Where is the M12 Fuel Insider Ratchet Thread?

[ChevyEFI]

I just need to know wtf hex size is used on the amvil(s) / sockets.

Thanks.

 

[GeoBruin]

I just need to know wtf hex size is used on the amvil(s) / sockets.

Thanks.

I'd like to know as well. I'm also curious about the compatibility of the various available low profile sockets out there.

 

[Torque Test Channel]

We should have one within the next week or so. I already know they dont fit Nano socket hexes. But i'm curious about size as well, and if it will fit DeWALT's new pass through style sealed head ratchet.

 

[ChevyEFI]

I think they released to social media persons before releasing in stores.

I would be interested if the Astro nano 3/8" sockets fit (17) but there's no way it's big enough for the 1/2" sockets (22mm)

 

[ChevyEFI]

Thanks TTC. So not 17 and not 22? Got it.

It needs added to the passthrough socket compatibility thread.

 

[InjectorService]

I think this is such a useless tool. Or at least it has a very limited use. You can use a Nano socket on a 3/8" high speed ratchet and be nearly the same height as this thing with special sockets.

 

[Rickster]

You're missing the big draw.... extended reach, 1/4 dr insert, 3/8 dr insert and a hex bit insert too I believe. I can buy one ratchet and use everything.

 

[dnschmidt]

My view is a solution looking for a problem. Makita's had the interchangeable drive thing in their electric ratchet for years now and nobody buys it.

 

[ChevyEFI]

My view is a solution looking for a problem. Makita's had the interchangeable drive thing in their electric ratchet for years now and nobody buys it.

Everyone in marketing has their right hand extended to the guy next to them, trying to make it unique and marketable. So far, I see a unique 2.5 ah battery size, a length negligibly longer than the similar extended options they make, a beefy dual pawl design the jury is out on, and a mysteriously unaddressed drive size. Can't imagine why the YouTube shills haven't just said what size / variation of triple pentagon the proprietary sockets are. What's next, Ryan getting asked by Mwkee USA to moderate new posts that might let the geometry out of the bag? oh Noes!

 

[merkyworks]

Everyone in marketing has their right hand extended to the guy next to them, trying to make it unique and marketable. So far, I see a unique 2.5 ah battery size, a length negligibly longer than the similar extended options they make, a beefy dual panel design the jury is out on, and a mysteriously unaddressed drive size. Can't imagine why the YouTube shills haven't just said what size / variation of triple pentagon the proprietary sockets are. What's next, Ryan getting asked by Mwkee USA to moderate new posts that might let the geometry out of the bag? oh Noes!

spicy son

 

[dnschmidt]

The only purpose I can find is to increase the number of sockets sold. Other than that this is a non-starter.

 

[2ndGearRubber]

I like the switch location.

My issue with the product is that I don't "think" in a way that I feel would justify buying one. While it does offer enhanced access, I don't find myself using low profile sockets I currently own on my 1/4 long neck M12. Typically I don't even use shallow sockets on the m12. On the snap on 3/8 I do use low profile sockets, but only to deal with issues of head thickness backing to tool into a bind.

For instance, imagine you're working on the front of an engine. The body of the tool is as thick as the head using the insider low profile sockets. So while this does gain you additional access, your limiting factor is the tool body itself. You cannot lay the tool down flat on the work piece, so I'm not sure there's as much gained access as your mind initially sees.

I thought about buying one. Still pretty lukewarm on it for now. I certainly will give credit where it is due for being clever. I think this tool would hold more promise for the user that doesn't already have an m12 ratchet. Thus the additional pass thru advantages are an add on to sticking the drive adapter in there and having it be a regular ratchet.

 

[Torque Test Channel]

14mm outside hex (14.1mm to be exact). DeWALT's is 16mm

 

[assassin10000]

I like the switch location.

My issue with the product is that I don't "think" in a way that I feel would justify buying one. While it does offer enhanced access, I don't find myself using low profile sockets I currently own on my 1/4 long neck M12. Typically I don't even use shallow sockets on the m12. On the snap on 3/8 I do use low profile sockets, but only to deal with issues of head thickness backing to tool into a bind.

For instance, imagine you're working on the front of an engine. The body of the tool is as thick as the head using the insider low profile sockets. So while this does gain you additional access, your limiting factor is the tool body itself. You cannot lay the tool down flat on the work piece, so I'm not sure there's as much gained access as your mind initially sees.

I thought about buying one. Still pretty lukewarm on it for now. I certainly will give credit where it is due for being clever. I think this tool would hold more promise for the user that doesn't already have an m12 ratchet. Thus the additional pass thru advantages are an add on to sticking the drive adapter in there and having it be a regular ratchet.

I'm kind of in the same boat thought wise. Although I haven't bought any of the long neck ratchets (yet).

Also wondering how annoying using the adapters with sockets will be. IE: will I be pulling the adapter out of the ratchet trying to switch sockets/bits.

 

[Torque Test Channel]

Also wondering how annoying using the adapters with sockets will be. IE: will I be pulling the adapter out of the ratchet trying to switch sockets/bits.

Verdict is: VERY annoying. Props to you for figuring out this pitfall before having one whereas it took us continually just doing it on accident

Edit: The DeWALT pass through sealed head ratchet thing doesnt do this at all.

 

[WWheeler]

The only purpose I can find is to increase the number of sockets sold. Other than that this is a non-starter.

The draw I see for it is it's a lot more compact and can fit tighter places than any of the 6 cordless ratchets I already have AND be able to slide over a stud. Too bad it won't work with my Astro Nanos though. That's what I was waiting to find out. That would have put it squarely on my 'going to buy soon' list.

If they use a 14mm hex that makes their passthru sockets completely proprietary and this ratchet won't work with anything else AFAIK. And if they won't be selling individual sizes, and larger and smaller sizes than come in their sets that's pushing it back well into 'probably won't ever buy' territory.

 

[assassin10000]

Verdict is: VERY annoying. Props to you for figuring out this pitfall before having one whereas it took us continually just doing it on accident

Edit: The DeWALT pass through sealed head ratchet thing doesnt do this at all.

Might have to drill & tap the adapters then. And use a washer and countersunk allen to retain it.

 

[ChevyEFI]

I wanted to have smooth bolt heads on a fence and used the wrong (carriage bolt slotted at thread end) fasteners to do it.

If I had this tool, would the pass thru opening size have helped? What's the i.d.?