Vise Info Thread

[Pap1431]

Pap: It's a Prentiss Jewelers' vise. This is a cut from an 1897 catalog.

Thank you!

 

[Pap1431]

Looks like it says Prentiss based on the visible "NT" in the stamp

Thank you!

 

[Pap1431]

Pap: It's a Prentiss Jewelers' vise. This is a cut from an 1897 catalog.

Thank you!

 

[Willy Wilson]

Mystery Vise #28
5” Jaws
60 ibs.

 

[CRSINMICH]

QuikWerk Tools Blacksmiths' Vises
WARREN TOOL & FORGE
1920 & 1921 ads​

 

[ViceRoy2030]

Wilton 820. 2" jaws that opens to 2" and weights 9 lbs. This one I restored several years ago.

Looks like these were made around the same time. Unrestored, no swivel base.
(I was born 6 months later)

 

[Snip's]

I just completed my 20 restore today...
Date May 1950, and I was born 10 months later...

Before




After...

 

[knipwim]

A Record 1 Ton. Already mentioned in postcount=347, just adding some missing info for the spreadsheet:

• weight: 7.5 kg / 16.5 pounds
  
• max opening: 6.5 cm / 2.5 inch

 

[KMScott]

Hoar''s #53 Offset vise. 3" jaws that weights 25 lbs.

 

[KMScott]

Milwaukee 864. 4" jaws that opens to 5" and weights 30 lbs.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Specs for Milwaukee Mechanics' Vises No's 863 - 865
from 1972 catalog​

 

[CRSINMICH]

HOAR'S COACHMAKERS' VISES
From 1870 catalog​

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Samson 5218. 3-1/2” jaws. Max opening 5”. 42Lbs

 

[skmbabon]

Woden 186B/3.
In spreadsheet, adding photos.

 

[CRSINMICH]

WODEN 186B Vices with and without swivel bases
From 1957 catalogue​

 

[skmbabon]

Yost No. 1 Universal Vise (Patternmaker's)
Canadian Yeates-Gordon Co. ~ National Machinery & Supply Co.
Hamilton, ON

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The Canadian Yeates-Gordon Co. was established in Hamilton around November 1910 sometime in 1911 by the parent company from Meadville, PA.

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Strangely I can't find any information about the Meadville operation. Not coincidentally, that is where GM Yost Co. built its new plant in 1908. Sept 29 of that year Yost was granted US Patent 899,779 for improvements to the Emmert vise (patent 457,710) - two years after Joseph Emmert died. Another connection - Gilmore Yost had been manager at Emmert Manufacturing Co. (and would go on to Columbian Hardware Co. in Cleveland, Ohio where he patented more vises).
By 1910 Yost was advertising its Universal Woodworkers Vise. The ad doesn't indicate that it was designated No. 1 or that the patent date was shown, but it may have been a simplified illustration.

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Crossing the border...

In May 15, 1909 Yost applied for an equivalent Canadian patent, granted Jun. 29, 1909: number 119,203.

Was the Canadian Yeates-Gordon Co. then established in 1910 specifically to manufacture the Yost No. 1?
I can't find anything on the backers of that company except the creation, also in 1911 in Hamilton, of the National Machinery & Supply Co.

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Incorporators included P. McC. Yeates, which gives us half the company name. Also of potential interest is one L. F. Stephens - in 1907 Yost had purchased the Snediker vise plant in Yonkers, NY, which also manufactured for the Stephens Patent Vise Co. But nothing so far to connect the person and company.

At any rate, in 1910 or soon thereafter the Canadian Yeates Gordon Co. produced the Yost No. 1 in Hamilton. Finally, vise pictures

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The patent hounds will notice that the casting indicates the US patent date, not the Canadian one.

Fast forward to Jan 2, 1913. National Machinery & Supply Co. is selling Yost machinist's vises, made in Canada. What happened to Yeates-Gordon?!

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28 days later the same publication answers that question.

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"The firm [National Machinery & Supply] was formerly known as the Canadian Yeates-Gordon Co."
However, since both firms were started in 1911 within 6 months of each other that raises additional questions about why the two companies had co-existed and what motivated the change.
Vise manufacturing companies seem to rarely have had a straight-forward existence!

National updated the casting, which means anyone with a Yeates-Gordon Yost No. 1 can confidently say it was made from 1910 to 1911 - or a bit later if they had inventory to clear out.

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Hmm, still the US patent date...

Another Canadian Machinery ad from July 1915 is identical to the 1913 machinist's vise ad (there were others in between).

But by 1916 National had a spiffy new logo, the machinist's vises bore the National name (and looked identical to Rae vises), and Yost was not mentioned.

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As for the Yost No. 1 Universal vise...

[Nuts, hit the 10 picture limit. Too bad.]​

Edits: Based on new information.

 

[skmbabon]

It may have been supplanted by 1916 too.

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Edit: Found more evidence of the relationship between Yost and National in a Canadian woodworking forum thread discussing National's planes and their link to Rae.

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[skmbabon]

Shields anvil-vise and drill
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Previously posted by @gman007.
Entered in spreadsheet.

