Why doesn't bondhus make T35 torch?

[370]

I'm looking for decent American made long torx sockets. And bondhus is an american company with very fair prices I was going to give them a shot HOWEVER.... none of thier kits include a T35. It looks as if they make every single size but a T35. Anyone know why?

Sorry for the typo in the title my phone doesn't like the word torx and it changed it to torch and I can't edit the title..

 

[dnschmidt]

It's actually not a very commonly used size. Most of the time it's either a T30 or a T40.

 

[shockwave]

Yeah a t35 is very uncommon and I have never seen one in the automotive field unless you absolutely need a t35 I would look into current set

Be weary on those apex owns bondhus and some are made in China I believe

 

[T45]

I've never even seen a T35 in the wild, or even in an industrial catalog like APEX.

 

[370]

I though bondhus was all american made?
Is bondhus no good anymore?

 

[lazer50]

Their torx sockets are usa made.they make a t 35 in a handle but not in any socket set or single that im aware of.it is very uncommon tho there may be another us co.that does make it idk.it should be easy enough to google

 

[bob15]

Be weary on those apex owns bondhus and some are made in China I believe

Since when did Apex buy Bondhus?

Are you sure you don't mean Allen, which Apex owns?

 

[jumbojak]

Bondhus is an independent manufaturer.

 

[thegroundpounder99]

I wasn't even aware there was a T35. I got plenty of sets of torx and none have included a T35. Where have you come across the need for one? Just curious.


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[outdoorspace]

There is nothing in the Bondhus catalog available in T35, bit socket or otherwise.

Looking now, neither does Wiha or Wera.

 

[shockwave]

Since when did Apex buy Bondhus?

Are you sure you don't mean Allen, which Apex owns?

Sorry it might be Allen I am thinking of not bondhus

 

[M6erfan]

"Why doesn't bondhus make T35 torch?"

Because there's no market for them?

 

[Strouty]

Sorry it might be Allen I am thinking of not bondhus

Maybe you should edit or delete your post, next time check your facts or phrase it as a question at a minimum.

I just ordered a lot of Bondhus items, they were all made in the USA and have an unconditional lifetime warranty.

 

[dnschmidt]

THIS TREAD IS OFFICIALLY DEAD. Reason being: McMaster-Carr does not show such a thing as a T35 Torx bit existing. In this world this can only mean one thing: THIS THING DOENS'T EXIST. If McMaster-Carr says it doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. Case closed.

 

[lazer50]

M s c direct carries the bondhus pro t a n i u m line of wrenches and the set has a t 35

 

[outdoorspace]

The two sets (12634, 14138) on MSC that mention T35 are in error. The fold-up includes T30 and not T35.

 

[T45]

Unless the OP has a demonstrated need for this tool this thread should be ended or closed. This is not a tool that should be bought "on spec" (as in speculation).

 

[370]

Wow lots of bitching about me asking about a T35 torx. Delete the thread because of it? It was a question! I was looking at the list of included sockets. I've used a 25 and a 45 and a55 so in my mind there should be a damn 35. I've never seen a T8 torx. And somebody decided a 25 was too small and a 30 was too big so they invented a T27. So is it really that crazy that I thought there was a T35?

 

[dnschmidt]

Then maybe you should have asked the question: "Is there such a thing as a T35 Torx" instead of bitchin' that Bondhus doesn't make one. You implied that they screwed the pooch when in fact you did.

 

[Superbec]

Then maybe you should have asked the question: "Is there such a thing as a T35 Torx" instead of bitchin' that Bondhus doesn't make one. You implied that they screwed the pooch when in fact you did.

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impeccable logic, I say we bring the torches , tar and feathers !!!

(yesterday I was so worried I don't have a t35 in any of my sets ... I came to the conclusion I don't need one )

 

[370]

Then maybe you should have asked the question: "Is there such a thing as a T35 Torx" instead of bitchin' that Bondhus doesn't make one. You implied that they screwed the pooch when in fact you did.

I asked why they didn't include one. I never said they screwed up. So maybe you assumed I implied something i didn't imply. You could have answered "t35's just don't exist". But instead you chose to be a **** instead. It a good thing you know everything about everything though right? So I'll never ever see you ask a question ever about anything right? Douchebag

 

[lazer50]

Thanks outdoorspace for the catch on that error.not that i will ever need a t35. Lol but for the op if you actually need one a company called u x c e l l makes a 1/2 drive t35. Its available on amazon dont remember the price.its likely a one or two time use tool maybe quality wise according to reviews.

 

[370]

Thanks outdoorspace for the catch on that error.not that i will ever need a t35. Lol but for the op if you actually need one a company called u x c e l l makes a 1/2 drive t35. Its available on amazon dont remember the price.its likely a one or two time use tool maybe quality wise according to reviews.

Thanks I'll keep that in mind if I bring across one.

 

[bob15]

Wow lots of bitching about me asking about a T35 torx. Delete the thread because of it? It was a question! I was looking at the list of included sockets. I've used a 25 and a 45 and a55 so in my mind there should be a damn 35. I've never seen a T8 torx. And somebody decided a 25 was too small and a 30 was too big so they invented a T27. So is it really that crazy that I thought there was a T35?

