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nicholasbailey1993

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I've got a 13" south bend lathe and a Tree 9x42 mill. They're really handy to have on the farm. we can just make the pieces without having to wait around and order things.
 
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tdkkart

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Picked up this Clausing 12x36 off Ebay a couple weeks ago, in the process of cleaning it up to replace the Atlas listed earlier in this thread.

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After a bit of cleaning,fixing, and a few additions it's finally in place and ready to work:
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A_Pmech

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Looks good! Make sure the quick change selector lever bushing is in good condition with minimal play. When worn, it is possible to select more than one gear in the quick-change box simultaneously. The result is stripped teeth on one or more of the gears.

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After a bit of cleaning,fixing, and a few additions it's finally in place and ready to work:
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Looks good! Make sure the quick change selector lever bushing is in good condition with minimal play. When worn, it is possible to select more than one gear in the quick-change box simultaneously. The result is stripped teeth on one or more of the gears.

Good tip, I'll double check/take a closer look. The entire lathe is pretty tight with very little wear. The quick change box is kind of a poor design on these, open on the bottom with no permanent lube. Bad idea for something that pretty much runs all the time the lathe is running.

Is that a DRO? Nice,

Yep, I've gotten spoiled I suppose with the machines at work and the 3-axis DRO on my mill that sits just to the left of the lathe. Unlike everything else in the machining world, DRO's have really come down in price the last few years. This unit cost me $435 from thedrostore.com. Once you've come to know your machine and DRO you can do most general machining without hardly getting the measuring tools out of the drawer. Well worth the investment IMO.

Here's another angle:
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Zengineer

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Mines coming along... here it is being lowered to the ground of the pallet it was on.

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1952 Pratt & Whitney Model C, 12x36. No longer looking like a John Deere advertisement. (it was painted green and yellow)
 

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That whole DRO business is new to me, but after reading about it, they sound like real time savers. Heck two or three quality calipers cost as much as that whole machine.
 

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I'll be picking up this beauty within the next couple weeks. Can't wait! It's in perfect shape, and has a good history having been owned by the best friend of a relative who recently passed away. It sits on a very nice Mac cabinet and has tons of tooling with it. I'm sure I'll have lots of questions when I get it up and running... just glad I'll be able to take care of it and hopefully it's still in as good a shape when I pass it on to my son in the far distant future.
 

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joshuaz223

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i have two lathes a SB 10k and a clausing 14". i got the southbend years ago and struggled with it. never really liked it and looked for something else. operated other SBs and didn't like them either. i finally got the clausing and couldn't be happier. since buying the clausing i haven't used the SB at all.

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I have three - A Clausing just like the one above - replaced the vari-drive with a 3HP motor and VFD for speed control. This is how it was delivered to me - pretty dirty - came with a bunch of accessories.

2nd one is a mint 9" South Bend lathe. I purchased this at a garage sale and the guy that bought it new never used it (well maybe a few hundred hours). This still have the original "icing" on the ways even close to the headstock. This also had plenty of attachments.

3rd is a Boley Jeweler's lathe with collets, chucks, and compound. I don't have any pictures of that lathe.

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I picked up a real clean Craftsman 6" x 18" between centers, lathe today. A little smaller than what I wanted but will come in real handy. And in doing so, I may have just found myself a real clean mill for a real decent price. The guy has two mills and will be selling one. Hopefully I'll have it in my possession before long. The lathe is way cleaner than what it looks like in the pics. Like I said before, machinery is hard to find around here unless you pay an arm and a leg for it or have to drive a couple of hundred miles.

Anyways, here are the pics of the lathe that was on CL. I've got to get it out of the truck yet as it's mounted on a table. Just didn't feel like unloading today. It is 110v, has 2 jaw chuck, 3 jaw chuck, live centers and some other tooling.
 

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Mines coming along... here it is being lowered to the ground of the pallet it was on.

