I didn't base my opinion on videos. You assumed that.
It's the only thing you mentioned
I've had the Icon in hand. Actually, I don't care much for most Youtube reviews. They are typically just paid advertisements. The Icon stuff got heavily pushed on Youtube but even Youtubers found little difference to justify a price more than 3x more than the Pittsburgh Pro. That was the reason I mentioned the Youtube videos.
It's not 3x
(well, I guess the gold one is, but that's a special/vanity price - comparing the regular models is a more head-to-head comparison until a gold Pittsburgh Pro model appears...).
The Catus Maximus video you linked has him mention multiple times he sees differences and likes the design details of the Icon, but doesn't feel like they're going to perform differently or worth it, which is opinion. It doesn't appear he does much more than wiggle them around on his leather mat, do a brief teardown on the Icon and briefly test them on a rig for stiffness - doesn't sound like he worked them out much more than that. I subscribed to his channel for a while and realized he's a bit of a K-mart shopper and sometimes mixes supposition in with fact, at which point I unsubscribed.
I think that video was one of the reasons I bought both to compare, but it was ultimately pretty useless. If he can't feel the differences, I absolutely can.
Despite a history of hostility from you, I was very polite in my reply when you made a simple oversight here -->
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9018748#post9018748
The assignees and inventors were right on the patent document like I previously posted. But I didn't belittle you about not understanding. I didn't accuse you of using imagination instead of the information clearly provided in the patent.
I actually have a couple patents. It can take years to clear the process. And if a patent is granted, in a corporate scenario it's granted in the name of the company that holds the submitted IP. In other words, if my company had been acquired during the process, or sold the IP in the meantime, it would be granted in that company's name, not the original. But whatever. I was definitely speculating on how the Bahco thing might have come to pass, including the possibility that Snap On acquired the IP and the hired the engineers/designers. It's entirely possible I was wrong. But it wasn't oversight or misunderstanding - neither of us know the story.
When you bought the Snap-On ratchets it looked a lot like you bought them to recreate Harbor Freight's advertising. But I didn't belittle you about that either.
Wut? Dude - you're imagining things, which is a little creepy and entirely misguided in this case. I can assure you I'm not trying to "recreate" anything, and the notion you think you have any standing to "belittle" me is laughable. I bought the Snap On stuff to see how much of a difference there is. Simple as that.
I think we have a common distrust of the YouTube hype. I didn't find much that was genuinely useful, so I bought some stuff and used it. And since there seems be be a lot of folks who like to imagine what they think the difference is, I post my actually-used-them opinions.
We have a difference of opinion about the value of the Pittsburgh Pro and Icon swivel ratchets. I don't think it's a good deal when it costs more than 3x more. It may be worth it to you. It's not to me. But even if you like it, calling it a good deal is a stretch.
I'm glad you are happy with your purchase.
Without coupons, the ratchets in question are a little more than 2X (e.g. 3/8" are $17 and $43 currently). None of the truck-brands can justify a hardware-level difference vs. the Pittsburgh either. Both there are some discernable differences, and like the Icon, you just have to decide whether it's worth it to you.
I'm fine with a difference of opinion, but I don't much care for the way you express yours.
