When you own a mill...

[gte718p]

Every problem seems like it would be better machined.

The line for my dishwasher has been hanging loose since I bought my hand. I was afraid that as it moved around a joint would eventually fatigue and fail. Instead of buying a $.50 piece I decided to mill a new bracket out of aluminum.

 

[rsanter]

Yup...I have over done a few things on my mill....just cuz a have a mill

Bob

 

[e3pres]

I don't have a mill, but I tend to throw alot of things on the lathe. Until I bought one, I don't think I ever needed it. I guess it is true what they say: when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

lol

 

[McBrownie]

That is overkill, but cool! Wish I had a mill. You might want to wrap the pipe with a thin piece of plastic to avoid any galvanic corrosion.

http://www.nachi.org/galvanic-corrosion.htm

 

[Ohmthis]

When you own a mill.....you show the rest of us how much MORE we want one. Great job on the clamp. Also, you just provided an excellent answer to "Why do you need this mill thing?".

 

[mburrus]

i will second the comment on galvanic action. copper and aluminum are not good buddies.

 

[Muggzy]

What mill have you got? I'm trying to find a mill that my Robotics Team can afford. I have zero experience but would like to get something that has (or can be up graded with) cnc.


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[koviack]

are you worried about galvanic corrosion?

 

[zmaxmotorsports]

You forgot to put a radius in the outside piece to match the copper its supporting!
Id be more worried about the copper vibrating and being sawed through by the aluminum than galvanic issues.

 

[kazlx]

Nice job, but like mentioned, you should isolate them somehow. Just cut a piece of inner tube or something. They will interact...especially with flowing water....

 

[fnieto]

The use of a mill or lathe for simple household fixes such as OP's is really just about opportunity to use a machine. Many good practicing comes from simple projects.

Just wrap some electrical tape around the copper and call it good.

 

[zmotorsports]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Having a mill just to machine cool stuff that no one will ever see?

Seems a bit overkill to me.

Mike.

 

[realsteel34]

Indeed....I could not exist without my Index 745

 

[gte718p]

What mill have you got? I'm trying to find a mill that my Robotics Team can afford. I have zero experience but would like to get something that has (or can be up graded with) cnc.

It is just a round column Rung Fu 31. Not the best, but small and cheap. I would love to have a bridgeport, but I don't have the space or the power to run one.
I'm in the process of doing the CNC upgraded. Unfortunately I had a deployment that mess up the timeline.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272009

are you worried about galvanic corrosion?

You forgot to put a radius in the outside piece to match the copper its supporting!
Id be more worried about the copper vibrating and being sawed through by the aluminum than galvanic issues.

I'm not particularly worried about galvanic corrosion. No more then if I used a standard pipe hanger. I am more worried about the vibration issues. I probably will go back and insulate it though.

 

[gte718p]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Having a mill just to machine cool stuff that no one will ever see?

Seems a bit overkill to me.

Mike.

95% of the things I make will never be seen. Designing and building cool stuff is the reward in itself.

 

[gorilla]

It is just a round column Rung Fu 31. Not the best, but small and cheap. I would love to have a bridgeport, but I don't have the space or the power to run one.
I'm in the process of doing the CNC upgraded. Unfortunately I had a deployment that mess up the timeline.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=272009







I'm not particularly worried about galvanic corrosion. No more then if I used a standard pipe hanger. I am more worried about the vibration issues. I probably will go back and insulate it though.

Standard pipe hangers for copper pipe have a plastic insert.

 

[zmotorsports]

95% of the things I make will never be seen. Designing and building cool stuff is the reward in itself.

Oh trust me, I get it. I was being sarcastic. If you look at my shop projects thread, my coach build thread, my sandrail/sand quads build thread, my Jeep build thread or any of the work on my Harleys you will see I am the same way.

Overkill is under-rated.

Mike.

 

[rodsnratfinks]

So jealous... I love overbuilt things.

