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cvairwerks

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The Kwik-Switch system is nice, but I think it would end up costing more than the mill. Hard for me to justify in my personal shop.

It’s not for everyone. I mentioned it and linked to it, only to show that a QR system is going to eat up some of the Z axis. The Kwick eats up about 4 inches if I remember correctly. It wouldn’t be pretty if one were to invest in a system and then find out it has eaten into the Z axis so much that you can’t do the planned work. I’ve had to kludge together some fixturing to hold a part that was taller than the Z capability of a mill, and it’s a pain. With the smaller mills, one has to deal with a limited Z and you have to really think ahead and get creative at times. Running out of capability more than a couple of times becomes an excercise in frustration. :wtf:
 
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I got real lucky a few years back and found a new unused 1986 Deber with both vertical and horizontal spindles. it has power feed on all three axis as well as a power feed quill and tapping control. comes with it's own on board coolant pump and is powered by a 10 HP 3 phase motor on the vertical spindle and a monster 15 HP on the horizontal. The table itself can be rotated up to 25 degrees to allow taper work. that makes my mill a "universal" mill.

It uses NTB 40 tooling.

I installed a DRO and bought a nice Kurt vice as well as a rotary table.

I have probably spent three times what I paid for the mill on tooling alone. Not to mention a quality rotary phase converter that this mill just hums on. :thumbup:

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I have 3 mills.
 

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Jking, how do you like your Alliant mill? I bought one a while back and still have not set it up since I don’t have the necessary wiring in place yet. That should happen this coming spring/summer.
 

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A couple of friends...

Garden variety 1980s Bridgeport Textron


Adcock & Shipley 1ESG


Fadal VMC-15


And a project mill needing some TLC and waiting for new part of the shop to open up.
K&T 307 S-12


Upset at myself because I missed out on a K&T 415 which might have been in better condition and less $ but I was hawing too long about being able to handle the weight of it and in hindsight I think it would have been OK...
 

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I have a first generation J head Bridgeport from the ‘60’s. It had a mechanical table feed with no motor. I removed the feed gearbox, now I need to replace the screw with a shorter one. It’s not pretty but it works! I’m very fortunate to have a mill (and lathe).
 

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I have a first generation J head Bridgeport from the ‘60’s. It had a mechanical table feed with no motor. I removed the feed gearbox, now I need to replace the screw with a shorter one. It’s not pretty but it works! I’m very fortunate to have a mill (and lathe).

What length table is yours?
 

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Started out with a cheap Jet mill-drill. It worked, and got me rolling, but yeah, it wasn't the best. Graduated from that to a (then) brand-new Grizzly G4027, which I've now been using nearly daily for 15 years:

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About ten years ago I picked up a well-used-and-abused Nichols horizontal mill, stripped it down and nearly fully rebuilt it:

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I say "nearly" because I couldn't fix the table wear at the time, but I'm currently having it ground. Once it's back, the machine will be in 100% condition again.

And then two years ago, I got this Spanish-made Anayak "Exacto" vertical, in even worse shape than the Nichols, and fully rebuilt it as well:

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Technically I have one of these, too...

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... But you can really only call it a "mill" if the only thing you know about machine tools is that several years ago a friend once tried to describe one to you over the phone. While drunk. And at a loud party. :D

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Anyone with an Acroloc? I used to run a shop in auburn, WA with 6 of them. They had 10,000 rpm spindles and were running 24/7. The spindles were lasting maybe a couple months of continuous use before burning up and losing tolerances. This was before liquid cooled spindles. We made magnesium read/write heads for hard drives.



Biggest issue, after spindle life, was keeping the holders clean. A bad tool change would have the holder pop out at 10,000 rpm and spin like a top in the chip tray, till the operator dropped a mop head on it. We used Arcroloc because of the super fast tool change, about 3 seconds, chip to chip.



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I got my first mill a few months ago. Enco 105-1110. $500 Craig's List find with a good amount of tooling. I gave it some love, adjusted, cleaned, painted, built a new stand. I like it. Still trying to learn.



Same model I have ... like the stand too.
 

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What length table is yours?

Don’t remember exactly, I can measure it, I think 9” x 49”. I bought a new screw and brass nut, just haven’t had a chance to put it in yet. Table has drill marks. Eventually I will just replace the table. I have a pic somewhere......
 

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It is hard to beat how much material a Nichols horizontal mill can hog with that small of a footprint.

We used several Nichols mills at my work. We used one of them exclusively for slicing off various length pieces from a bar that had been previously milled into a T shape from a brass bar. The lead screw was removed, an air cylinder and a hydro check were added to control the table. It could slice off 208 pcs per hour set up like that using a 1/16” wide slotting blade.
 