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1952 Pratt & Whitney Model C, 12x36. No longer looking like a John Deere advertisement. (it was painted green and yellow)

That's a 12x36? Damn that looks like a monster compared to my atlas 12x36. That's a nice looking piece of machinery you got there.
 

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Thought I`d throw this up.
It`s a Microcut 14/40.
I think it`s early to mid 80`s model , made in Taiwan.
I`ve had it for about 12 years and it has served me well. However its starting to show its age. Sometime soon I will strip it down to replace the gibs, lead screws and nuts in the cross and compond slides. Also the main spindle seal and a few other seals need to be replaced.

You would not think that last week I cleaned it from top to bottom, changed the coolent and topped up the oils. Three nights in the shed and there`s sworf everywhere again.

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I've always wondered about left hand lathes, I don't see them too often. Are you left handed & do you actually use it as a left handed person? Just curious.
 

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I've always wondered about left hand lathes, I don't see them too often. Are you left handed & do you actually use it as a left handed person? Just curious.

That's a removable gap-bed lathe. Gap-bed lathes generally have the traverse mechanism on the right side of the carriage because the bed rack ends at the gap.
 

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That's a removable gap-bed lathe. Gap-bed lathes generally have the traverse mechanism on the right side of the carriage because the bed rack ends at the gap.

I have a common design 12x36 Chinese lathe. It also has a removable gap and the halfnut lever & threading dial is on the right. All the ones I've seen marketed for the US are like that. I have noticed models marketed for Asia & Europe that have the carriage wheel on the right like above. The only American iron lathes I've seen in person were in shop class which were Logans, LeBlondes, a Rockwell, a Pacemaker, & a Hardinge. A few of them were gap lathes but I don't recall ever using one with the half nut lever & threading dial on the left & carriage wheel on the right. I always thought those where left handed lathes & could of sworn people have referred to them as that too?
 
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A_Pmech

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Lathes with the carriage handwheel on the right and half nut lever on the left are often jokingly referred to as "left handers", but there's no such thing. The location of the controls is solely for mechanical convenience in construction of the carriage drive gearing, to prevent the carriage drive pinion from overrunning the bed rack.

I have a common design 12x36 Chinese lathe. It also has a removable gap and the halfnut lever & threading dial is on the right. All the ones I've seen marketed for the US are like that. I have noticed models marketed for Asia & Europe that have the carriage wheel on the right like above. The only American iron lathes I've seen in person were in shop class which were Logans, LeBlondes, a Rockwell, a Pacemaker, & a Hardinge. A few of them were gap lathes but I don't recall ever using one with the half nut lever & threading dial on the left & carriage wheel on the right. I always thought those where left handed lathes & could of sworn people have referred to them as that too?
 

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I am hoping to finish the restoration of my 1945 Logan 820 today. I will post a link of the restoration process when the lathe is re-assembled.
 
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bts

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I've always wondered about left hand lathes, I don't see them too often. Are you left handed & do you actually use it as a left handed person? Just curious.

No, not left handed thats just the way the machine is.

As mentioned before most gap bed lathes do have right hand carrige controls.
I cannot remember but I think the only left hand carrage wheel I have used was early US made small lathes.
It does not really matter to me weather the lathe is a lefty or a righty I just use them.

If, for one reason only I showed a preferance it would be for the right hand operating the carrage with the left hand on the cross feed. It postions you more behind the carrage which is better if your using coolent close to the chuck. You don`t get coverd in as much coolent .

I actually had the gap out of the bed for the first time a couple of months ago. Making a new table for the drill press.

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I am lucky enough to have access to a "club" lathe. It is made by TORSHALLA here in mid Sweden and is about 50 years old.
It comes from an industry lab and has not been used very much. It is amazingly accurate. With the right skills, attitude and tooling you can machine parts with an accuracy of less than 0,01 mm.
I attach a picture of the lathe and some pics of FUTURLINER electric motor shaft seals that I had to modify to modern shaft seals using aluminum adapters.

best regards

Ola
 

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Just a word of advice for anyone looking for a small hobby lathe like the Craftsman/Atlas like I just purchased.....Make SURE the handle for the cross slide is not broken. I bought mine with a portion of the handle broke off. No big deal right? WRONG!!!!!!! That little bastage is $144.00 from Sears. :shocking: Some guy is selling castings for them at over $100.