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[sanddan]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Having a mill just to machine cool stuff that no one will ever see?

Seems a bit overkill to me.

Mike.

But you'll know it there, that's the important thing.

 

[sanddan]

Overkill is under-rated.

Mike.

That would make a good tee shirt quote.

 

[Capt Chrysler]

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Having a mill just to machine cool stuff that no one will ever see?

Seems a bit overkill to me.

Mike.

Guess you have never spent hours under a dash of a Hotrod, just so the wires lay just right.

Capt. Chrysler

 

[zkling]

Perfect $200 solution to a $2 problem. Having a machine shop in the garage is so handy isn't it?

Oh trust me, I get it. I was being sarcastic. If you look at my shop projects thread, my coach build thread, my sandrail/sand quads build thread, my Jeep build thread or any of the work on my Harleys you will see I am the same way.

Overkill is under-rated.

Mike.

Well, there is overkill and then there is under-engineered, which can fall both ways. The later is just wasteful and can complicate the device.

 

[gte718p]

Perfect $200 solution to a $2 problem. Having a machine shop in the garage is so handy isn't it?

Yup, but that is the American way.

It reminds me of my favorite NASA quote/Meme. In the 60's NASA spent nearly 5 million dollars developing a pressurized pen that would work on the ground, in the vacuum of space, in preserved zero gravity, and survive the forces of reentry. What they designed is a marvel of engineering. The Russians used a pencil.

 

[DocsMachine]

It reminds me of my favorite NASA quote/Meme. In the 60's NASA spent nearly 5 million dollars developing a pressurized pen that would work on the ground, in the vacuum of space, in preserved zero gravity, and survive the forces of reentry. What they designed is a marvel of engineering. The Russians used a pencil.

-Which is, of course, not true.

Pencils require sharpening, and often break a tip off, all of which produces debris which floats around. Graphite tips are conductive, which is a bad thing in an electronics-packed capsule.

And even still, no, NASA didn't spend five million developing a pen. The closest to that was the guy that developed the Fisher Space Pen- he did indeed spend a chunk of his own money developing it, but then he sold them to NASA at normal retail prices.

But hey.

Doc.

 

[gte718p]

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

The Russians did use pencils. That much is true. Seen the video. The government still pays stupid money for those fisher pens.

 

[DocsMachine]

Certainly, both the US and the Russians used pencils early on, but the hazards were also well known early on. Manufacturer Paul Fisher heard about said problems, and since he was already in the business of making high-quality refill cartridges, developed a complete pen and sent samples to NASA for testing.

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

As for "stupid money", he sold the initial pens to NASA for $2.95 each. That's the equivalent of about $23 today. Not Bic prices, but hardly a $600 toilet seat either.

And you can still buy the "space pen" direct from Fisher, for $58. I agree that's a bit much for a pen, but hardly 'stupid' money.

Doc.

 

[2oolhound]

One of the other spin offs of doing something like the op's project is you don't have to leave home. Sure you can jump in the truck, drive to the hardware store, risk getting a parking ticket, possibly bring the wrong size home, etc etc. It's so much nicer when you don't have to go anywhere and you can solve these problems in a satisfying way.

 

[gte718p]

Certainly, both the US and the Russians used pencils early on, but the hazards were also well known early on. Manufacturer Paul Fisher heard about said problems, and since he was already in the business of making high-quality refill cartridges, developed a complete pen and sent samples to NASA for testing.

http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

As for "stupid money", he sold the initial pens to NASA for $2.95 each. That's the equivalent of about $23 today. Not Bic prices, but hardly a $600 toilet seat either.

And you can still buy the "space pen" direct from Fisher, for $58. I agree that's a bit much for a pen, but hardly 'stupid' money.

Doc.

I believe last time I saw them in the GSA catalog they were closer to $90, even though you could buy them in the exchange for $60. They are also really not that good of pens. They used to be very popular in the Navy, but the Write in Rain brand has sort of moved in and displaced the space pen.

