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what is the next viable option for tools?

I am looking for American made, lifetime warranty yet affordable for the home mechanic.

Sorry if this has been answered in other threads. Most of them are 10 pages and contain a slew of jibberish. Thanks friends!
 
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Used US made, or get the last of what you can find. All the people freaking out about warranties are probably not using them properly for the most part.
 

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All Channellock pliers are made in USA. The sockets and ratchets are just branded Channellock but made over seas
 

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IMO there aren't any now. Sears Craftsman was the last of the affordable stuff. They were able to keep low prices due to volume.
 

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nearly impossible to find USA made tools here in my neck of the woods & if you do it costs an arm & a leg, the alternative is European (Teng, Beta, Unior), Japanese (Aigo, Koken, Shinano) or Taiwan made stuff.

i made it a point to boycott china made stuff due to the fact they are grabbing our lands in the West Philippine sea, the more stuff we buy from china the stronger their military gets, i'd rather buy products from countries that support us with economic & military aid.
 

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Proto
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SK

Are still made in U.S.A. (for the most part)
 

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I am looking for American made, lifetime warranty yet affordable for the home mechanic.

What's considered affordable? How much should an 8 inch long 3/8'' drive American made ratchet cost?
 

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Don't know all the info, and I don't own a single tool
But cornwell seems to be a good all American option, their videos claim that anyway
Nice tool line up too
 

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Cornwell core line of tools are very nice, I'm happy with mine. That said, their prices are pretty standard truck prices. I would say Allen is about the lowest price USA tools. They are basically the same sockets and wrenches as craftsman and priced very closely. I personally have not seen any of the import allen. Next to that, SK would be next best price.
 
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Wrenches are confirmed chinese. RP and full polish. Industrial is US.

That leaves screwdrivers and sockets. For now....
 
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All the suggestions are great but everything you suggest is really expensive for a home mechanic. I was looking for a wrench set and priced an SK set and it was almost triple the cost of Craftsman.

I want to get good stuff, not junk. I also want to support America!
 

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Overall SK is probably the most affordable of what I consider professional grade tools. You can shop around with Blackhawk and find some USA stuff but they have a lot of Taiwanese stuff anymore. Craftsman "selling out" has created an instant void in the market for guys like you. As others suggested, if SK, Wright, and Armstrong don't fit your budget you might consider finding some nice used stuff in the classifieds or (if all else fails) ebay.
 

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I would check with cripe distributing on ebay for good priced usa tools. They have alot of armstrong, KD, Allen, and USA kobalt tools for really really good deals. Other than that your gonna spend some money on them. Proto, Wright, Snap on on have alot of usa tools. Channellock is the only way to go for all your pliers needs lots of good stuff all american there other stuff *****. Wilde has alot of usa tools like scrapers, pry bars, pliers etc. SK is the company I have supported alot lately I just got there new catalog and right there on the cover it says 100% USA made, huge book, all USA! everything that wasnt was dropped that says alot about a company! Im a USA tool snob if there is a version of the tool I want thats made in usa thats the one im gonna own be it new or used I have pride in seeing USA on them. Alot of people on here like german and euro tools and there nice but so is alot of taiwan japen etc tools thats not the point I want American, theres no way in hell I would drive a VW or any other euro car so why would I want there tools! Blackhawk and Williams mine as well call thereselves craftsman nothing but a once good thing gone bad! no need to argue with me I know im a snob!
 

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I would check with cripe distributing on ebay for good priced usa tools. They have alot of armstrong, KD, Allen, and USA kobalt tools for really really good deals. Other than that your gonna spend some money on them. Proto, Wright, Snap on on have alot of usa tools. Channellock is the only way to go for all your pliers needs lots of good stuff all american there other stuff *****. Wilde has alot of usa tools like scrapers, pry bars, pliers etc. SK is the company I have supported alot lately I just got there new catalog and right there on the cover it says 100% USA made, huge book, all USA! everything that wasnt was dropped that says alot about a company! Im a USA tool snob if there is a version of the tool I want thats made in usa thats the one im gonna own be it new or used I have pride in seeing USA on them. Alot of people on here like german and euro tools and there nice but so is alot of taiwan japen etc tools thats not the point I want American, theres no way in hell I would drive a VW or any other euro car so why would I want there tools! Blackhawk and Williams mine as well call thereselves craftsman nothing but a once good thing gone bad! no need to argue with me I know im a snob!


:+1: on the Channellocks. They're the only brand of pliers I buy. Excellent quality at an affordable price.
 

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All the suggestions are great but everything you suggest is really expensive for a home mechanic. I was looking for a wrench set and priced an SK set and it was almost triple the cost of Craftsman.

I want to get good stuff, not junk. I also want to support America!

Craftsman's combo wrenches were without a doubt one of the least expensive options out there for a US made wrench that works just fine for most folks. As mentioned, their volume allowed them to price like that, if they sold in the same volume as some of the industrial brands they wouldn't be as cheap.