 

[skmbabon]

Rae 3
Swivel base. Made in Hamilton.
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[CRSINMICH]

Williamson/Yost Double Swivel vises​

Eli and Benjamin Williamson were granted a vise patent on October 21, 1902 which was assigned to Williamson Manufacturing Co. They were granted another vise patent on June 6, 1905 which was assigned to Williamson Manufacturing Co., Williamson vise Co., and G.M. Yost Manufacturing Co. This ad for Williamson, which has some specs, appeared in a 1911 journal.

 

[skmbabon]

Paramo No. 6

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Replacing missing pics.

 

[skmbabon]

Rae 4
Swivel base

Made in Hamilton


Made in Orillia (Ductalloy™ version)
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[skmbabon]

Rae 30
This is one of Rae's original paint schemes.
Unknown if this version was made in Hamilton or Orillia.


Made in Orillia (Ductalloy™ version)


This is probably the last variation of Rae's decal. The "Made in Canada" label was a federal government program, apparently in the 1970s.
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[skmbabon]

Record 114P



Catalog page​

 

[skmbabon]

W. R. Brown Corp.
Speedy Air Vise
Chicago


Model 60A​

Model 60B
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Better known for its "Speedy" line of spray painting equipment.

 

[KMScott]

Illinois Iron and Bolt Co. #5. 5" jaws that opens to 7". Looks like the side tabs are missing.

 

[KMScott]

Illinois Iron and Bolt Co. #4-1/2 Woodworkers vise. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 9".

 

[Corvette Mark]

I am planning on finishing my Reed C2 vise with a simple BLO finish. Any tips or techniques on this method? I am planning to do a few light coats and let the BLO dry for 24 hours in between. I have a heat gun which I could use to get the vise warm before applying… any thoughts there? Thanks.

 

[FMC1959]

I am planning on finishing my Reed C2 vise with a simple BLO finish. Any tips or techniques on this method? I am planning to do a few light coats and let the BLO dry for 24 hours in between. I have a heat gun which I could use to get the vise warm before applying… any thoughts there? Thanks.

I have never done a BLO finish but know it is quite popular with many of the GJ members.

My best advise would be to go to the main vise thread that has over 89,000 post (might be the biggest thread on GJ) and ask about doing a BLO finish. I am pretty sure you should get the info you need.

The VISES of Garage Journal

Not a Cole. Think this is missing a mount? Wow, nothing out on the web on that company, and only like 3 worthpoint listings and one iforgeiron on the vise. Have you compared yours to a Cole directly (images)? The side point looks different from my non branded Cole. Someone thought it mounted...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[SkyPuncher]

Thought this might be of interest, quick read about the beginnings of Woden with a mention of Record. Includes old catalogue images. Maybe even help put a date on things. Apologies if it's been posted before.

A Brief History of Darlaston

Catalogue-

A Brief History of Darlaston

 

[skmbabon]

The James Smart Mfg. Co., Ltd.
Brockville, ON
Ware's Patent Steel Yoke Vise No. 14​

This vise was recently auctioned. Not in spreadsheet or anywhere else I could find. No specs, estimating it's got 4 inch jaws (the No 12 is 3", and the 5" model has a different base). Hopefully the buyer will post about it somewhere.

 

[Outlawmws]

I could swear I've seen one of those Smart's vises posted before.

 

[FMC1959]

I could swear I've seen one of those Smart's vises posted before.

I kind of thought the same thing, either I have seen it, or it reminds of another model. It does look a bit like the Prentiss Gypsy vise.

 

[skmbabon]

I could swear I've seen one of those Smart's vises posted before.

You have no doubt. The larger 5", smaller 3" No. 12, and little (salesman sample?) versions have all been posted. I think the spreadsheet is mostly up to date with them. @FMC1959, the other model it reminds you of could be the Utica based on the same Ware Steel Yoke Vise patent.

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[KMScott]

Universal Vise 5. Rotator Body. 4-1/2" jaws that opens to 8" and weights 98 lbs.

 

[KMScott]

R.S. Wilder all shapes vise. 3" Clamp-on. Here is a quote from the owner.

Snagged this R.S. Wilder all shapes vise off ebay. The vise has two jaws that swivel on a turret style jaw. The design was patent by a man named Carl Carlstrom in 1958 whom worked at R.S. Wilder inc. from Waltham MA. That company made micro projectors and other optical equipment.
I believe the vise was designed to assist in the production of the optical components. R.S. Wilder also advertised this vise for sale in two styles c-300 clamp on base and s-300 swivel base mount. original price was $39.95 clamp mount and $44.95 swivel mount.
Stanley tool company made the vise for the R.S. Wilder company and while this vise was being produced a equivalent Stanley vise was $13.90 and a baby bullet Wilton was $17.00.

 

[KMScott]

Record 3VS. 4" jaws.

 

[CRSINMICH]

1894 Article in The Iron Age about Lewis' Patent Vises​

 

[CRSINMICH]

Vise and Anvil combinations are plentiful but,
a Vise and Lathe combination?​

 

[KMScott]

Karas Electric Co. Model 2-1/2. Radial slide and square slide version. 2-1/2" jaws that opens 3". Gonna say a stationary model until I am corrected. They also had a clamp on version.