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Jking, how do you like your Alliant mill? I bought one a while back and still have not set it up since I don’t have the necessary wiring in place yet. That should happen this coming spring/summer.

It’s basically a Bridgeport. I bought this and sold my BP. It is in nice shape. I guess the story is when Bridgeport shut down some of the engineers or who ever went and had these built overseas and used BPs design and they built to BP specs. Runs fine.
 

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I've posted these pictures of my 1938 Cincinnati MH2 in the past, but here they are:
 

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cvairwerks, is this Ranger wrench applicable to the SGV-770? If so, I'll put it in a bubble mailer and send it to you.
 

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Provincial: I'll have to look in the manuals to see. A quick glance thru the office this morning, and I didn't find the manual, so that means it's boxed and in one of three locations. Give me a week or two to check, as there are about 100 boxes of books to look at and they are scattered between three locations, one of which is 90 miles away. I'll be at that place sometime this next week.
 

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We used several Nichols mills at my work. We used one of them exclusively for slicing off various length pieces from a bar that had been previously milled into a T shape from a brass bar. The lead screw was removed, an air cylinder and a hydro check were added to control the table. It could slice off 208 pcs per hour set up like that using a 1/16” wide slotting blade.

-That was real common. The Nichols were intended to be industrial-production machines, the sort of thing set up with a fixture, and an operator would simply make the same single cut, on a binful of identical parts, all day long.

The vast majority of Nichols, as such, were fitted with hand levers- instead of cranking a wheel, you simply swung a lever. With the movable head, it was a case of dropping the blank into the fixture or vise, using one lever to lower the head, used the table lever to traverse the part under the cutter, lift the head, return the table to the starting point, open the vise, replace the cut piece with another blank, lathe, rinse, repeat.

Later, the same machines were fitted with air cylinders to do essentially the same thing, but semi-automatically. Usually not actual CNC, but just a couple simple timers, or even just mechanical flow control valves.

A factory might have literally a hundred or more of them in a row- the part would start out as a blank at station one, each machine makes just one cut, then the part emerges as a finished piece at station 20, or 50, or whatever.

They're great machines, but unfortunately, the vast majority of them don't have actual leadscrews or handwheels, which rather limits their appeal to the home-shop or even job-shop guys.

Mine happens to be the "toolroom" version, with leadscrews and micrometer dials on all axes (except the head, of course) which is the most desirable one to have. (And yes, I have a vertical head for it around here somewhere, too. I just need to find it and finish rebuilding it. :D )

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Doc: I'll have to figure out how mine is configured. It appears to be a very oddball set up. Built for the Navy, if I remember correctly. I know it has the hand wheels and dials on all axis, but I think it has the high speed motor, but with the big pulleys. I need to see if I can get it home soon.

Provincial: Yeah, I'm spread out for now. We've got the house we live in right now, 4 storage units here in town and a house with two small storage buildings over in another county. We also have raw land in another state we are planning on putting a hangar on.
 

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I'll play...I bought this for $300...then refinished it and fixed a few small things. Added a DRO and VFD

 

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I find most good deals when I get up in the morning between 4 and 6 am. I make coffee and go straight onto CL to see what was posted the night before, beating out the later risers. I have found 4 Bridgeports within 1-1/2 hours from me in this manner, at relatively good prices. One had been sitting in a cotton warehouse for 30 years, and the warehouse manager thought it was a drill press of some type, so he priced it low relative to it’s value. I paid his price and loaded out. He was happy to get it out of his way, and I was happy to help him.

Hint. When searching use mill, milling machine, drill press, machinist, Bridgeport, machine shop, machine tools, tooling, DRO, ways, spindle. Some machines are inside other ads that do not focus on them.
 

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I find most Bridgeports running about $1800 and up, and look at $2500 as being middle of the road for home use. Of course, a working DRO is a plus, as well as a WORKING table feed. A lot have the aftermarket ones, but with problems. I actually like the earlier mechanical drives after using one for over 30 years.
 

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I have an Index Model 55 with the self-feed table, date coded 1940 (which I believe is the first year).
 

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For most home shop use, a mill with a vertically moveable spindle would be better. Otherwise, drilling holes is a pain.

I agree to a point. When I have to make big holes in a large piece it's nice to have the slow spindle and auto feed to push a 1" bit through a large piece of iron. That machine 930 pictured shows a lot of tooling on the floor and if that was all included, with vise for a few hundred dollars it could be a heck of a deal. Not for the home garage but in a farm shop like mine it could pay its way.

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Mills seem to be much cheaper around here, $2500 is usually high end with DRO and tooling.

I paid about half that for my mill and it is in very good condition.

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I had a full day into going to get it, had to bring my forklift to the place, but it is worth closer to $8k and the CNC system works, wish it had been a 3 axis, but I am not complaining.
 

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