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acer66

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Hey,

I am doing one too many tile jobs and thinking about getting an 10” wet tile saw.

MK seemed to be the standard but I have trouble finding one.

The newer Dewalt seems promising.

This particular job involves a lot of 12x24” tiles which I never did before and my tools are no real match for those.

Any thoughts?

Oh and I am in my waining years so my strength is not what it used to be.😉

Thank you.
 
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Snap cutter for as much as possible.

I've done a few jobs with a little 7" ridgid saw. It's light and stores compactly, but it does have limited capacity and power.

If I had a really complex or big project coming up, I'd rent one for a day to get the bulk of the cuts done, but for the short money and small amount of space it takes up for the 364 days a year it's in storage, my little saw is great.

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I have a 10" wet saw and hate dragging it to a job and using it. I only drag it out for tiles that it's a must. I have a nice snap cutter and between that and a grinder with a good blade I can do 99 percent of my cuts.
 
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I have a cheap snap cutter which served me well so maybe I should look into a better one first.
I really like to use it since it is dry.
 
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What's wrong with the current snap cutter? Just too small?
Nothing really, just old and cheap but otherwise it does it job.
Never cut big tiles like that before so that is why I was looking for something more pro.


Edit. It has not support for larger tiles but I could just make those.
 
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As said above with the 12x24 tile a 7 or 10 inch saw will would fine. I would definitely use the tile snapper where you can though. They can sure save a lot of time running to the wet saw back and forth.

Just try a test cut on some tile and see how your snapper works. If you need to buy one anything from Rubi will be good. But those can cost about as 2/3 much as a decent wet saw.


However at some point it's on it's likely a wet saw will be unavoidable. But it still may be best just to rent one if it's a one-time job. If you're looking to buy one. Ridgid and DeWalt are pretty nice for the money.
 

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I have a rubi. Don't know the model off the top of my head but it was around 5-600 bucks about a decade ago. I had a cheap snap cutter years ago and it would do decent but wouldn't do smaller cuts. So since I needed the wet saw for half the cuts I just used that. But I did some research and found most tile guys use a good snap cutters almost exclusively. If you have a cheap one that does alright you will be amazed at a good one. Yes they cost almost as much as a wet saw but to me it's worth it.

Now, like mentioned above there are certain tiles you will need a wet saw. I just did a backsplash with glass subway tiles. Snap cutter worked good for straight cuts but a glass blade on grinder was not working for compound cuts around outlets. So I had to get out the wet saw for those couple cuts. Honestly they both have their place.
 

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I always did all my cuts with the wet saw, always a straight clean cut. If you're doing porcelain tile, you should have a wet saw. I had a Felker for many years, sold it when I retired. Moved to Florida and decided to remodel the master bath and kitchen. Picked up a cheap wet saw from HD and ordered a good blade online.
 

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Remember a snap cutter is not suitable for all tile materials. I got the ryobi 7in when I did my kitchen backsplash and it was well worth the money I spent on it. A bigger slider would probably give you a better more accurate cut but if you take your time the smaller ones work well.
 

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I used the DeWalt wet saw for three bathrooms (I'm not a tile pro) and was very happy with it. I used a variety of porcelain and glass tile types. If I remember right, it could cut about 26"-27" of length, so a 12"x24" tile could be cut in both directions. I had some 36" tiles that I had to get creative with using a "fence" on the sliding table, more in line with a table saw approach.

I used a MK saw (MK-101?) on my first bathroom, and thought the DeWalt was a pretty nice upgrade. I don't have experience with any of the other options out there.

Also, it's worth mentioning that the quality of the blade can certainly make a difference in the quality of the cuts, especially on some of the harder-to-cut glass tiles.

Tyler
 

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Harbor freight used to have a 25" bridge saw for under $200 (with coupon). Other than storage issues it works great.
 
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Thanks guys, that is a lot of good info and I had to look up bridge saw since I never seen one of those before.

I definitely need a wet saw on the job because the shower floor tile are herring bone mats.
And my wet saw is a tiny old $60 beater so I might see a 7” Ryobi in my future.


Not to derail my own Thread here but maybe another question.
The walls and the rest of the bathroom floor besides the shower have 12”x24” tiles but they are also laid with a 1/16” gap.

