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hoopty388

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QUOTE=Grumpy365;1213245]I recognized the hermetic compressor immediately. Do you have a build thread on one of those.

I understand a compressor is just a pump, but i don't get how the internals get lubricated without having oil being distributed through refrigerant.

How much air are they pumping?[/QUOTE]

here is a build up from one of my model sites

http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial/28
 
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Zrexxer

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I recently purchased an old compressor at an auction. It is a two stage compressor on a horizontal 60 gal tank. There is a plate on the tank but I cannot find a name of any kind on the compressor. The pump is unusual in that the cylinders and the head are cast together. While I don't know much about compressors, I have been unable to find one like it on the internet or even one with the clinders and the head made from one casting.
I believe you'll find that's a Champion pump.
 

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I recently bought this vintage Quincy pump and GE motor on a small tank compressor.
It is a model 216 Quincy.

I plan to put them on a late-model IR upright tank that I already have.

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Heres my refurbished CAT, its a 67 325 quincy, powdercoat compliments of local cat supply shop!!
 

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B17E1943

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I picked up this Scaife & Sons (Oakmont, PA) 1938 compressor over the weekend along with the Craftsman toolboxes in my first thread.

I can't find much info on this company; anyone know anything?

The guy claimed he had it running, but I haven't even taken it out of my truck yet. It weighs a ton.

A friend who knows compressors says it's not worth messing with, so I was considering flipping it, if anyone would even want it. Upon further review, I think it would be kind of cool to keep for my yet-to-be-built garage :(, since I like neat old stuff.

Thoughts?
 

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swvega

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I just replaced my oldest compressor a 1947 curtis and updated the newer of the two a 1980 speedair 5 hp 2 stage with a china built pump. You can sure tell the difference between the old usa built pumps and the china copies. Even after 30 yrs the old one was queit just needed rebuilt. the china pump is way louder. Almost as bad as the old one and it was 70 years old.[ China ]Stands for[ **** hauled into north america.]
 
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Haunt Rod

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I picked up this Scaife & Sons (Oakmont, PA) 1938 compressor over the weekend along with the Craftsman toolboxes in my first thread.

I can't find much info on this company; anyone know anything?

The guy claimed he had it running, but I haven't even taken it out of my truck yet. It weighs a ton.

A friend who knows compressors says it's not worth messing with, so I was considering flipping it, if anyone would even want it. Upon further review, I think it would be kind of cool to keep for my yet-to-be-built garage :(, since I like neat old stuff.

Thoughts?

Hey Man, if you like old neat stuff, make it work. I just found a 1951 Scaife on CL, just finished hooking it up, and it is sweet. I bought it out of a shop that was upgrading, but it had a tag that said the oil was changed about a year ago...good sign I think. Now, I am upgrading from a 30 gallon DeWalt that is portable, so I am easy to impress right now, but I think it is cool. They dont build em like that anymore, and it is super quiet...
 

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I have decided to keep it. Unfortunately, I broke the big pulley off getting it out of the truck. :(

I guess those aren't too hard to find :headscrat, but it'll have to go on the back-burner for a while.

Thanks. :)
 

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I don't have pictures of the one I bought used when I was 16, and hooked it up at my dad's homet . That was 1964 it was a home built unit that actually started out as an ammonia compressor. The intake was through the crankcase and the intake valve was in the top of each piston. Had a monster 2 horse 100 lb motor on it with a 60 gallon used tank. It was so old when I cleaned his house out I scrapped the tank and and compressor out as I though it was too old to re-certify and be safe to use.
 

Bubbax1

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I was just given a compressor with a 2HP Peerless motor, Large Scaife tank and a Binks 33-525 pump. It needs a fair amount of work, When I googled Binks 33-525 I found a website in Mexico that had an owners manual for it. Here is the link.
http://www.sistemasparapintar.com.mx/boletines/binks/1767r-2.pdf
Mine was working not to long ago so I hope to get it up and running soon- as soon as I get power into the almost completed shop!
Bob
 

B17E1943

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Thanks. I can't even find a model number or manufacturer name on the pump. :confused:

D614 is molded into both cylinders, and there are some random-looking numbers stamped in a flat area between the 2 cylinders. :confused:

And upon further review, it looks like instead of breaking the pulley, I broke the crank. :(
 

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Here is my Quincy 310 I picked up from a gas station turned cigarette store. It ran a two bay shop. Ran like a sewing machine. It has a 60gal tank, it was so heavy we had to take it apart to move it.
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Here's our Circa 1911-20s Garnder. Ran weekly like a champ till 2006. In process of a breakdown and rebuild. 8" dual piston, water cooled powered by a 20hp motor. Electric induction motor from Western electric runs flawless. If anyone interested in this nostalgic vintage Compressor please email me, it is for sale. [email protected] for more pics.

-Christopher

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bobee77

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Anyone know who might have made this compressor head?

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I recently aquired an older DeVilbiss compressor 1959. Looks to be a model 230 pump, a dayton 5hp motor 1740rpm, and mounted on a 60 maybe 80 gallon tank.

The pulley on the pump is 19" and the pulley on the motor is 5", which would put the pump at 483rpm. Is it safe to go with a larger motor pulley and bump up the compressor rpm a bit? 800rpm?

Does anyone have information on this compressor? CFM's the 230 pump is capable of, or bore and stroke information so I can calculate the cfm?



Thanks,
Jonathan Ross Gibbs
 

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Just a few of my old ones....
Got a lot more in the barn...
 

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jtmoran

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Oldie but a good compressor had a gas engine on it when I got it. I think it was from the army. Sorry pics to big
The flywheel and the air it moves is pushed across the pump and discharge tubes to aid in
cooling that hot discharge air. Looks like yours is closed in. Hard to tell. If so move that blockage.
Jim Moran
 
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Hey I just pick up an old air compressor. the only thing I can find on it is stamped on the side of the compressor, "The United States Air Compressor Compant, Cleveland, Oh. Serial number HA5903" Anyone have any information about this or know where I can find info on it? Thanks
 

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Hey I just pick up an old air compressor. the only thing I can find on it is stamped on the side of the compressor, "The United States Air Compressor Compant, Cleveland, Oh. Serial number HA5903" Anyone have any information about this or know where I can find info on it? Thanks


Go here, and all your questions will be answered.
 

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Anyone know who might have made this compressor head?

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Looks like a old fridge compressor.
 

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This is an old Gardner Denver that I bought from an old gas station that burnt down. Eventually I'll plumb it in.
 

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phinney

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I have a Gardner Denver left from the previous owner. I have no idea of its vintage but am sure it needs a tune up. It pumps up to about 35 psi then the motor starts to labor and pretty soon stops altogether while making that locked-up humming sound. It has yet to kick off via the pressure switch. Unfortunately, all of my internet searching has yielded nothing.
 

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gmein

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WOW! That is definately an old piece. Like some kind of ancient scuba gear !!

So, if that is the shop refridgerator on the right, then where is the rest of the air compressor on the left. I cannot see any plumbing parts, the plug is missing and what is the coffee can for?????

Sorry, Sorry, my mistake, I got it figured out now, the compressor is not in the picture, the can is for the white gas to run the Model A engine for the compressor.. and the overhead belt system for shop tools. A lot better than a water wheel.

You know I am just kidding, Great Great picture. Gmein
 

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On post #13 they asked if old tanks are safe.

A couple years ago I went through my State of MN Boiler and Pressure Vessel inspection and they found my 1948 tank to be too thin to be safely used.
(the pump and motor were replaced in the 1980's)

On all tanks there should be a minimum wall thickness. It was the bottom of an 80 gallon horizontal tank, mounted about 8' overhead on a loft. I would bet my life it was drained.... probably never :dunno:
 

Bryan Bridges

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Here's mine. Just got this for my school shop restoration project where I teach.
It's a Wayne, but I don't know much about it except it was too cool for school.... Is that a pun?
Anyway, I've posted a thread on helping to ID this thing.

Bryan in Salem
 

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bernietech

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hi, new here.

just acquired a Pelton air compressor. it is marked "Pelton Detroit USA" The pump is marked "1872E" and has a rubber end cap marked "Hubbard"

the motor is a GE 1/4 HP, 1725 rpm, type KH, 115 vac, 4.3 A, GEJ-435, 5KH-45AB55B.