I ended up buying a complete Carriage with all of the handles off of Ebay for less than half the price. I would have never though that the smaller the handle the higher the price.:eyecrazy:

So I just wanted to forewarn a few if they happen to run across a small lathe they are looking at. Carry on!!!
 

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I would have dug around on Grizzly, Enco, etc before I paid that much for a handle. Griz and Eco carry several handles.
 

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I just came across this gem, the price seems high but considering it has never been used it is pretty impressive.

New Old Stock http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/2957075200.html

That IS a lot of money for that lathe, but then again, I doubt there's another anywhere in that condition. It is a catch-22. You can buy a pretty high-end used lathe for $3000, or you can have a 50+ year old brand new one.
 

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Agree, Ravenous and Steevo. That is a sweet machine and in perfect condition. Much better quality than the plastic covers offered today. Price seems a little high, but a 36x12" lathe is not bech top hobby lathe.

Justin, Nice work on the restore. Man, there are a lot of gears in there to keep track of.
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How old is that Logan?
 

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Just a word of advice for anyone looking for a small hobby lathe like the Craftsman/Atlas like I just purchased.....Make SURE the handle for the cross slide is not broken. I bought mine with a portion of the handle broke off. No big deal right? WRONG!!!!!!! That little bastage is $144.00 from Sears. :shocking: Some guy is selling castings for them at over $100.

I ended up buying a complete Carriage with all of the handles off of Ebay for less than half the price. I would have never though that the smaller the handle the higher the price.:eyecrazy:

So I just wanted to forewarn a few if they happen to run across a small lathe they are looking at. Carry on!!!

Couldn't you just make a new handle? It is a LATHE after all :lol_hitti
 

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Thanks for the compliments.

I came across the lathe via a Craigslist wanted ad. I was in the process of restoring a South Bend 9A when I had a difficult time acquiring a countershaft assembly that did not cost me my first born. I put out an ad that stated, more or less, machinery and machinist tools wanted. A very nice gentlemen that lived in the middle of nowhere Oregon (Beatty, for those that live on the East Coast, google map that local if you want to see remote) said that he had a Logan 820 for $650. For my area of the country, beggars can't be choosers, and it was a fair price. The restoration took a little longer than I hoped, but I am still married, so that is a win - win.

As far as the gears, and everything else for that matter, I tried my best to keep everything organized / chronological as I stripped and cleaned all of the components. My advise for anyone who takes on these kind of projects is:

TAKE YOUR TIME, THINK AHEAD, and ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE, ORGANIZE!!!!!!

The first chips I ever made on a metal lathe are in the last picture in the album. I still have a few bugs to work out, but the machine does function. I have very little mechanical inclination, so if I can do it, anyone can.

The year of manufacture is 1945, so I am pretty sure that the lathe did very little, if any, contributing to the war effort. I really want a lathe that I can prove helped win WWII.
 

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The year of manufacture is 1945, so I am pretty sure that the lathe did very little, if any, contributing to the war effort. I really want a lathe that I can prove helped win WWII.

Sounds like you want a "War Finish" machine.

Any machine with a War Production Board tag would have been used directly for the war effort.
 

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Sounds like you want a "War Finish" machine.

Any machine with a War Production Board tag would have been used directly for the war effort.

That is exactly what I want. I had a chance to buy South Bend 9C in a town about 90 miles away that was a "war finish" machine, but my wife would shoot me if I purchase another lathe at this time.
 

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I have a South Bend Heavy 10 - year 1947...great investment!! Little drill/mill also shown - Arboga EM825 from Sweden. I was still in the process of setting up shop when pic taken...
 

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