Vise Info Thread

[CRSINMICH]

WINAN'S NEW IDEA VISE
Barnett Foundry and Machine Co.​

Two 1918 trade journal items.

 

[CRSINMICH]

E. E. HANNA CO. Automatic Quick-Acting Vise
from 1903 edition of The Foundry Journal​

E. E. Hanna Co. of Chicago primarily made foundry machines and equipment but they did offer this vise for a time.

 

[CRSINMICH]

EMMERT 'PRESTO' No.104
Woodworking Vise
The picture of the vise was printed upside down in the 1905 article​

 

[skmbabon]

The Franklin Tool Co.
Buffalo, NY
3 1/2" jaw model
Pic added for spreadsheet entry.

 

[CRSINMICH]

Might as well add this Franklin info too.

 

[skmbabon]

Might as well add this Franklin info too.

Linked to the brochure tab in the spreadsheet. Thanks Cliff!

 

[KMScott]

Mystery Vise
Any one seen one like this Before?

from the owner.
Estate find, never seen this design before, it came out of a rail yard, great restoration project, 7 1/2" wide jaws, opens 11", original mounting screws, opens and closes fine, over 185 pounds, for restoration

 

[Outlawmws]

Looks like the jaw caps swing away? that's an awesome find...

 

[CRSINMICH]

KMS: This is not the vise you posted but there are enough similarities to at least suggest a style.

Schuchardt & Schutte were a German firm that seems to have had tendrils in many countries.

 

[CRSINMICH]

SAMSON VISES
From 1925 Sears catalog​

 

[Graf-Koks]

Hier ein Schraubstock aus Italien.

FZA MG/10 80mm Backenbreite.

Dieser Schraubstock wird noch produziert. Es besteht aus Guss Eisen. Nicht aus Guss Stahl.

Der Schraubstock ist gut und präzise, die Backen sind wendbar. Die Spindel ist verdeckt. Die Führung ist sehr präzise. Der Drehteller ist robust, aber eher schlecht konstruiert. Kein deutscher Standard.

 

[Graf-Koks]

Noch ein Bild

 

[KMScott]

Stanley C-590 Clamp-on. 2-1/2" jaws that opens to 3".

 

[Outlawmws]

Hier ein Schraubstock aus Italien.

FZA MG/10 80mm Backenbreite.

Dieser Schraubstock wird noch produziert. Es besteht aus Guss Eisen. Nicht aus Guss Stahl.

Der Schraubstock ist gut und präzise, die Backen sind wendbar. Die Spindel ist verdeckt. Die Führung ist sehr präzise. Der Drehteller ist robust, aber eher schlecht konstruiert. Kein deutscher Standard.

Here is a vice from Italy.

FZA MG/10 80mm jaw width.

This vise is still in production. It is made of cast iron. Not made of cast steel.

The vice is good and precise, the jaws are reversible. The spindle is hidden. The guidance is very precise. The turntable is robust, but rather poorly constructed. Not a German standard.

 

[Outlawmws]

Noch ein Bild

One more picture

 

[KMScott]

Here is a vice from Italy.

FZA MG/10 80mm jaw width.

This vise is still in production. It is made of cast iron. Not made of cast steel.

The vice is good and precise, the jaws are reversible. The spindle is hidden. The guidance is very precise. The turntable is robust, but rather poorly constructed. Not a German standard.

Awesome you can read Italian Outlaw. Thanks for the interpretation.

 

[Graf-Koks]

Dont know how to deleted this

 

[Graf-Koks]

Thank you for translation ! I think it could translated automaticly, but it wasnt.

 

[Outlawmws]

Awesome you can read Italian Outlaw. Thanks for the interpretation.

I can't read Italian nor much German (which is what it is) (1-1/2 years in HS did not stick...)

But Google translate is my freind

Thank you for translation ! I think it could translated automaticly, but it wasnt.

Your welcome - No, the forum dose not auto translate, at least on Chrome for me...

 

[RTM]

Thank you for translation ! I think it could translated automaticly, but it wasnt.

Only if most of the page is in a different language, then chrome will offer to translate automatically.