Pressure switch is marked Square D 1500M12

the tank is mounted horizontally with the motor and pump mounted on a c-channel above the tank. the unit has 4 feet and the tank size is 10 " diameter and 19" long. It is painted flat black and appears to be original.

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any information is welcome.

bernie.
 

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Bryan Bridges

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I too am a sucker for old stuff. Just recently joined Garage Journal and have posted a couple of threads requesting assistance in IDing an old Wayne "Junior" compressor. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif In the process of restoring it, I was cleaning up the Wayne pressure gauge and noted on the back side of the face/reading dial was printed April 16 of 1923. The electric motor is patten dated 1914-1915. Any help on this old compressor would be greatly appreciated. I am restoring it in my school shop and have the tank stripped and primed/painted. Working on it a little each day with the kids.
 

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bernietech

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tore unit down today. #"66" or "99# stamped on top of the head. the belt is marked "pelton-model h". no other marking, anywhere. can't find anything on internet. changed the pump oil, used 30 wt ND.

bernie
 

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This little guy (2" bore, 3/4" stroke) was in forgotten in some old shed and has a hard time in retirement. The tin cap is very brittle and something fell on it, cracking it in several places. I just finished the IRAN and put a new set of work clothes on him. I love the '40s art deco styling. It had a neat zoomy-looking handle off the back but that pot-metal broke some time ago.

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This little guy (2" bore, 3/4" stroke) was in forgotten in some old shed and has a hard time in retirement. The tin cap is very brittle and something fell on it, cracking it in several places. I just finished the IRAN and put a new set of work clothes on him. I love the '40s art deco styling. It had a neat zoomy-looking handle off the back but that pot-metal broke some time ago.

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49T&C

Sorry but the nice air compressor did not catch my eye as much as the item in the back with the heat shield :thumbup: And the Jeeps too.

Nice "items" in the photo.


Joe Zeppe
 

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Hey Zeepe, The M1919 is waiting on a rear sight mount. I cannot fab up that piece. You know how it is - every horizontal piece in the shop becomes a shelf. The HF service cart was just pushed up against the MB. It was clear, so I put the compressor there for the pic.

49T&C
 

ianl

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Any help with info on this compressor is greatly appreciated. Or if you know where to get info.....Thanks

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Bryan Bridges

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Here is an update on the old Wayne I've been working on with my students. Almost done. She fires right up and is a bit slow. Took about 17-19 minutes to fill 30 gals to 150 psi.

Hope you like the work. I made an oak and steel wheel/pulley guard and mounted it to cover the belts. I'll take some photos of the finished product and post when it's all done.
 

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junkscouts

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Ok, if being scared to turn it on means its vintage then this one qualifies. I walked away the first time I plugged it in, but since then I’ve been using it in my garage mainly to blow out carbs when being rebuilt. It gets up to a little above 100 PSI but runs out of air fairly quickly if you use it for very long. Near as I can figure that’s an oxygen tank out of some 50’s (or so) military aircraft. Anyone know what model and year range the Copeland pump is? The story is this was used in a dentist’s office to run their tools. It is nice and quiet.

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ChadNC

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tore unit down today. #"66" or "99# stamped on top of the head. the belt is marked "pelton-model h". no other marking, anywhere. can't find anything on internet. changed the pump oil, used 30 wt ND.

bernie
Pelton made/makes a lot of dental equipment. I am not sure if they made their own compressors but I rewired one for a friend of neighbor about 15 yrs ago that looked similar to yours. A web search for Pelton dental equipment might yield some results.
FWIW,
Chad
 

bernietech

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thanks. I should contact Pelton and Crane. Where are you in NC? I have relatives in the Greensboro area.

to date, I have replaced the motor w a 1/2 hp, jumped around the pressure switch and it slowly raised the pressure to 60psi, the limit to my gauge. I took apart the intake air filter. 3 layers of about 1/4 " thick oiled felt, interlayer with an oiled paper. there is a washer reducing the size of the air flow from about 1 1/4 " to about 3/8".

I think the next step is to pull the head on the pump and take a look.

Thanks,

Bernie
 
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