What’s this machine lead/cable connector called?

[lilscorpion]

Need to make an extension cable for my powder coating gun but the MFG (Columbia Coatings) apparently doesn’t know what parts their product is made out of...so I need help.



What are these connectors called? This is a three prong, easy enough...but are the little alignment tabs proprietary (different for each MFG) or are they fairly standard? Any idea where I might be able to source them?





One more clue - a brand?



Thanks!

Matt


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[matt_i]

I would look at Sine, Amphenol, and Deutsch lineups/catalogs. Possibly Molex.

 

[cvairwerks]

Should be a connector number on either the plug or the bulkhead fitting. The keyways are not propitiatory, but are specific to the configuration. You need to know the manufacturer and the plug number to find the correct mating connector. I know the brands we use at work have probably 20 different sizes, with anywhere from one to 100 pins and up to 50 keyway configurations.

There are probably a dozen manufacturers that offer the various selections.

If you can't find a number, you would need to select a known plug and bulkhead fitting and change them over.

 

[Dustball]

You're going to have to take the connectors apart and look for part numbers.

Alternative- make your extension cable but move the existing male plug onto one end of your extension. Buy and install a new pair of male/female connectors to put on the other end of your extension and on the end of the existing gun cable.

 

[Danglerb]

Clean and easy would be to find matching connectors, there are two other options;

A) Replace the cord with a longer cord using the old connector.
B) Put the connector from this cord on one end of the extension, and a new whatever you find pair of connectors at the other end of the extension and old cord.

 

[GrantCee]

That looks very much like a D38999 connector (of which there are many sizes and variations.) This might help:

https://d38999.federalconnectors.com

 

[Phantomd]

This looks like it has the same tabs on the socket. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFM835T/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Might have to buy one of each for both the male and female cord ends though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1XCNNR/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[pi_guy]

There is a air drying plastic non conductive which I have used to make connector housing.
I have a large collection of pins m/f which I would match and create my own cable.

Otherwise I would lean on manufacturer often they use custom or oddball stuff.
logo does not look familiar.

 

[Buster21]

Why couldn't you cut the cord in the middle, then install standard male and female 110 volt electrical connectors, then you could use any length extension cord you wanted. I don't know if you want to cut your factory cord in half but just a thought.

 

[lilscorpion]

I would look at Sine, Amphenol, and Deutsch lineups/catalogs. Possibly Molex.

Chasing, thanks. These MFG’s sites ****..

 

[lilscorpion]

You're going to have to take the connectors apart and look for part numbers.

Alternative- make your extension cable but move the existing male plug onto one end of your extension. Buy and install a new pair of male/female connectors to put on the other end of your extension and on the end of the existing gun cable.

I’ll take it apart then. Didn’t know there’d be a part number inside. Thanks for the tip.

Yeah, good idea on adding a new connector in the middle. That would work well if I can’t find a match.

 

[lilscorpion]

That looks very much like a D38999 connector (of which there are many sizes and variations.) This might help:

https://d38999.federalconnectors.com

Based on the key identifiers it must not be. Mines not even close to these

 

[lilscorpion]

This looks like it has the same tabs on the socket. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFM835T/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Might have to buy one of each for both the male and female cord ends though.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1XCNNR/?tag=atomicindus08-20

So freakin close. The pin pattern is upside down..

 

[lilscorpion]

Why couldn't you cut the cord in the middle, then install standard male and female 110 volt electrical connectors, then you could use any length extension cord you wanted. I don't know if you want to cut your factory cord in half but just a thought.

I will if I can’t find a match. My brain said it would be easier if it did because then the MFG couldn’t void the warranty in the powder coating gun or power supply. Guess if I inserted a new one in the middle I could swap it back should it need to go in for service..

 

[klitzke]

This is a circular connector style. ITT cannon is the original manufacturer of the “cannon plug”. The three prong is a common plug in general aviation for reciprocating engine sensors. Make a call to your local airport and get ahold of the mechanic responsible for on field maintenance. A case of beer and a friendly chat might enlighten you some more or get you the parts you need out of the misc plug bin!

Just take the old part with to line up those tangs - everyone else is correct about the variation there.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve never had to pull one of these apart for a part number. It’s generally stamped or printed on the shell somewhere. Start with that and see if a google search of the PN gets you what you need. Be prepared to wade through a few spec sheets and take careful dimensions of your existing part! Sometimes these are not straightforward.

Keep us updated if you have PN troubles.

 

[lilscorpion]

Getting closer thanks to your help all! I’ve been able to construct a rational part number based on a schematic I found on Allied Electric’s website.

srcn6a16-3p



I called allied and they recognize it as a valid part number but not in their system (they’ve never sold one). They’re going to attempt to cross-reference it and see if there’s other options they do stock as well as contact the MfG and see If they can get it. Will know more tomorrow.

