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Ruger_556

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I've used that before... It *****. I fought it and I'm a very competent welder. I can't imagine trying to learn on it.
 

dragginbalz

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I've also used that at Fabtech a few years ago. I also was not impressed with it compared to "real" welding. The depth perception with the hood was weird.
 

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They have a real world version that transposes info onto your lens in real time.
 
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Squankum

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They have a real world version that transposes info onto your lens in real time.

Heh. But wire and gas and scrap metal are sooo expensive, compared to all this computery stuff!

In the long run? We're probably teaching the robots to weld. Another decent job down the crapper.

OK, I mean, weld well. I'm sure they're already welding. Heck, they've been doing it for decades on assembly lines, right? I mean, the tricky stuff.
 

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Heh. But wire and gas and scrap metal are sooo expensive, compared to all this computery stuff!

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actually I dont think it was for practicing with, It was to ensure the welding was being done correctly. You cant exactly cut apart a super structure to inspect the welds.
 
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gte718p

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actually I dont think it was for practicing with, It was to ensure the welding was being done correctly. You cant exactly cut apart a super structure to inspect the welds.

No but there are lots of ways to inspect a weld without cutting it apart. We have 100% weld testing on all critical welds. If you want to make some money on an easy (but stressful) job none destructive testing engineer is the way to go.
 

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No but there are lots of ways to inspect a weld without cutting it apart. We have 100% weld testing on all critical welds. If you want to make some money on an easy (but stressful) job none destructive testing engineer is the way to go.

Thats where I was going with it, using the weld equipment non destructive testing afterwards didnt need to be done.

Ill try to find a link on it, but I cant remember the name. It was interesting but like this I just couldnt understand why it was needed. Welders are certified and rigorously tested for a reason and the way I took it was this equipment was supposed to make anyone a pro.
 

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Personally I think it would be better to actually weld and learn versus virtual. There are other aspects that you learn from doing. Like... oh I can't rest my hand there because its to hot, or what is that burning hair smell? LOL The point is learning to weld and welding out of position will ultimately make you a better welder. Just my 2 cents on the subject.
 

gte718p

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Welders are certified and rigorously tested for a reason and the way I took it was this equipment was supposed to make anyone a pro.

10-20 percent of welds by "certified" welders fail NDT at Navy ship yards. Welders are human, they screw up, and in the ship yard most of them just don't give a F@C%. They have a strong union so it doesn't made how many bad welds they have. If they show up for work and don't pop on a piss test, you can't fire them.

Of course when NDT is audited they have a high screw up rate also. They are not union so they are much easier to fire. Unfortunately there are not enough of them in the world so they wind up being rehired by the shipyard or a sub contractor three months later.
 

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Will a virtual weld join 2 pieces of 3/8 plate? The whole idea seems pretty silly to me, no matter how 'real' they can make it look! Kind of like trying to get in shape by 'virtual jogging'!

Looks like an expensive welding video game to me and some creative marketing by Lincoln Electric.
 
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Will a virtual weld join 2 pieces of 3/8 plate? The whole idea seems pretty silly to me, no matter how 'real' they can make it look! Kind of like trying to get in shape by 'virtual jogging'!

Looks like an expensive welding video game to me and some creative marketing by Lincoln Electric.


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dr_clyde

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I tried this once, at FabTech. Huge waste of time. While neat, it isn't a very real representation of welding, primarily because of lack of feedback. You can't feel the wire push against the puddle, and the helmet is awkward and uncomfortable. There isn't any heat or sparks to prevent poor body positioning. It's kind of like driving a Ferrari in a video game. It's neat, but its nothing like the real thing.
 
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