 

[Willie Makeit]

where the hell are you guys shopping that have the pens for $60? you can buy them all day long for $16 shipped off amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000095K9D/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Kevin54]

Why build stuff that no one will see hardly ever.......Because you can!!!!!!

No better satisfaction than going to the garage, fire up the mill, and make a needed part that you can't find exactly what you need at the hardware store.

 

[sanddan]

One of the other spin offs of doing something like the op's project is you don't have to leave home. Sure you can jump in the truck, drive to the hardware store, risk getting a parking ticket, possibly bring the wrong size home, etc etc. It's so much nicer when you don't have to go anywhere and you can solve these problems in a satisfying way.

This is reason enough for me.

 

[DCarr]

I have a very good friend that had the stopper in his sink break, so instead of bying one for 3.50 $ he spent 5 hrs on his mill and lathe and made one.

 

[zmotorsports]

Why build stuff that no one will see hardly ever.......Because you can!!!!!!

No better satisfaction than going to the garage, fire up the mill, and make a needed part that you can't find exactly what you need at the hardware store.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

I machined a small dial/knob for a medical machine of my wife's. Could have cost me a few bucks to replace it. However, half an hour in the shop turning, facing, knurling and then in the mill for a few flats and a lockscrew. $15k dollars worth of equipment to make a couple dollar knob. Money well spent if you ask me. I told my wife she has the only one like it, guaranteed.

Mike.

 

[bmxdad]

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.
I machined a small dial/knob for a medical machine of my wife's. Could have cost me a few bucks to replace it. ....

I want a mill and lathe, because of the parts I can't find anymore ... or cost more then I want to spend. Besides, having worked in machine shops almost half my life ... I kind of miss cutting metal.

 

[bczygan]

Um.......that needs a plastic bushing, so you need a lathe.

And the finish isn't good enough, so where's your grinder and buffing setup?

 

[gte718p]

Um.......that needs a plastic bushing, so you need a lathe.

And the finish isn't good enough, so where's your grinder and buffing setup?

Looking for the lathe. Or complete the CNC project and mill round objects. Or just get a rotary table.. So many options.

Have the grinder and buffing setup, it just wasn't important enough to polish. I should have actually looked up the feed rates for 6061 instead of just winging it.

 

[Lassen Forge]

I machined a small dial/knob for a medical machine of my wife's. Could have cost me a few bucks to replace it. However, half an hour in the shop turning, facing, knurling and then in the mill for a few flats and a lockscrew. $15k dollars worth of equipment to make a couple dollar knob. Money well spent if you ask me. I told my wife she has the only one like it, guaranteed.

The best part is you didn't have to spend the time looking up the part, ordering it, paying for it, then waiting for it to be delivered. 30 minutes and you're done, the part is a custom, probably fits better than the original, and if somehow (unlikely) it breaks or falls off and gets lost... you can build a new one.

 

[bullnerd]

I worked at the place that makes all the lottery machines you see on tv.

We had a mill but no lathe and I needed an accurately turned part for a new prototype machine.

Stuck the part in a collet and hung a piece of high speed out of the vice and boom! Instant lathe. Part came out great. The bosses where amazed.

 

[gorilla]

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

I machined a small dial/knob for a medical machine of my wife's. Could have cost me a few bucks to replace it. However, half an hour in the shop turning, facing, knurling and then in the mill for a few flats and a lockscrew. $15k dollars worth of equipment to make a couple dollar knob. Money well spent if you ask me. I told my wife she has the only one like it, guaranteed.

Mike.

In my professional life I've made parts that are still circling the earth. More hot rod car parts and bike parts than i can remember. What impressed my wife the most? The new knob for her crock pot lid.

 

[zmotorsports]

In my professional life I've made parts that are still circling the earth. More hot rod car parts and bike parts than i can remember. What impressed my wife the most? The new knob for her crock pot lid.

Ya, funny how that works isn't it?

Mike.