Truth be told, SK and Wright both represent very good values in tools that will likely outlast you at a palatable price. Last year I bought the 11pc Wright full polish metric wrenches for less than $100. Otherwise check out the gently used market.
 

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My wife ordered from Sears the following:

Sears # 44048....43 pc Combination Wrench set
44098....28 pc 6 pt Combination Wrench set
87640....16 pc Boxend Wrench set

All were "Forged in USA"!!!

This was ordered last week, and delivered today...
 
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If you have a Menards store close to you they sell Masterforce tools which are made in the US. They also put them on sale frequently and are good deal then.
 

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Whoops forgot to mention they are made by Allen tools. I think only the ratchets, sockets and wrenches are US made. (maybe the screwdrivers too, but I think they are made by Western Forge)
 

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well it might be helpful if you give an exact amount you think is""affordable"",for say a 3/8 standard ratchet.then there would be more to go on.EDIT, i see that cwp already asked this.i am very curious what the answer is.
 
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I don't know what particular tools you're in the market for, but now would be a good time to snag a big set of Craftsman sockets while they're still USA made and then add some nice ratchets (I recommend Proto Pear heads). You'll save yourself a lot of money on sockets that way versus just about any of the other USA brands, though I know absolutely nothing about Allen brand other than it's a Danaher brand that was rolled into Apex and not all Allen tools are USA made.
 

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what is the next viable option for tools?

I am looking for American made, lifetime warranty yet affordable for the home mechanic.

Sorry if this has been answered in other threads. Most of them are 10 pages and contain a slew of jibberish. Thanks friends!

Buying brand new, Wright and SK are by far the two best options, IMO.

Wright is slightly nicer, and also tends to be slightly more expensive than SK, depending on what you're buying, of course. Some items in each of their lines don't follow that rule.

If buying used/second hand, amazing deals are to be had on Armstrong and Proto.


I think all four are roughly in the same ballpark, they each have their strengths and weaknesses.

I'll go over my personal observations of each:


Wright still uses Hexavalent chrome, and IMO currently has the best, if not some of the best chrome in the industry.

Wright's "Wrightgrip" wrenches are rivalled only by Snap-on's flank drive plus, but I find that the Wrights have more cleanly cut gripping teeth, that leave smaller but sharper marks in nuts and bolt heads.

Wright's ratchets are very affordable, and use a dual offset pawl design that gives them a higher effective tooth count than Snap-on Dual 80 ratchets.

They do have some rather odd empty spots in their lineup, and some strange aspects such as lack of detent on 1/4" drive sockets.



SK also still uses Hex Chrome, but I find it isn't quite as refined from piece to piece, as Wright's finish is. Amazing value can be had on their socket master sets, particularly the 1/4 and 3/8 sets.

There is some bad stuff from certain eras going around, so you do need to be a bit careful. I would say you are fairly safe if buying new today.



Proto is most comparable to Wright, in that they cater to industrial users, and have a similar "old school" aesthetic to their tools. Every example I have seen exhibits good quality at minimum. They recently released USA made ratcheting wrenches, and to my knowledge are one of only three current USA manufacturers of that tool.



Armstrong has both good and bad. You can get some items for dirt cheap on ebay, but it can be spotty for building an entire set. They have some excellent items in their line such as the long locking flex head ratchets, and others which aren't so excellent, such as their sockets which share the same double detent that Craftsman uses. I personally am not a fan of that feature.
 
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Williiams USA. Exact sockets, screwdrivers, etc. as Snap-On, but 1/4 of the price. Good deals on Ebay, or MRO Center (but you'll be waiting a while for shipping). I couldn't be happier.
 

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vintagefan,you seem to be particularly knowledgeable about this.i am looking for the higher tooth count technology,now that i determined i would have to pass on snap on, i decided on armstrong for the brand i want.what do they offer in a quick release 3/8 that you consider a ''good'' one?also is there any functional or usability downside to the double detent on sockets?
 
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Buying brand new, Wright and SK are by far the two best options, IMO.

Wright is slightly nicer, and also tends to be slightly more expensive than SK, depending on what you're buying, of course. Some items in each of their lines don't follow that rule.

I'm with you on Wright, brother. I own a complete set of every single impact socket they make, and I have tagged them as one of my main brands. They are, in fact, the closest competition to Snap-On available on the tool market.

A drawback of Wright is warranty service since I've found they don't have many retailers locally and when I've called about a rare manufacturing issue it takes a little more lobbying than I would like.
 

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I would check with cripe distributing on ebay for good priced usa tools. They have alot of armstrong, KD, Allen, and USA kobalt tools for really really good deals.

What drives me nuts about Allen is that their Allen Wrenches are not made in the US anymore. As far as I could find, all China.
 

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Wright's ratchets are very affordable, and use a dual offset pawl design that gives them a higher effective tooth count than Snap-on Dual 80 ratchets.

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Can anyone explain this. I'm lacking knowledge about dual offset pawl design, and how it would have a higher effective tooth count. Thanks.

James
 
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