"wire guard" instead of conduit allowed by code?

[ching0n]

I have service entrance cables feeding through a cinder wall that I want to protect against nails but don't want to have the meter removed to do so. Are these type of flanged guards allowed? I don't see any "schedule x" rating on them so gut is telling me no but don't feel like welding up a box either. I've got about 4ft of the 3 + ground....so a tight fit is 3"x2"x4' box. Do I need to worry about volume? space is at a premium and framing 2"x3" around it still wouldn't protect against a nail.

Thank you,

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Southwire-Sweetbriar-4-0-4-0-2-0-Aluminum-Urd-Service-Entrance-Cable-By-the-Foot/3129327

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015ELYNPM/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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Come to think of it, I guess I could tack and notch a bunch of junction boxes

 

[Zeke]

Naw, IDT plastic at 0.07 wall thickness is nothing except for data wires, low voltage, etc.

 

[LXCam]

Have you thought about 4" X 4" gutter?. It needs to be within a UL listed wireway. Does it need to be weather tight?

 

[ching0n]

Have you thought about 4" X 4" gutter?. It needs to be within a UL listed wireway. Does it need to be weather tight?

I did think of it but don't like that gutter shape isn't symmetrical. I saw something similar used for HVAC pies that is symmetrical but seemed rather thin. Isn't gutter too thin for the application?

I'm also reading that this type of cable can't be inside the structure either....off gassing or toxic in a fire maybe? Though I'm not sure why it's even called service entrance cable or how it'd connect to the panel otherwise.

 

[LXCam]

I did think of it but don't like that gutter shape isn't symmetrical. I saw something similar used for HVAC pies that is symmetrical but seemed rather thin. Isn't gutter too thin for the application?

I get this feeling we’re not talking about the same product

This picture is your typical indoor rated gutter

 

[Jmellc]

That can be buried bare but should be in conduit coming up the wall. Schedule 40 PVC is good, Schedule 80 is better, if subject to physical damage.

 

[ching0n]

I get this feeling we’re not talking about the same product

This picture is your typical indoor rated gutter

Thanks, learned something new. I think I found a 4x4 wireway "trough" that may work. Would using c-channel or unslotted unistrut channel not be allowed since it's not "UL listed"? It'd probably give me a tighter fit.

 

[alfredeneuman]

URD Cable (in the link) doesn't have flame resistant insulation and isn't to be used indoors even in conduit.
It has to be terminated outside the structure.

 

[kaymccampbell]

Exterior rated wire duct or trough is tough stuff, and can be had in length from any good electrical house.

 

[mike93lx]

I'm also reading that this type of cable can't be inside the structure either....off gassing or toxic in a fire maybe? Though I'm not sure why it's even called service entrance cable or how it'd connect to the panel otherwise.

Some URD is rated for indoor use. What is listed on the jacket? You need to look for rhw-2

If it is just use-2, you need to terminate it outdoors and change to something like SER or thwn/xhhw in conduit

 

[alfredeneuman]

Some URD is rated for indoor use. What is listed on the jacket? You need to look for rhw-2

I finally looked it up....and it is dual rated (rhw-2).
Good to Go

 

[wyliesdiesels]

Have you thought about 4" X 4" gutter?. It needs to be within an NRTL listed wireway. Does it need to be weather tight?

Fixed it for ya