Any pointers laying such large tiles with such a small gap?

Thank you.
 

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Thanks guys, that is a lot of good info and I had to look up bridge saw since I never seen one of those before.

I definitely need a wet saw on the job because the shower floor tile are herring bone mats.
And my wet saw is a tiny old $60 beater so I might see a 7” Ryobi in my future.


Not to derail my own Thread here but maybe another question.
The walls and the rest of the bathroom floor besides the shower have 12”x24” tiles but they are also laid with a 1/16” gap.

Any pointers laying such large tiles with such a small gap?

Thank you.
Go with a lippage system (I like Raimondi myself), and make sure the walls are flat.
 

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Any pointers laying such large tiles with such a small gap?
There are a lot of pointers and guidelines out there for large tiles and small gaps. A lippage/leveling system and hard spacers (not the squishy rubber ones) are certainly helpful (multiple work at different price points and levels of "goodness"). Flat walls can be critical.

There are also guidelines for the minimum suggested gap size relative to the variation in tile sizes. Rectified tiles help, but all tiles have some variability in length/width. Going from memory, I think the gap is supposed to be at least 3x the variation in tile size (you can stack 5-10 tiles on their side and see how much variation there is). Smaller gaps are possible, but you'll notice the variation.

The bow of the tiles also can be a factor. Most tiles have some bow, especially as they get bigger. You can put the tile on its face and see if it spins. A 50% offset in tiles from row to row will maximize the problem, with the low spots on one row right next to the high spots on the next row, creating lippage. Potentially ugly on a wall, and potentially a trip hazard on a floor. Again, bigger gaps between tiles helps hide this. Also, the placement of a ceiling light for a wall can hide or accentuate the shadows created by lippage. For big tiles, most people recommend a 1/3 offset between rows as a maximum.

That all being said, 1/16" gaps would make me a little nervous unless the tiles are VERY flat and uniform. And I'd definitely want rectified. I've used 3/32" gaps for tiles of similar size, and think that can look really nice (still with uniform/flat/rectified tiles).

I'm relatively new here, so I don't know if I can link to other forums, but there are some tiling-specific forums that can be very helpful for info like this.

Good luck!
Tyler
 

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I used a Felker 8"tile saw for my bathroom remodel years back. I do not think they make my saw anymore but it does work great. Can not remember what is the largest size tile it can cut. It is just waiting in the garage for the next tiling job.

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Thanks guys, that is a lot of good info and I had to look up bridge saw since I never seen one of those before.

I definitely need a wet saw on the job because the shower floor tile are herring bone mats.
And my wet saw is a tiny old $60 beater so I might see a 7” Ryobi in my future.


Not to derail my own Thread here but maybe another question.
The walls and the rest of the bathroom floor besides the shower have 12”x24” tiles but they are also laid with a 1/16” gap.

Any pointers laying such large tiles with such a small gap?

Thank you.
If you are doing mats, I would not get a basic, fixed blade saw. The mats will not slide well and it will be very frustrating unless you cut tiles individually.

I really like the horseshoe spacers for applications where lippage systems aren't needed.
 

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Op last 25 years completed 2 full baths and 1 kitchen with 2 table wet saws from HD, last one was a Rigid. Buy the best blades as well don’t go cheap. Not going to use it often after completing the projects, but these are great DIY projects that hopefully you will enjoy. Nice break from wrenching on your vehicles, never a dull moment owning a home and vehicles:).
 

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We bought a nice MK 35 plus years ago when we got our first house. That saw has earned its’ keep 30 times over. Remodeled many homes…bathrooms, kitchens, floors…

get a good saw and you will not regret it.
 
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Okay, I ordered spinners.
Just p/u my 7” ryobi saw plus a fancy blade.
The FHB issue will arrive hopefully soon.
Confidence level is going up.

Thank you all for your help.
 

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That looks...janky. I don't think I would let an important tile job rely on an Amazon-special lippage system
Why? Plenty of YouTube TikTok and Instagram video of people did amazing jobs with them.. I have the old wedge type leveling from homedepot works fine as well. It’s just what ever the guy is comfortable with or familiar with using.

I do agree with one of the comment though, never let the customer dictate what tool you use for the job.

