double $1400 for the fix. I got my guy from the city 1 1/2 hours away charged me just over half $800. And they actually made 2 trips as the first guy was not up to the task.
When I get back from the lake there is a young guy still in highschool that I sold a wheeled jack. Phoned me and said he was still taking shop mechanics at school and wondered if I had some additional mechanical tools. Told him I’d be back from the lake midweek and give me a call then. Meanwhile I’m kind of thinking of what I could help him out with.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

@four.cycle Okay I guess the ZZZZ’s can wait. We call ADUs here MIL suites. Now my MIL would have been fine but the wife’s would have been a hell no. I looked into building one as the guy with the expertise was a good friend of my exSIL. I didn’t want any services beside power and gas ran out of my home so sewer and water would have to be brought in from the front street.
The way our home takes over the major width of the lot and these services would have cost me way too much. Besides that would have definitely screwed up my backyard garage build. So we didn’t proceed, but the revenue would have definitely been a positive.
So where would you run to?

 

[mike93lx]

I just revised the ad $300 OBO went up 4 hours ago no bites yet.
I have more of these I'm thinking of dumping as well. Can't even walk through the garage any more, let alone get the door opened.

$300 is the lowered price?

And the only way to contact is making a phone call?


I'd drop that price a lot and start using email or texts. Feels like you don't want the space back in your garage

 

[four.cycle]

And the only way to contact is making a phone call?

On Craigslist, yes. Phone only. CL emailers are time-wasters 99% of the time - I just ignore the emails. (I've been peddling stuff on CL now for about 20 years.)
No cell phone, so no texts.
I will likely drop the price in the CL ad Friday.
The ebay ad I may just leave as is to see what happens, OR alternatively break up the set and start all over.
Haven't gotten to the others yet, and the forecast is for two days of rain, so nothing is going to happen for the next couple days.
Just because an item doesn't sell within 48 hours doesn't necessarily mean you've set the price too high - my ebay sales prove that with every transaction.

 

[four.cycle]

So where would you run to?

Really doesn't matter, to be quite honest, but I will need to empty the house first.
Property taxes and insurance here have just gotten nutty because of the real estate values - the area became "gentrified" after the development of "Point Ruston" down at the bottom of the hill - brought in a demographic that doesn't blink at $8 a loaf bread.

 

[Miss the Pontiacs]

The Waterloo went for $85, the Husky for $350 not including any auction fees or applicable taxes.
@four.cycle Are you done now?

 

[four.cycle]

Nope. No bites on that 3-piece set yet. I will revise both the CL and ebay listings on Friday, by which time I hope to get at least one or two more up and listed.
Probably break up the "set" and peddle those three pieces off individually.
Looking at the local listings, some have been up for over a month, with asking prices that seem reasonable to me, so I'm rather puzzled as to why they're not moving, when that two-piece set sold last week in a matter of hours for over $200. (Late Craftsman all-black top and bottom.)

Not easy to try to second-guess prospective buyers.

 

[four.cycle]

the Husky for $350

^ this is a reason why none of this is making sense to me. what makes that Husky set so valuable?

 

[mikedodge]

The Waterloo went for $85, the Husky for $350 not including any auction fees or applicable taxes.
@four.cycle Are you done now?

I was spot on. Especially the Husky. Which I figured was the very high side of it.

 

[mikedodge]

^ this is a reason why none of this is making sense to me. what makes that Husky set so valuable?

I'm pretty sure he's using Canadian prices so thats like $250ish. Which to me is still high for what thst is but a bit more realistic.

 

[four.cycle]

okay... even factoring in the exchange rate, what is it about that Husky box that commands a higher price?

 

[rust in the eye]

The Husky is simply a better box (ball bearing drawer slides to begin with) looks in better condition and has a nice aesthetic.
At $255 usd no harm done

 

[mikedodge]

Noting for that specific set of boxes, in general quite often people seem to over price used tool boxes and that stack is better quality then some.

 

[four.cycle]

(ball bearing drawer slides to begin with)

Hard to tell when you're just looking at a photograph of a bunch of drawer faces.
Guess I need to drag these things all out and check out differences among them.
The longer this thread goes on, the more I'm thinking I should just unload the entire lot and stick with the HF unit.

 

[four.cycle]

supposed to meet buyer at noon.
will keep you posted.
dragged another one out of the garage, but it's pouring down rain today so it will have to wait for a bath.
I found a nice dresser out there in that pile of **** that's blocking my path to the garage door spring. Maybe I'll put it up on the block too.

 

[Cruzan80]

Hard to tell when you're just looking at a photograph of a bunch of drawer faces.

Almost like I mentioned that before...

The biggest "issue" is that Waterloo made multiple levels of boxes. Without knowing exactly which level you have, is what leads to the wildly different pricing. Some of the ones posted are decent, others are flimsy as hell and wobble shutting when empty.

 

[four.cycle]

$300 on the three-piece stack. He didn't even mention the "OBO" part. Go figure.
Working on another one right now. From the "706" number, apparently another Waterloo made box. One of the drawers is wonky.
I'll fix it when I get back from Seattle. Supposed to dry out tomorrow. I'll give it a bath and see what I can get out of it...

 

[mike93lx]

$300 on the three-piece stack. He didn't even mention the "OBO" part. Go figure.
Working on another one right now. From the "706" number, apparently another Waterloo made box. One of the drawers is wonky.
I'll fix it when I get back from Seattle. Supposed to dry out tomorrow. I'll give it a bath and see what I can get out of it...

Why do the bills all have the same serial number?

 

[i84x]

I just can't deal with "will you take less" for 2 weeks on FB messenger. I just post what im selling for 25 percent cheaper than everyone else and handle my business quickly.

There have been plenty of things I have just given away or dumped at work in the communal tool cupboard because I just can't stand the people with ridiculous lowball offers, who have some ridiculous sob story or are obviously just trying to scam you.

 

[sparky 1971]

Nope. No bites on that 3-piece set yet. I will revise both the CL and ebay listings on Friday, by which time I hope to get at least one or two more up and listed.
Probably break up the "set" and peddle those three pieces off individually.
Looking at the local listings, some have been up for over a month, with asking prices that seem reasonable to me, so I'm rather puzzled as to why they're not moving, when that two-piece set sold last week in a matter of hours for over $200. (Late Craftsman all-black top and bottom.)

Not easy to try to second-guess prospective buyers.

That's easy. Everyone interested first checks with the collective brain trust at Garage Journal to see if it's a good deal, they are then convinced that the way to go is to buy a used truck box; after all, those are available everywhere for pennies on the dollar.

 

[four.cycle]

^ Honestly, it makes no sense at all, considering today's events.
Stay tuned. I'm fixing one right now, and will clean it up tomorrow and get it up on the block and see what happens.
Just as soon get rid of them as play Tetris in the garage in order to get the door fixed.

 

[Etchase]

Not a lot of mid boxes available new these days. They sure improve storage space per square foot. I think they sell at a premium, even the light weight ones. I’ve personal never heard of a tool box collapsing, but I’ve heard them squeak.

 

[rust in the eye]

$300 on the three-piece stack. He didn't even mention the "OBO" part. Go figure.

SHAZAM!
congrats

 

[Red Tractors]

Anytime you see a box with the straps slots to secure the drawers in the front you are in the super low end territory.

I've had them, they bend and fail. Might be ok for a home owner on a cull de sac.

No shame in owning one, but I would not spend money on it.

 

[hailwood1965]

Clearly I need to update my notifications for this forum so I don't get a link to come back and visit a circle jerk between a guy with too many boxes by his garage door and a guy with too many boxes in his kitchen.