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And was heavily styled after a Prentiss from the looks of it?
Definitely the biggest "Record" I've ever seen. Very cool!
Definitely the biggest "Record" I've ever seen. Very cool!
You may say it's a record Record.
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So, now we have officially recorded a record Record!
or a Record record...toemaytoe toemahtoe...
or a Record record...toemaytoe toemahtoe...
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Following up on some vintage posts that don't have full data in the spreadsheet.
Universal Vise & Tool company, as seen here
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Stumbled across a catalog here, while looking for "Universal Clamp Co". Blind pig met truffle.
Universal Vise & Tool company, as seen here
The VISES of Garage Journal
Kevin, we are all looking forward to your “better than average” job on that unusual vise sitting on that fantastic one of a kind stand fabbed up by Royce. You and he together make an amazing team. We have all seen your past restorations. If your shooting for “better than average” it’s hard for...
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Stumbled across a catalog here, while looking for "Universal Clamp Co". Blind pig met truffle.
Universal Vise & Tool Co. : Catalog No. 1169 : Universal Vise & Tool Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
20 p., illus., 27.9 cm, trade catalog
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This woodworking vise showed on Craigslist locally. There’s no pictures of the front. The guy wants $10. Anybody got an idea on an ID for this?
This woodworking vise showed on Craigslist locally. There’s no pictures of the front. The guy wants $10. Anybody got an idea on an ID for this?
Hard to guess from the photos you have, at least for me. Try posting on the main vise thread, there are many more viewers and someone might be good with a wood vise
akasrick
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Can you raise any markings on the anvil or the nose of the screw?
From the spreadsheet:
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-vises-of-garage-journal.44782/page-1622#post-7292937
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Found it, Stanley Sweethart #766, look a lot different the the specimen shown in the spreadsheet, Older?
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This woodworking vise showed on Craigslist locally. There’s no pictures of the front. The guy wants $10. Anybody got an idea on an ID for this?
It's a pre-1958 woodworking vise, mfg. by the Rock Island Mfg. Co. They made a gazillion of these vises for Sears as a Craftsman woodworking vise.
Nothing fancy, but everything you'd need for a really solid woodworking vise, especially for ten dollars.
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tjpavlov
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Thanks for the help. I grabbed it for $10 figuring it was a good deal. I’ve degreased it and gave it broken down and soaking in some Evaporust. Here’s a pick of the front:
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Your vise I would say is older compared to the vise I'm seeing on the spreadsheet.
Found it, Stanley Sweethart #766, look a lot different the the specimen shown in the spreadsheet, Older?
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/the-vises-of-garage-journal.44782/page-50#post-1462385
Quite a hefty vise you have there.
There is a lot of Stanley info around too compare to.
Enjoy!
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The spreadsheet was a mistake, I updated the image showing the correct Stanley 766 model. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Clipper Tool Co. Here is a quote from the vise owner and a great vise description.
This little Oval vise (similar to a U-Beam and not to be confused to a Farmers or I-Beam vise) was an easy clean up and motivated me to post. A quick dip in Acetone to remove any grease and grime is all it took.
Manufactured by the Clipper Tool Company out of Buffalo NY. The company manufactured the Neverbreak all-steel saw vises and oval slide bench vises, circa 1913-1922. Their other products included assorted household-quality hand tools and hardware specialties. The company began advertising in mid-1913, incorporated in 1918. 285 Mills St., Buffalo, NY.
Many of you might know that Buffalo NY was also home to Howard Iron Works who got into making vises in 1870 when they purchased Buffalo Vise Works.
Interesting little 3 1/8" jaw, Max opening 4" and weighs just 12 pounds. Slide, body, spindle and a basic spindle nut. None of which have much machining. In the one photo you can see where they took a chisel and simply notched the spindle to capture the retaining sleeve. Notice the half circle or teardrop relief on top of the jaw towers. Remind anyone of Rock Island or some of the Columbian vises?
This little Oval vise (similar to a U-Beam and not to be confused to a Farmers or I-Beam vise) was an easy clean up and motivated me to post. A quick dip in Acetone to remove any grease and grime is all it took.
Manufactured by the Clipper Tool Company out of Buffalo NY. The company manufactured the Neverbreak all-steel saw vises and oval slide bench vises, circa 1913-1922. Their other products included assorted household-quality hand tools and hardware specialties. The company began advertising in mid-1913, incorporated in 1918. 285 Mills St., Buffalo, NY.
Many of you might know that Buffalo NY was also home to Howard Iron Works who got into making vises in 1870 when they purchased Buffalo Vise Works.
Interesting little 3 1/8" jaw, Max opening 4" and weighs just 12 pounds. Slide, body, spindle and a basic spindle nut. None of which have much machining. In the one photo you can see where they took a chisel and simply notched the spindle to capture the retaining sleeve. Notice the half circle or teardrop relief on top of the jaw towers. Remind anyone of Rock Island or some of the Columbian vises?
