Wire Run in New Kitchen Island
- Thread starter Two Pump Chump
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Ok - I didn’t realize that you wanted a pop up.
I hear you. Our previous kitchen had that type of counter and they sucked. At least for me, it’s much nicer to have a single flat surface to work on. The previous owner’s counters were a big part of why we remodeled our kitchen.
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Two Pump Chump
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Wow !! Like Dorothy in Oz. My need is fulfilled. Use a box. On with the discussion.
FWIW I find the new code absurd. My "island" is built with four code defined walls, including weather treated sole plates and stud on 16-inch spacing. The outlets are fixed to studs, the same as they are in the rest of the structure. I don't see any safety issue that isn't self created. The outlets are for vacuum cleaner and cell chargers, USB outlets really. Crock pot to the head. LMAO. What a way to die !!! A solution in need of a problem. I will dig this up after the house is finaled and "fit" for habitation. Thanks for your time and input.
Edit: Idaho just adopted 2023
FWIW I find the new code absurd. My "island" is built with four code defined walls, including weather treated sole plates and stud on 16-inch spacing. The outlets are fixed to studs, the same as they are in the rest of the structure. I don't see any safety issue that isn't self created. The outlets are for vacuum cleaner and cell chargers, USB outlets really. Crock pot to the head. LMAO. What a way to die !!! A solution in need of a problem. I will dig this up after the house is finaled and "fit" for habitation. Thanks for your time and input.
Edit: Idaho just adopted 2023
Wiz02
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Do people have islands with large counter overhangs on the sides? The counter overhang the sides by roughly 1 1/2 inches in my kitchen andI installed the outlets on the cabinet sides.
I see why front and back of the island won't work (front pretty obvious and back for eating area overhang being too big) but I don't see why the counter overhang is an issue on the sides.
I see why front and back of the island won't work (front pretty obvious and back for eating area overhang being too big) but I don't see why the counter overhang is an issue on the sides.
If you're not taking out a permit it doesn't matter. It has been legit for many years, and there's no 'retro-police' coming out to force corrections.
yatg
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What exactly are you doing on your counters?
sparky 1971
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Some islands have overhangs on both sides as well as the front but those aren't as common. I just finished an island with an overhang on one side and the front. The side with the overhang got a receptacle installed in it about three minutes after the final inspection was completed and the inspector was headed down the road.
A bigger problem is that even if there isn't an overhang, there isn't always a way to install the box. If it's just a cabinet with one drawer and a door, no problem. I will put the top of the box in the side about an inch below the drawer but now islands are going away from those and nothing but drawers top to bottom is becoming the norm, that doesn't leave enough depth for a box.
Wiz02
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I managed to mount a shallow box in a cabinet with a drawer and pullout shelves below as there was sufficient clearance between the cabinet sidewall and the drawer slide.
Wiz02
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Didn't intend to suggest anything retroactive, was trying to say that having large overhangs on all 4 sides of an island seems to be an edge case.
You didn't suggest anything retroactive - I did; as a counterpoint to all those who think this new rule matters a whole bunch.
For specifics, pull a permit and your inspector will tell you how it needs to be
Does the new code apply to bars as well? Having a receptacle under the bar to plug my phone or laptop into while waiting for my flight at the airport bar sure is handy. The construction is the same but the likelihood of the crockpot scenario playing out at a bar is pretty slim.
