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Williams B 51 innards

ganymede

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Everyone knows about the old J.H. Williams pear head Superratchets . If not they’re shown in detail in us patent # 1,957,462 .
There are two important points to the patent. The first is the way the teeth of the pawl mesh with the gear when the ratchet is under load. The second is the connection between the selector lever and the pawl. They’re made with a bit of play between the two so the selector lever doesn’t flick back n forth as the ratchet is worked.
On my 3/8 drive b51 I noticed almost no play and the lever flicked annoyingly . I also noticed that unlike the patent drawings and other ratchets in my collection, the end of the selector lever didn’t pass though the body of the ratchet into a threaded hole (at least not one that was visible). I therefore had no choice but to ignore the fact that it was otherwise working perfectly and take it apart.
Inside there are slight differences. Everything is held in place by the wire that passes through the pawl and selector. Its made so that the ends fit in a small groove in the body of the ratchet. Also since the spring and ball are held in with a small set screw, taking it apart is much easier.
In the pics you can see two lengths of wire. The fat one (.098” thick) is the one that was in the ratchet when I got it. It was almost the same diameter as the hole through which it passed and that negated one of the provisions of the patent. I replaced it with thinner ( .055 “) but still rigid wire and that got everything almost perfect.
 

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Sorry, pics don't want to expand for me, but are you sure it is a "SuperRachet"? From my understanding the 51 series is not and the 52 series is. Still JH Williams, still good rachets, but not the same design as the patent (as you realized). Are you comparing it to another 51 or to a 52?
 
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Yes, it's a Superratchet and is marked as such.
Williams had two significant ratchet patents the first was from the 1930's and was for pear head ratchets. The one you may be thinking of is from the 1950's for the dual pawl round head ratchets.
 

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Yeah, I am thinking the ones with a + switch, round head. Rereading your OP, I added the Two to the pawls section, not Two points you were making. My bad.
 
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Ive got one too but its got the selector threaded at the end and it passes all the way through the head of the ratchet, like most of the others in 1/4" and 1/2" drive I've seen.
 

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Interesting, never noticed this until now, but mine are the same as you've noted. I've also got what I'd guess is an earlier version of the 1/2" Superratchet, but it's only branded with a "W" inside a diamond, an "S" (no "51"), "PATD", "MADE IN U.S.A.", and it lacks the art-deco-ish swell at the bottom of the handle.
 
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Interesting, never noticed this until now, but mine are the same as you've noted. I've also got what I'd guess is an earlier version of the 1/2" Superratchet, but it's only branded with a "W" inside a diamond, an "S" (no "51"), "PATD", "MADE IN U.S.A.", and it lacks the art-deco-ish swell at the bottom of the handle.

Yup. I made a thread for those a while back and I think some one mentioned them being an economy or auto parts store line.
Mine has the threaded selector too.
 

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In my one and only 3/8" B 51 The "Superratchet" everything internal is the same as your photos.
But the wire (original?) measures 0.0845 of an inch and it has minimal, but some play in the lever.
 
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