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I really like that color.
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(Apologies if posting screens of an active auction is not allowed, but this is too neat not to ask here)
Not my item, and I suspect it'll be gone by the time I get this posted, but on that auction site this interesting looking thing came up this afternoon. 2 1/4" jaws, covered slide, has some lines that look Parker to me...but I've never seen anything like it. Any of the experts know what this is?
Not my item, and I suspect it'll be gone by the time I get this posted, but on that auction site this interesting looking thing came up this afternoon. 2 1/4" jaws, covered slide, has some lines that look Parker to me...but I've never seen anything like it. Any of the experts know what this is?
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Next time, trust your vise instincts and be the owner. Whoever acquired that vise, got away with highway robbery. It's worth many times the "Buy it Now" price of $45 it sold for, in my opinion.
I believe it's an 1880's, 2-1/2" jaw Trenton Vise & Tool Works stationary parallel vise. Trenton didn't have a consistent model numbering system, but it would have had similar specs to the Trenton no.31 vise sold by the Van Wagoner & Williams Co. from (1892-1901). In 1901, The Columbian Hardware Co. became the successors of that company and produced the same Trenton machinists' vises in their earliest years.
The Trenton Vise & Tool Works, incorporated in 1868, has such a rich history, but for some unknown reason to me, doesn't have very many vises that have survived to the collectors age. I've been very fortunate to find a beautiful Trenton no.33 vise, that is one of my favorite vises.
MattGavriloff...Thanks for sharing!
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Very cool bit of info sir! Glad someone got a good deal! I probably would have sprung for it but I just picked up this beautiful little Athol No. 88 for just a few $ more that has my tiny vise needs/desires satisfied currently. (maybe satiated is a better word...it is like a hunger...lol)
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Here's another one for the Prof! You'll again probably tell me I shouldn't have passed on this one too. It's from a couple months? ago on eBay and was similarly priced. Not a lot to go on other than No. 1 and the unique design. I was real close to snagging this one just because it looks real neat. But I don't believe it lasted more than a couple hours either and was gone once I decided to have another look at it.
WHATSIT?
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MattGravriloff...I'm not "the Prof", just one of many vise collectors at TheGarageJournal. There are many other willing and capable members that answer vise questions all the time. Blessings to all of them.
The vise in question screams
"made-in-England", which is not in my wheelhouse or database. So, I went to the vise spreadsheet and sorted by "Model" to get all of the no.1 vises together. It was pretty easy to find some information after that.
The vise is an early English made improved parallel vice, possibly made for or by Spear & Jackson, as seen in the 1923 catalog below.
As far as passing on a great vise opportunity, yeah, I think you should probably have a "Come to Jesus meeting" with yourself. Vise on!
The vise in question screams
"made-in-England", which is not in my wheelhouse or database. So, I went to the vise spreadsheet and sorted by "Model" to get all of the no.1 vises together. It was pretty easy to find some information after that.The vise is an early English made improved parallel vice, possibly made for or by Spear & Jackson, as seen in the 1923 catalog below.
As far as passing on a great vise opportunity, yeah, I think you should probably have a "Come to Jesus meeting" with yourself. Vise on!
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Point taken...next time I'll come ask after it's on MY table!...Thanks for another bit of info. I've been using the spreadsheet a bit, but I never thought to sort by just "No 1". Seems so obvious now.
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So I lied a little, I said it would be on my TABLE, but it's on the garage floor...lol
Picked this up with a pile of other goodies today, no identifying marks I have found yet. 3 3/8" jaws, weighs...maybe 25-30lbs? (scale needs batteries) Hopefully one of the aforementioned vise collectors can identify this oddball for me! It sure feels "old"...and if the rest of the estate was anything to go on, just about anything is possible...lol.
It's a bit rough around the edges, literally...but I didn't think it wise to pass it up. I know I'VE never seen any sort of swivel jaw/anvil horn combo vise before.
Picked this up with a pile of other goodies today, no identifying marks I have found yet. 3 3/8" jaws, weighs...maybe 25-30lbs? (scale needs batteries) Hopefully one of the aforementioned vise collectors can identify this oddball for me! It sure feels "old"...and if the rest of the estate was anything to go on, just about anything is possible...lol.
It's a bit rough around the edges, literally...but I didn't think it wise to pass it up. I know I'VE never seen any sort of swivel jaw/anvil horn combo vise before.
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Matt, do you thing the horn was added? Just doesn't look right. No clue on the make of your swivel jaw.
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MattGravriloff...That's simply an amazing find! The "Vise God's" have surely blessed you with this one. As va.grouseman would say, "You done good bubba". Absolutely no idea at this point of the maker.
KMScott...Although the horn looks unusual, I believe it's original, based on the lower and side supports. MattGraviloff should be able to give us a better insight though. It's fun to continue to see the "never seen before" vises. Another good day for the Vise Info Thread.