If I select your text, the copy paste ribbon bar that pops up will offer translate as a choice.

 

[KMScott]

McCarter U2. 2” Clamp-on ball swivel vise.

 

[Outlawmws]

That's a cool one Dr. Scott!

 

[CRSINMICH]

1922 Charles McCarter patent drawings​

 

[KMScott]

Woden 186/B3. 4" jaws that opens to 6".

 

[CRSINMICH]

More Bel-Kel Universal Vise information
​

According to these 1927 journal cuts, B-K vises were made in four sizes 2", 3 1/2", 4 1/2", and 6" jaw widths. The jaw openings were from 2" to 9" and their weights were between 8 and 60 pounds. One of the cuts mentioned that the vises were made of malleable iron. Another small clip identified C.L. Bell and Geo. B. Kelso as officers of the company.

Bel-Kel made other items beside vises. Their VELOCIPEDE looked like a thrill.

 

[KMScott]

Thanks CRS for your research on the McCarver vise. Do you think all 4 models are clamp-ons? I couldn't find anything mentioning that all models are clamp-ons.

 

[CRSINMICH]

KMS: It's hard to imagine a 60 pound clamp-on with 6" jaws but there is no mention of any models that were not clamp-ons either. The only items that mention Bel-Kel Universal Vises that I found were from either 1926 or 1927 although the company seemed to have lasted at least a few more years. The Great Depression was about to hit which might have had something to do with that.

 

[ranger08]

Here is a small Dawn "dawnette" made in australia, clamp on 2 inch jaws
appears in vise sheet although no photos
This one was made prior to 1970 when Australia adopted the metric system

 

[Outlawmws]

Here is a small Dawn "dawnette" made in australia, clamp on 2 inch jaws

I like that! Not sure its any sort of precision vise, but I like the styling!

 

[CRSINMICH]

Build your own vise?

1916 High School Shop Project - Metal Working Vise
Washington High School Milwaukee, Wisconsin

This article from INDUSTRIAL ARTS magazine has schematics but minimal instructions. Any one want to give it a try?​

 

[KMScott]

CRS, the drawing is in fractions, I guess another learning tool since machine shop equipment is in decimal. It’s like converting a metric drawing to English. Nice looking vise for sure. I would have ate this project up when I was in Vo-Tech during High School.

 

[12vx2]

Here is a vise I am not familiar with for sale in Depew OK on FBM.
NS Co. No. 2. Seller states 4" jaws, opens to 7", about 60#. $85

 

[CRSINMICH]

12vx2: I can't identify the maker of that vise but here is some information on the type of vise it is. It's a combination vise (missing it's pipe jaws) based on this 1865 Dart patent. Several other makers used that style too. Notice that it has through-the-bench mounting. I'd say it's worth the asking price just for it's rarity and I already have one of that type. I hope this helps you.

 

[12vx2]

12vx2: I can't identify the maker of that vise but here is some information on the type of vise it is. It's a combination vise (missing it's pipe jaws) based on this 1865 Dart patent. Several other makers used that style too. Notice that it has through-the-bench mounting. I'd say it's worth the asking price just for it's rarity and I already have one of that type. I hope this helps you.

I can see why someone would remove the pipe jaws, they are so massive they limit the usefulness of the vise except for clamping pipe.

 

[neophyte]

I can see why someone would remove the pipe jaws, they are so massive they limit the usefulness of the vise except for clamping pipe.

Missing pipe jaws on the older US style combination vises seems to be very common.

 

[CRSINMICH]

WOOD'S UNIVERSAL VISE
Manufactured by Hinsdale Machine and Tool
​

The photograph came from the DATAMP website. They credited JK Bane.

 

[ranger08]

New one for the sheet
Record 773 made in england, clamp on
80mm jaws opens to 100mm weighs 20kg
Made for the railways

 

[Outlawmws]

Made for the railways

N gauge?

 

[KMScott]

Thanks Ranger, getting harder to find vises to add. I should work on the England vices.

 

[CRSINMICH]

KMS: Seek and ye shall find. Here are two English vices that are not on the spreadsheet. Premier and Univice. Both ads are from 1951.