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mikegt4

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I brought this one home recently. It's a Weiler Matador, a high quality 12 x 20 German toolroom lathe. It had been on CL for about a week when I called. It came with 3 chucks, complete gear change set, 5C collet closer (but no collets), Aloris toolpost and tool holders. 18 spindle speeds from 30 to 3550 rpm. It can do inch, metric, diametrical and module thread types. It is a bit cosmetically challenged but it's tight and smooth running.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/weiler/
The Matador is basically a short bed version of the Condor.
 

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Nothing special, but its paid for, and I think I got enough accessories, and tooling to do almost anything I need. I even turned down a 230mm VW flywheel on it last week...

Its the 13X40 from HF, I installed a Sinpo DRO, and an import wedge type toolpost.

I use it almost every day.
I also have the benchtop knee mill from HF, its OK, but I would really like to upgrade to a larger capacity mill, that would also have a DRO on it. I'm keeping an eye on the local classifieds. I am saving up to buy a 7X14 bandsaw with coolant & hydraulic feed, that will be nice to have. I should be able to pick one up before X-Mas.

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I brought this one home recently. It's a Weiler Matador, a high quality 12 x 20 German toolroom lathe. It had been on CL for about a week when I called. It came with 3 chucks, complete gear change set, 5C collet closer (but no collets), Aloris toolpost and tool holders. 18 spindle speeds from 30 to 3550 rpm. It can do inch, metric, diametrical and module thread types. It is a bit cosmetically challenged but it's tight and smooth running.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/weiler/
The Matador is basically a short bed version of the Condor.

Really heavy-looking nice lathe. Congrats on getting it. The cosmetic is nothing. Maybe a little touch up here and there and that's it.

Nelson
 

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Lathes!! I love lathes!!

It started out innocently enough … an old farm tractor brought back from the fence row. Then another … and another. Then, a few machine tools to make the restoration work more interesting … and, towards that end, I’ve ended up with two lathes and several other machine tools. The current flagship of my small fleet is a Hendey General Purpose No. 1 x 30 (12” x 30” btc) lathe.

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This lathe was built in 1954 and originally sold to the Babcock & Wilcox company in Barberton, Oh. It has a 12” swing and is 30” between centers. This thing is a beast! It is incredibly heavy and smooth as silk to run. The following photos were taken the day it arrived in my garage and it looks rough, but is really in very good mechanical condition. I paid $800 for it and that included a 3-jaw chuck and a Sjorgren collet chuck with collets. I use it to make the odd bushing now and then, bore out miscellaneous gears, pulleys, etc., and make miscellaneous parts for whatever project needs a unique piece or two.

Could I get along without it? Sure, but my projects would be a whole lot less fun!

All went well with this Hendey until I stumbled onto another lathe that was one day from the scrapper! And although I’ve never come even close to reaching the capacity of the Hendey lathe, I suffer from “iron disease” and lusted after a bigger machine to “save”.

Through an odd series of “lucky” circumstances I ended up buying (for what I thought was a reasonable $900 price) a 17” x 8’ bed LeBlond Regal (slightly over 18” actual swing and about 56” btc). The lathe was in nice condition and came with some extras ... taper attachment, steady rest, micrometer stop, Aloris tool post, 3-jaw chuck, spindle clutch and a 5 drawer tool cabinet full of stuff. Ways looked good and carriage feeds are snug. Again, pics were taken the day it arrived “home”.

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This LeBlond is currently sitting along the wall of the workshop and has not yet been set up … another project for another day!

I guess that I’ve gone a long way to say that a lathe is a great tool to have and if you enjoy machine work you will never regret buying one ... and if you pay a reasonable price you can easily resell it later. The important thing to note … as you can see from my two purchases … is to shop around!! In the Northeast old lathes are plentiful and relatively inexpensive, but out West, I’ll bet they are scarce and expensive. MOST IMPORTANT, make sure you educate yourself on how to evaluate an old lathe before making a purchase … many of them are worn out and are JUNK.

The small South Bends, and comparable Logans, are usually in high demand because their smaller size is great for a home shop. But if you have the space, the larger lathes are often a much better deal (but usually have 3-phase motors). And don’t overlook the cost of tooling … this can add up real fast! So, if you can find a lathe with lots of tooling and accessories it will be far more desirable than just a bare machine … and this can, of course, significantly impact cost.

My greatgrandfather worked for B&W as a carpenter. His name was W.C. Brothers. I have some of his tools and his handmade tool box he made from wormy American Chestnut. It is a centerpiece in our living room. Great guy. When I was 12 he gave me his Winchester single shot .22 with peep sights and it will pass down to his Great,great, great, great grandson, Malachi. :thumbup::thumbup:
 

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My greatgrandfather worked for B&W as a carpenter. His name was W.C. Brothers. I have some of his tools and his handmade tool box he made from wormy American Chestnut. It is a centerpiece in our living room. Great guy. When I was 12 he gave me his Winchester single shot .22 with peep sights and it will pass down to his Great,great, great, great grandson, Malachi. :thumbup::thumbup:

Great way to pass on a family heirloom! An old rifle that belonged to an ancient grandfather will be one of his prize possessions. And some of those old wooden toolboxes are truly works of art.

