what is the best material to put on walls

[dixie]

This is the before picture with OSB and white paint. I just cut the magnesiacore with a table saw and tacked it on over the old OSB without removing anything. No mess by encapsulating it under the new board.

BTW the table saw with a wood finishing blade cuts through it like butter leaving a sharp clean edge without the need to sand it smooth.

 

[BlackLead]

Ok... This is just my corner test area. I only had time to test the material out with my nail gun. But this is the same spot from the prior "before" picture I posted.

What do you think? Can't notice the nail gun holes at all since it blends in with the patern in the magnesiacore. It should work just as well with finishng nails and a hammer.

I'll try to do more over next weekend when I have more time. Busy week at work next week. I start lots of projects around the house and never get to have enough time to finish them in one shot. Bear with me and I'll do more soon.

That has a nice industrial look to it. Looks good. Do they sell direct to the consumer? Judging from their site, it looks like you have to be a business to buy from them. Is this correct?

 

[dixie]

You can buy direct if there is no stocking distributor in your area. It costs something more than in a retail store because of shipping in small quantities and you need to arrange to unload it from a freight truck. You have to buy one pallet minimum if there's no stocking distributor in your area. There email is here www.magnesiacore.com

The stuff is good for many things like a general purpose wood particle board. I'm using it for shelving and to make over odd things around the house, revamping the top of my wood patio table that's in rough shape by nailing this over the bench and top.

 

[dixie]

Check this out

It's a picture of magnesiacore used to remake a kitchen counter top. Very versatile material.

There's more pictures on this link

http://magnesiacore.com/projects.html

 

[Fredartic]

There is a special on SmartSide panel from Goodfellow company, grade B. I think that this stuff is the best. No joint to do, no paint, so you save time. It's usually used for panelling the outside of house, garage... It's painted, waterproof, very strong, 7/16 thick, you can drill in... So, I just see advantages for these stuff, don't you agree? Here. it's $19.99 per panel of 4x8.

 

[V-10 Killer]

I just priced it out for my garage project. The price was about what I'd expect for finished drywall. But the freight and brokerage fees tipped the scales a little too much. I think I'll just pay for drywall.

 

[dixie]

Did you get samples? If you did you should agree that its worth every penny more than drywall even with the shipping costs. Plus you don't have to paint it.

 

[dixie]

Just letting everyone know that I did a little more trial work on my garage and find that with the 1/4" you do need panel adhesive in addition to the brad nails as they say on their website. Otherwise it sounds hollow with only the 1/4" magnesiacore over the old 5/8" since the old OSB is not as perfectly flat as the magnesiacore is.

If its just studs then 3/8" should be good enough for normal household wear and tear. The 1/2" would make your garage walls rock solid if you really want to throw your tools and heavy equipment around and bang into the walls without damaging them.

 

[dixie]

There is a special on SmartSide panel from Goodfellow company, grade B. I think that this stuff is the best. No joint to do, no paint, so you save time. It's usually used for panelling the outside of house, garage... It's painted, waterproof, very strong, 7/16 thick, you can drill in... So, I just see advantages for these stuff, don't you agree? Here. it's $19.99 per panel of 4x8.

I don't know if the inside of a garage looks good in artificial wood. I don't think the stuff is that resitant to garage type activities and abuses. Probably won't last more than OSB which is what I had on before.

 

[m59racer]

Being a machinist, I want the bottom 4 to 5 feet done with stainless steel sheet stock. About a 1 foot contrasting border above that, then the rest done with either gloss or semi-gloss white for light reflectivity. This should make for keeping it clean fairly easy, as it seems the bottom 4 feet are what gets the most crud on it.

Rich.

 

[rizzorace]

I cant believe noone has said to use corogated metal, it cost me 1350.00 to do the walls in this 36 x 40 x 14 high, they come painted and cut to size. so easy a chimp could put them up to.

 

[V-10 Killer]

Don't you have to back that with drywall or OSB or something to keep it straight? Looks like you have it installed in a pole building, where there is ample horizontal screwing locations. What about framed garages with studs 16" on center?

 

[Bruce T]

I've mentioned using pole barn siding on the inside on here in other posts many times. Always to get it blown off and people suggesting that super expensive fiberglass stuff that needs a osb backer anyway. I thought it was maybe a regional thing because almost every industrial place or auto/fab shop around here uses it. Its cheap, comes in colors, somes cut to what you exactly want, and is easy to put up. It needs NO backing (pole barns dont need backing when its on the outside) and no extra finishing like drywall. My 34x48x14 will cost around $1800 for the walls and ceiling and it will be put up in a day or so.