KMScott...Although the horn looks unusual, I believe it's original, based on the lower and side supports. MattGraviloff should be able to give us a better insight though. It's fun to continue to see the "never seen before" vises. Another good day for the Vise Info Thread.
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Wow - I did not know Universal made bench vises. They were more known for their heavy duty compound angle vises. The one I used had 5.5" jaws and weigh 80 lbs.Following up on some vintage posts that don't have full data in the spreadsheet.
Universal Vise & Tool company, as seen here
The VISES of Garage Journal
Kevin, we are all looking forward to your “better than average” job on that unusual vise sitting on that fantastic one of a kind stand fabbed up by Royce. You and he together make an amazing team. We have all seen your past restorations. If your shooting for “better than average” it’s hard for...
Stumbled across a catalog here, while looking for "Universal Clamp Co". Blind pig met truffle.
Universal Vise & Tool Co. : Catalog No. 1169 : Universal Vise & Tool Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
20 p., illus., 27.9 cm, trade catalogarchive.org
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Akasrick, closest I've see so far! That Bonney is in the same ballpark at least .
Only had time to take a quick look over again this morning and found some numbers. I doubt they will help identify it though. Looks like 18, or I8, and 11, on the bottom of the base.
It also looks to me like the screw is a buttress thread. It's hard to see in the pictures, but unless it's a VERY worn square thread, it reminds me of an Athol Screw. Not that they are the only ones that use that thread.
Also a picture showing the "shallow pyramid" shape to the sides of the dynamic slide. I can't recall seeing anything like that before on a vise either. Maybe a clue for one of the pros? You can see the pin holding the meatball on the screw as well, not sure if that's as built, or a repair. Doesn't seem loose at all, but I haven't really torn into it.
I'm happy it isn't easily identifiable...lol, but I hope we can figure out at least a bit more about it!
I'll try to pull the slide today and take some more pictures. I will say that searching by "anvil vise, anvil horn vise, vise with horn, and combination anvil vise" hasn't dug up anything for me yet, aside from the usual suspects.
Only had time to take a quick look over again this morning and found some numbers. I doubt they will help identify it though. Looks like 18, or I8, and 11, on the bottom of the base.
It also looks to me like the screw is a buttress thread. It's hard to see in the pictures, but unless it's a VERY worn square thread, it reminds me of an Athol Screw. Not that they are the only ones that use that thread.
Also a picture showing the "shallow pyramid" shape to the sides of the dynamic slide. I can't recall seeing anything like that before on a vise either. Maybe a clue for one of the pros? You can see the pin holding the meatball on the screw as well, not sure if that's as built, or a repair. Doesn't seem loose at all, but I haven't really torn into it.
I'm happy it isn't easily identifiable...lol, but I hope we can figure out at least a bit more about it!
I'll try to pull the slide today and take some more pictures. I will say that searching by "anvil vise, anvil horn vise, vise with horn, and combination anvil vise" hasn't dug up anything for me yet, aside from the usual suspects.
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I'm a new guy compared to the knowledge, memory, talent of the people on these threads.
Quite a find you have there.
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Quite a find you have there.
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Thx. guys! Is there a blushing smiley?
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MattG, you've posted so much interesting stuff, that Athol 88 didn't get the recognition it's due. What a sweet little vise! And if I understand right you got it for an absolute steal.
Posted this on the big vise thread but it was requested to post here too,
Woden 186B/0. 2.5" jaws open to 3", 8lbs
Pics here
Posted this on the big vise thread but it was requested to post here too,
Woden 186B/0. 2.5" jaws open to 3", 8lbs
Pics here
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I cannot tell a lie, I stole it...lol. It's in what I feel is fairly remarkable condition for a 100 year old vise, and I got it sent to my door for $50. Saw it on Craigslist and knew it was "lite" so I messaged the seller and asked if they'd pack it up tight in a flat rate and mail it to me.
I don't think there's much for pics of one in the link on the spreadsheet, so here are some more along with exact specs.
Athol No 88 (A.M. Co, so pre 1920-22)
Jaws measure 2 1/2" wide,
Jaws max safe open 2 1/2"
Weighs 9lbs, 6.8oz
And a picture with my brazed, unmarked, Prentiss No 37. Just because it makes the little Athol look BIG...lol
I think that one has data and pics already. 2" jaws, open 2 1/8", weighs 4lbs 2.6oz (with some repair)
I don't think there's much for pics of one in the link on the spreadsheet, so here are some more along with exact specs.
Athol No 88 (A.M. Co, so pre 1920-22)
Jaws measure 2 1/2" wide,
Jaws max safe open 2 1/2"
Weighs 9lbs, 6.8oz
And a picture with my brazed, unmarked, Prentiss No 37. Just because it makes the little Athol look BIG...lol
I think that one has data and pics already. 2" jaws, open 2 1/8", weighs 4lbs 2.6oz (with some repair)
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