The B&W Stirling Ave. works in Barberton, Ohio, was an astounding sight to see! Huge horizontal and vertical lathes, vertical mills, rolls, welding equipment .... it went on and on ... and I've NEVER seen anything as cool as the pierce and draw bench used to make boiler headers!!! I worked for B&W for 10 years and loved every minute of it!
 

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My second lathe. A Mori manual. Smooth, quiet, and big enough that it sucked getting it through a one car garage door. Wish it didnt take up so much floor space (kinda).
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Been gathering Aloris CA tool holders For some time now so I don't have to swap the bars out so often if ever...and a few chucks for good measure.
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Haven't used it that much lately but have had moments in time where it runs all weekend. Very happy to have one when the project calls.
 
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Scorpion....how do you clean behind the lathe or keep chips from going back behind it with it being tucked up under the cabinets?

Nice lathe though. That should last your lifetime and then some.
 

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Scorpion....how do you clean behind the lathe or keep chips from going back behind it with it being tucked up under the cabinets?

Nice lathe though. That should last your lifetime and then some.

Well...um...[kidding]. There's just less than a foot between the lathe and the wall. For now, I actually slide the foot of the lathe away from the wall every so often and clean. I plan to make a splash plate for the back so all chips go into the tray and I don't have to worry about it. It is the only pain about small spaces. When I had the shop, it had 5 feet between I could walk through with a trash can and a shovel.
 

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Here is mine.

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The lathe is a Summit 11 x 32. Not sure of the year or where it was made. It's in great condition and does everything I need it to do.

I have this same lathe. I have recently just started using it a little more, had it for several years, but had too much other stuff to do before. Now that I've started using it, I'm using it quite a bit.
Anyway, what I'm looking for is a manual for it. Anyone know of any dealers that sell or reproduce manuals? I talked to Summit a couple years ago, when I got it, and they didn't have anything. Thanks.
 

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I have an Atlas 10X24..It had seen little use but was pretty well picked over when I got it. Swapped in a Timken headstock and added a quick change box. Been a good machine. For those with Atlas lathes w/ the qcgb one complaint thru the years has been the relatively high carriage feed at its slowest setting (.0042) I added a 40/20 compound gear in the drivetrain which gives me a final slow speed of .0021 per rev. Much improvement.

The left pic is of the 'factory' setup..The second is with the 40/20 reduction gear added. I can still cut most threads accurately without messing with the change gears... I just double the thread count on Quick change box selector. The only ones I can't do without changing it back are on the extreme coarse end of the spectrum, but how often does anyone need a 4 pitch thread...
 

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I have a JET 14" x 40" lathe. I got it late last year. I've used it a few times and to tell you, it is dead nuts on the money as far as accuracy. I've used it for some external turning, plus a few parts I.D. boring. Although Made in China, I think they are holding some higher standards with the JET over something like a HF Lathe.
 

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ilovevocs

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I have a JET 14" x 40" lathe. I got it late last year. I've used it a few times and to tell you, it is dead nuts on the money as far as accuracy. I've used it for some external turning, plus a few parts I.D. boring. Although Made in China, I think they are holding some higher standards with the JET over something like a HF Lathe.

What is chucked up in your tailstock Kev?
 

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Holy **** Kevin! You like to live dangerously.
There's no way I would mount a flat tv behind my tool room lathe.
Stuff always bounces and hits the wall where you put yours.:headscrat

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What is chucked up in your tailstock Kev?

It a small die holder. I was threading some 10-32 brass rod.

Holy **** Kevin! You like to live dangerously.
There's no way I would mount a flat tv behind my tool room lathe.
Stuff always bounces and hits the wall where you put yours.:headscrat

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That is the only wall that had room to mount a TV on that was large enough. Believe me, when I am cutting something, I take precautions. :lol:
 

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I have an older (maybe 50's) Sheldon lathe of about 8 inches, it has a quick change gear box for the lead screw, but there is no threading dial or even any numbers on the OC box to select a TPI. I want to make a faceplate, and need to do an internal thread of 1 3/4 -8 so I have been playing with the selectors and cutting on a PVC pipe to try to come up with 8tpi. the alternative would be if anyone had a faceplate for a Sheldon Lathe with a 1 3/4 -8 thread size??
 

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I've got a Myford Super 7 as well! Superb machines, really versatile, but it's not important what you get, so long as you get something!

I use it all the time for making up small tools and jigs, but there's no better feeling than needing some obscure size bolt and just being able to turn it up!

Don't worry about the skills. Get the machine, learn the basic's from a small book,and all the rest will come!
 

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Great thread but the question is ? How did you guys move the big ones.As soon as my new shop is built I am gonna buy myself one.I am still up in the air on mill or lathe, I will eventually have both.
 
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I recently found these photos of when I got mine.




My BFF and I went in together to rescue this from the scrap heap. I have since bought out his share.

For a size comparison that is a full-size truck with an 8 foot bed.

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Using modern muscle to move it.