As far as tile cutter, get one of those bridge type. It will cut large tiles easier than the old design with side arm. You might still need a smaller 7” tile saw and a hand held one though. Dependents.

The large one I have is HF from years ago when they still have the industrial water tight motor 1hp or 2. The 7” is Ryobi ones older model the hand held one is dewalt 4.5” I think wet attachments. Cuts like butter used it with a straight edge.

Any of the tile saw you get, especially the HF ones, get a better blade. Makes it 100% better.
 

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LOL I can't say I did a fantastic job with it. What is so janky about that system?
It looks like crappy quality plastic and the tool to tighten looks just janky. It's also super cheap and on Amazon. Nothing about that setup inspires confidece and I wouldn't try it.

Having a tile job go sideways because something like this ends up being junk is not what I would want.
 

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It looks like crappy quality plastic and the tool to tighten looks just janky. It's also super cheap and on Amazon. Nothing about that setup inspires confidece and I wouldn't try it.

Having a tile job go sideways because something like this ends up being junk is not what I would want.
old days before these clicking / screwing leveling systems, a good ole throw some spacers in to level it till the motar dries is still good and works. Just more PITA. Like I said never used it so can't say yea / nay with that.. but if you look at that link from post #28, the system is just like one of those in the post. The installer still have to be comfortable and familiar with using any system though.
 

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old days before these clicking / screwing leveling systems, a good ole throw some spacers in to level it till the motar dries is still good and works. Just more PITA. Like I said never used it so can't say yea / nay with that.. but if you look at that link from post #28, the system is just like one of those in the post. The installer still have to be comfortable and familiar with using any system though.
The installer only has to be comfortable with what they want to use and what they can get. Worrying about being able to use the cheapest thing on Amazon is for a cheap diy user.
 

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The installer only has to be comfortable with what they want to use and what they can get. Worrying about being able to use the cheapest thing on Amazon is for a cheap diy user.
is there a cheapest thing ? It's either a system that works , or installer can make it work... the final product is the pudding right ?

***This is the link for that amazon product, the lifting pin looks to be metal.. and plenty enough to lift tiles.. but looks like it's only for 1/16 or 2mm gapped tiles, not 1/8 or larger.. you might have to buy the ones specific to the gap I would think. Not 100% sure since I never used it before.

 
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is there a cheapest thing ? It's either a system that works , or installer can make it work... the final product is the pudding right ?
I feel like we are talking about different things.

If I was an installer, I would find a high quality system that was available at my local supply house and get comfortable with it. That is not something that you will find anywhere in a store, IMO.

My point is that an installer shouldnt ever need to "make it work".

I am.sure lots of people buy that kit and many have probably had a decent enough experience. But that doesn't really make it good, most just likely don't have a comparison point.

Dont let me get in the way of you buying that kit though :) this is just my take on it
 

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Dont let me get in the way of you buying that kit though :) this is just my take on it
LOL I was actually thinking of buying something like that for my tile projects... but I bought a bunch of levers from HD, the wedge type when they were discontinue it. so at a good price... I might still get it and post you a "look look look here and here and look " lol post.

My point is that an installer shouldnt ever need to "make it work".
I am referring to installing the tiles level and make it look good at the end with any system or experiences. Not exactly making a product work.. That would dependent on the installer, you can have the highest end systems, and if the installer doesn't want to, or not willing to, or not experienced, or not comfortable with. they can easily "make it not work" sort of if you can imagine a scenerio , you bought your car into a shop and the monkey mechanic mess it up, the owner comes out running and say look here, our guys are equipped with the finest Snap-on tools...
 

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I am talking about the "installer" in the sense of a pro and you may be speaking more broadly about whomever is performing the job?
 

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I am talking about the "installer" in the sense of a pro and you may be speaking more broadly about whomever is performing the job?
I have never seen a paid person that says he is a non-pro installer ( should have seen the ones that did the flooring job at FIL's place) ... except when I diy, I still call my self a pro diyer.
Even for Pro installers.. they still have their preference of choice for leveling tiles.. some will even defend it to "death" sort of in a figurative speaking way.. because that is what they are familiar with, and that was what it is working for them. I have seen lots of pro installers that doesn't need these fancy levelers as well.
 
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