 

[Morrisman]

I reckon I'll just use a good wire brushing and a coat of decent gloss white paint myself.
It's only a small shop so heating it when I'm in there will only require a small fan heater, and concrete ain't gonna burn, crack, chip or crumble if I lean a little hard on it. The inner roof will be plasterboard, or 'sheet rock' as you guys over the waters call it. A modicum of fire retardency is needed so I don't ever torch my mucho labour intensive roof.

 

[Fredartic]

What about the canexel panel usually used for outside?

 

[Fredartic]

I just bought canexel panel. They will be delivered tomorrow. This stuff is discontinued in panel. That's why I buy them now. The salesman was very impressive when I told him what for I bought it; he said that it will do a great job! It's wood finish looking painted and sealed in manufacture. The color available is only sand and it's perfect, not too much dark.

 

[bonehed927]

i just finished the walls in my 24x24 garage. Debated back and forth with sheet rock, panels, osb etc. Went to Lowes and got Silver peg board for $8.00 per sheet on clearance. Did all the walls for less than $100. Light reflects off the silver and I can hang anything anywhere.

 

[Fredartic]

i just finished the walls in my 24x24 garage. Debated back and forth with sheet rock, panels, osb etc. Went to Lowes and got Silver peg board for $8.00 per sheet on clearance. Did all the walls for less than $100. Light reflects off the silver and I can hang anything anywhere.

Hey very good! I would like to see pictures of it.

 

[jamesleroy]

I used 1/2" osb and it works good but I would suggest nails instead of screws so you don't have those annoying ******* to deal with especially when you install the plastic molding along the bottom. I primed then painted with glidden paint. I'd also suggest using the backside of the osb so you don't have to use extra coats to assure the black reference lines cover completely.

 

[Splinter]

interesting topic, don't stop now guys.

what about osb with a fire resistant paint?

 

[69Cat]

Isn't there a PVC or some similar type of panel that looks like the ribbed steel in construction? I thought I saw it on the net once. Seemed like a good idea as the color is moulded in, it would be easy to work with, clean and wouldn't be as noisey as a steel lined interior.

I did plywood eight years ago and painted it. Cost about 25% more than drywall sheets at the time because 3/8" good-one-side plywood was pretty darn cheap in relation to drywall so was an obvious way to go at the time.

 

[Bent Nail]

It would be nice to know what your intentions are for the garage?
Do you need something with a retardant for welding?
Moisture resistance for water?

 

[yard_dawg]

magnesiacore sample jsut came in today. they sent all kind of samples ranging in differ thickness. thsi stuff looks great, but like everyone has said the price. i will be welding and water could be a factor some times. jsut trying to ponder a lot of ideas here. thsi si next pahse in my project. tahks for all the ideas here guys.

 

[ersatzs2]

Ok... This is just my corner test area. I only had time to test the material out with my nail gun. But this is the same spot from the prior "before" picture I posted.

What do you think? Can't notice the nail gun holes at all since it blends in with the patern in the magnesiacore. It should work just as well with finishng nails and a hammer.

I'll try to do more over next weekend when I have more time. Busy week at work next week. I start lots of projects around the house and never get to have enough time to finish them in one shot. Bear with me and I'll do more soon.

Dixie, I was wondering if you had finished your installation and had any more pictures? I love the idea of using this stuff but wondered what it looked like over large surface areas?

 

[v8garage]

1/2" plywood is what I am using. Of course it helps that I have a friend in the sign business that gives me all of the 1/2" sign board that he takes down when he puts up new signs. When I run out of the sign board I will finish the rest with regular 1/2" plywood painted semi gloss and then attach my metal signs to that. Eventually my whole walls will be signs out of either 1/2" plywood or signs attached to 1/2" plywood. Might not be everybodies cup of tea but I am a sign collector. Can't think of a better way to display my collection.

 

[flesburg]

I priced out magnesiacore today, and found that the 1/2 inch material which they recommend over studs and for ceiling costs $1.50 per square foot delivered to my closest skid unloading facility (my company), and that works out to a little over $50 per 4'x8' sheet.

I do not think I will use magnesiacore for interior sheeting in my garage. I believe I can get 5/8" drywall professionally installed and taped for a lot less money. (I was told under $15 per 4x8 sheet). I can buy 1/2 inch good one side plywood for about $11 per sheet.