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Proud owners:

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Before it got a used motor oil bath and a tarp:

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I still intend to bring her back to life but I don’t know when.
 

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I recently found these photos of when I got mine.




My BFF and I went in together to rescue this from the scrap heap. I have since bought out his share.

For a size comparison that is a full-size truck with an 8 foot bed.

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Using modern muscle to move it.

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Proud owners:

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Before it got a used motor oil bath and a tarp:

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I still intend to bring her back to life but I don’t know when.

What? They were all out of the big ones?

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I have an older (maybe 50's) Sheldon lathe of about 8 inches, it has a quick change gear box for the lead screw, but there is no threading dial or even any numbers on the OC box to select a TPI. I want to make a faceplate, and need to do an internal thread of 1 3/4 -8 so I have been playing with the selectors and cutting on a PVC pipe to try to come up with 8tpi. the alternative would be if anyone had a faceplate for a Sheldon Lathe with a 1 3/4 -8 thread size??

Welcome to GJ, post a picture for this thread and seek help on your threading plate in a new thread. But I bet you can find your answer on google image search, probably not the same one but this took 2 seconds to find.
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I picked up this late 60's 13" South Bend today from a machinery dealer for 500$. It's filthy but complete and fairly tight, ID tag on it shows it's from a local community college.
It came with the milling attachment.
They're still out there guys, keep your eyes peeled!
 

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I picked up this late 60's 13" South Bend today from a machinery dealer for 500$. It's filthy but complete and fairly tight, ID tag on it shows it's from a local community college.
It came with the milling attachment.
They're still out there guys, keep your eyes peeled!

You're killing me, nice SB find for $500.:thumbup:
 

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I have two lathes ...this is my old Logan..



And an Emco 120P, I replaced all the original electronics in it...new motor , steppers. etc.





Here's the back of the control board....

 

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Two things I wanted since I was a preteen ager: a 45 ACP,and a

Lathe. 65 y.o. now, and have gotten both within the last 20 years.

Used to use a drill press as a wannabe lathe to fabricate some

items, but had no precision. Ha. I paid $300 for an old leather

belt driven lathe with very little in the way of accessories and

I've used it occasionally, but I'll say: "when you need

the capability, there is nothing like having the right tool".

$500 sounds very reasonable to me.

Uncle Bob
 

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First Post on Garage Journal! Been on here about a year, figured I should start posting.

Recently acquired this British made Myford ML7 for $50. hasnt been used in years but seems to run ok. It does not have any accessories past what's on it (other than about 30 cutting bits), but for a start that seems to work for what I need it for. I have limited experience with a lathe but had always wanted one. will be used mainly for making parts for a few old Jeep trucks and just about anything else I find a use for. All in all I think $50 was a very good deal.

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View my blog about it here:http://willyspickup.blogspot.ca/2013/03/my-precision-tool-department-grows.html

Cheers,
Eric
 
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Nothing special, but its paid for, and I think I got enough accessories, and tooling to do almost anything I need. I even turned down a 230mm VW flywheel on it last week...

Its the 13X40 from HF, I installed a Sinpo DRO, and an import wedge type toolpost.

I use it almost every day.
I also have the benchtop knee mill from HF, its OK, but I would really like to upgrade to a larger capacity mill, that would also have a DRO on it. I'm keeping an eye on the local classifieds. I am saving up to buy a 7X14 bandsaw with coolant & hydraulic feed, that will be nice to have. I should be able to pick one up before X-Mas.


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Nice!!! congratulations! :thumbup:

V!
 

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This is mine an older South Bend had it for about 4 years. Came with a fair amount of tooling.
 

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My buddy got a couple more lathes this last year for his shop. One is an old Gisholt 2L, it's got like an 18" or 24" chuck on it. 99% of its use is to bore holes in roundstock before they go on the CNC machines.

His other machine is a late 90's Mori Seiki TL-40B. It has like ~80" between centers...
 

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Picked up this PowrKraft/Logan a few months back. Its 10X24. My Dad was a machinist before he retired and I always wanted to learn how to run a lathe myself so I got this from a neighbor down the street with a bunch of tooling, a four jaw chuck, two three jaw chucks, a faceplate, and five micrometers for
$500. I think I did alright. Having a blast learning how to run it.
 

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>$500. I think I did alright. Having a blast learning how to run it.
You dang sure did alright with that!
 

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I don't know if I posted before or not, but I bought this lathe early this year (I think). It's a 14" x 40" JET lathe and is dead nuts accurate. I had a piece of round stock chucked up in the three jaw, turned it down by maybe .010 or so, moved the tool to the right, then took the piece out of the chuck, turned it end for end, then made a cut at exactly the same place the compound was for the first cut. You could not feel a step at all in doing so. The spec sheet stated that it was accurate within .0002 and that proved it. For a Chinese lathe, I think JET holds a little higher standards than a lot of the other Chinese products out there.

The pics are where I cleaned it up the other day. I was done running a project, shop vac'd it up, then decided to wipe it down and throw a coat of Meguiar's on it, so it will be easier to clean up the next time.

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