I asked why they didn't include one. I never said they screwed up. So maybe you assumed I implied something i didn't imply. You could have answered "t35's just don't exist". But instead you chose to be a **** instead. It a good thing you know everything about everything though right? So I'll never ever see you ask a question ever about anything right? Douchebag

Take a deep breath and relax. No need to get the ******* in a bunch over this thread. And if you really want an answer to your question, ask the inventors: http://www.acument.com/

Also, T-8, T-25 & T-27 bits (also 5 point "Plus") are used to assemble some internal parts on diesel rotary pumps.

 

[Camping57]

I was the guy who maintained the global standards for Torx for a number of years so I pretty much know a little bit about the whole thing.
There is no such thing as a T35 Torx.
Never was, never will be.
T27 was developed because there was too big a jump between the T25 and T30 and the recesses were not big enough to drive the large screws and too big to fit into the heads of the smaller ones.
Any questions about Torx or Torx Plus I will be glad to help out on.
One key: never buy the off brand bits - the heat treat and material are really substandard- they would almost never meet the minimum torsional strength requirement in the standards. Apex, Wera, Wiha, Snap-on are all good.

 

[T45]

^^^Thank you for that last post Camping^^^

 

[370]

I was the guy who maintained the global standards for Torx for a number of years so I pretty much know a little bit about the whole thing.
There is no such thing as a T35 Torx.
Never was, never will be.
T27 was developed because there was too big a jump between the T25 and T30 and the recesses were not big enough to drive the large screws and too big to fit into the heads of the smaller ones.
Any questions about Torx or Torx Plus I will be glad to help out on.
One key: never buy the off brand bits - the heat treat and material are really substandard- they would almost never meet the minimum torsional strength requirement in the standards. Apex, Wera, Wiha, Snap-on are all good.

So bondhus are no good? I was reading here that people liked them and they are USA made.

 

[Camping57]

The Bondhus are OK- they tend to have a slightly lower hardness than the ones that I mentioned and because of that they will twist and yield at a lower torque. The good thing is that they generally won't shatter like a really hard bit, but that lower yield point means that you have a bunch of keys that are wound up on the end and then they have more of a tendency to cam out of the recess.
My personal preference is to get the hardest bits that I can (the Apex silver bits or the Wiha ones are my favorites) and crank until they break. I have the advantage of a pretty much unlimited supply of bits at the office......

 

[370]

Well by time we got this far I had already ordered them. I guess we'll see how they hold up. My short torx sockets are Macs and snap ons. These bondhus I bought are long torx. And I bought there folding set of torx and Allen's. So I'll see how they are.

 

[bob15]

The folding sets of keys by them are very good.

 

[pstemari]

Thanks outdoorspace for the catch on that error.not that i will ever need a t35. Lol but for the op if you actually need one a company called u x c e l l makes a 1/2 drive t35. Its available on amazon dont remember the price.its likely a one or two time use tool maybe quality wise according to reviews.

Uxcell is like Harbor Freight minus the middleman and quality control.

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[toolmutt]

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[Superbec]

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now find a fastener that fits

 

[toolmutt]

now find a fastener that fits

I didn't say it actually fit anything.

I got it for the tailgate of my F150. T30 was too small and T40 was too big. Must be a T35, right? Wrong! I found out from a F150 forum that it's actually a Torx Plus 27.

 

[pstemari]

Odd. I thought Torx Plus had more meat on the driver and less in the socket, such that a Torx driver would fit loosely in a Torx Plus socket but not the other way around.

I'm surprised a T30 driver would go into a TP27 socket.

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[Camping57]

PST has the Torx Plus design right. When were developed it we made it so you can fit a Torx driver into the same sized Torx Plus recess, but not vice versa. The goal was to get more drive bit strength for high torque applications (the Germans always want Torque to yield).
I think that what happened to Mutt was that the paint filled up the lobes in the recess and made it seem like a T27 wouldn't fit. A 30 should never fit into a 27, no matter what the combination was. One possibility is that a T30 made by a non licensed mfg. might be made so small that it would fit, but that is unlikely.

 

[lazer50]

So you see camping57 there is such a thing as a t 35 after all!

 

[Camping57]

I see that, but it isn't supported by any of the factory standards.
Some one must have decided to make up a size for one reason or another. I know that there have not been any header punches made in that size.
If you google images for ISO 10664 specification it has the sizes and dimensions for the recesses.

 

[wolf_from_wv]

If we're going to stop people from buying tools on speculation, the entire board may need closed or seriously weeded...


Uses:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5434981-T35-Torx-Does-it-really-exist

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/t35-torx-star-bit-driver.311109/

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=183595

http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446966

 

[T45]

This is actually why you should wait to have an application.

I saw t35 listed on a VW parts list, a custom toolkit supposedly made by Hazet. But Hazet and Snap on don't show it in their catalot and neither do Apex Bits. This is a rare security-thru-obscurity bit, and not a wideley needed hand tool.

You can usually call for non-catalog items if you really need them. EG if this was snap on it would be like $5 and 2 days in the mail delivered. No use buying them until you have a demonstrated use case stil IMHO.