Matt

 

[CudaChick1968]

http://DelCity.com

I've found a lot of stuff for my old workhorse powder setup on there at great prices.

 

[toplessHO]

look on skycrafts website or call them.
They deal in that kinda stuff.

Im pretty close so I get spoiled with the convenience.

I hear ya on the manufacturer not knowing what parts they are made of.
I needed a similar 5 pin connector for my MIG and Metal Man had no idea who the manufacturer was.
A close up revealed the part# and I found more on ebay.

 

[toplessHO]

looks like an XLR connector

https://www.showmecables.com/xlr-3-...DnFXx-WDZonUZbBc72o0HuzSRjXB4oYBoCpJkQAvD_BwE

 

[PMT314]

Could this be it?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHF4WT1/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[lilscorpion]

looks like an XLR connector

https://www.showmecables.com/xlr-3-...DnFXx-WDZonUZbBc72o0HuzSRjXB4oYBoCpJkQAvD_BwE

Close. Has the pin config but not the reference keyways around the plug.

 

[lilscorpion]

http://DelCity.com

I've found a lot of stuff for my old workhorse powder setup on there at great prices.

Great site. Looking..

 

[lilscorpion]

Could this be it?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHF4WT1/?tag=atomicindus08-20

That looks identical. Checking the specs now...

Edit: thread diameter is right, thread pitch is right. Not sure on pin size but at $10 I ordered one and will find out by trial and error. Nice find!

 

[lilscorpion]

Theses JAR connectors were recommended and they’re nearly identical but they’re too small. I’m certain I need this part number

SRCN6A21-3p and SRCN2A21-3s

JAE shoes the same thing I found before - the spec is possible but no item in their catalog that’s available. Still looking.



Here’s the additional info that came on the parts

 

[lilscorpion]

Off of the various numbers on the packages, I’ve figured out that WSU Aviation connectors appear to be very similar. It isn’t clear yet I’d the threads are the same diameter - they appear to be 20mm vs 21mm. All of what I’m finding are made in Japan or China and for whatever reason, this size in a 3-pin is super rare in the US.

 

[lilscorpion]

Ordered one, we’ll see

 

[jeepinerdeep]

Pretty soon you'll have enough parts on hand to make it whatever you want it to be!

 

[lilscorpion]

Pretty soon you'll have enough parts on hand to make it whatever you want it to be!

I know, silly it does seem. One of two things will happen - I’ll either figure it out and get the right connectors, or I’ll give up when I have a couple of choices for replacing everything. I don’t really want to void my warranty so my preference is to figure it out. [emoji16]

 

[CudaChick1968]

Did you know Columbia has a repair service (or at least used to)? Give Brian a call and he might be able to help over the phone.

 

[lilscorpion]

Did you know Columbia has a repair service (or at least used to)? Give Brian a call and he might be able to help over the phone.

I called them and they guy I talked to said they don’t have parts for the gun, part numbers, or even know what the connectors were called. He even checked with the techs.

No I suspect he’s full of ****. If he isn’t though, that doesn’t say much for the knowledge of their product or ability to fix pieces or parts. Guess you’d have to buy a new gun if you damaged one of the pins?!

 

[CudaChick1968]

Bummer.

Buying a new setup from them was the true reason I found the repair parts for my old workhorse. I was not impressed; it was on the way back to them the next day.

 

[Dustball]

I called them and they guy I talked to said they don’t have parts for the gun, part numbers, or even know what the connectors were called. He even checked with the techs.

No I suspect he’s full of ****. If he isn’t though, that doesn’t say much for the knowledge of their product or ability to fix pieces or parts. Guess you’d have to buy a new gun?!?

Most likely they have an outside manufacturer build their products and all they do is just put their name on the products and sell them.

 

[lilscorpion]

Bummer.

Buying a new setup from them was the true reason I found the repair parts for my old workhorse. I was not impressed; it was on the way back to them the next day.

With limited experience coating, and nothing to compare to, I can say the unit I have from them works well. Wish there was a way to demo units. I would have liked to be able to try a few different brands before diving in.

 

[lilscorpion]

Score...freakin’ Amazon actually had it prime. Now what aim I gonna do with the other 2 I’ll get 2 months from now when they make it all the way from China?!

 

[Danglerb]

Weipu WS20 first search turned up $8.95 shipped from China on ebay. I did find this neat chart though;

Meh, file too large, here is link
https://www.ebay.com/itm/402196473868

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zOMAAOSwlcZefbbP/s-l1600.jpg