Any others find this kind of price discrepancy? Someone earlier in this thread said they thought Magniaiacore would cost about 2 times that of drywall and about the same as drywall installed. Not based on what I have been able to determine.

What have any of you been quoted as a price for finished drywall?

 

[ron in sc]

I used 5/8" firequard drywall. Code requires it due to close proximity of garage to house.

 

[PAToyota]

Another for 5/8" firecode drywall. Also, it is somewhat impressive the difference that extra 1/8" makes as far as the material holding up. Somehow 1/2" is much easier to damage than 5/8" drywall.

 

[convx4]

I have a 30x40x11.5 pole barn. Used 1/4" OSB and fiberglass insulation for the walls and ceiling The 1/4" was was cheep and durable. It did warp and needed more mounting support than I thought. I made my own sheet rock lift from my cheery picker. This along with some scaffolding allowed me to work by my self on the ceiling.

 

[ankhman]

I just happened across the magnesiacore material since I was looking to redo my garage. I live in Houston, does this company have a retailer or distributor here in the Southwest USA? How much does a 4x8 sheet cost (without shipping)? I for one appreciate your post about the use of the product. Thanks a bunch.

 

[flesburg]

ankhman:

read about 4 posts up from yours.

Delivered to Pontiac, IL in a quantity of 400 32"x48" sheets, it is $1.50 per sq or equal to $50 per 4'x8' sheet. Pretty high priced stuff. Considering that installed taped and finished drywall is like 50c or less (depending on the drywall installer and how busy he is at the time) per sq ft in this area.

 

[shimp]

I cant believe noone has said to use corogated metal, it cost me 1350.00 to do the walls in this 36 x 40 x 14 high, they come painted and cut to size. so easy a chimp could put them up to.

this would be the best choice

 

[bluesman2a]

I cant believe noone has said to use corogated metal, it cost me 1350.00 to do the walls in this 36 x 40 x 14 high, they come painted and cut to size. so easy a chimp could put them up to.

So where does one find corrugated cut to size like this? I've checked depot and lowes and they only have like 3' wide pieces (at least on the floor). This is EXACTLY what I am looking for on my build, but I'll probably only do it up the first 4' and still put OSB behind it.

 

[bgarrett]

So where does one find corrugated cut to size like this? I've checked depot and lowes and they only have like 3' wide pieces (at least on the floor). This is EXACTLY what I am looking for on my build, but I'll probably only do it up the first 4' and still put OSB behind it.

McElroy Metals has long pieces

 

[Pure Oil]

Plywood burns. Sheetrock is made from hydrated gypsum. When you heat it it resists heat by releasing the water bound up in the gypsum. It actually sweats out water and this prevents burning far more so than any of the treated plywoods or even cement board This chemical action also helps prevent the heat from penetrating and burning the wood structure behind it.

Allright -I'd say you know your stuff - by chance did you stay at a Holiday Inn?

 

[Jaytree]

:
Originally Posted by rizzorace
I cant believe noone has said to use corogated metal, it cost me 1350.00 to do the walls in this 36 x 40 x 14 high, they come painted and cut to size. so easy a chimp could put them up to.

this would be the best choice

He said "chimp". Not "Shimp".




Still a good idea!

 

[kpendlet]

I cant believe noone has said to use corogated metal, it cost me 1350.00 to do the walls in this 36 x 40 x 14 high, they come painted and cut to size. so easy a chimp could put them up to.

This is what I have been thinking about as well - thanks for the pic. Can you tell me what metal product you used or specifics on the panels (panel width, rib height, etc.)? Your shop looks very nice. It looks like the "R-Panel" on the McElroy Metals website: http://www.mcelroymetal.com/content/products/display.cfm?product_id=24

 

[D KRAGER]

Metal Usually Comes In 3' Wide Sheets. To Get Special Lengths, Go To A Company That Uilds Pole Buildings, They Can Order The Color And Exact Length That You Need. On Inside Walls, You Can Insatll It Horizontally, So This Would Work With 16" Center Stud Construction.

As For Ceilings.... They Make A Taller Ribbed Style That Can Spam Up To 8' Between Rafters. This Also You Get Through A Pole Barn Supplier.

 

[Bad Brad777]

I'm using 7/16" OSU with a 1x4 trim against the ceiling and on the bottom...no tape on the joints. I'm painting everything with a good white latex after primer, then putting a blue strip along the top with a red and black stripe on the bottom. It is durable and will look nice.

 

[FireWrench]

F@#& it! I'm using T1-11....