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Are you planning to take corners from the back of the opposite side (on your spare doors) to make front corners on those rear doors? I wondered when I saw the first picture of the two doors together how you'd do that.

Cool project. :)


That would be a YES :thumbup:

Not my favourate way to lengthen the front doors.
I'd rather cut 2 doors over centre & join them with just one weld, but as I only have 2 "spare" doors, I just couldn't make it all work without doing them the way I have or finding another 2 doors. It will be fine the way it is, though I will probably make new skins for them once the frames are all welded.

Simon,
The COE was an interesting build, and as you agree, not how I would do the rear doors. I'm also considering running the drip rails straight through :headscrat

I have now ordered some BA Falcon Calipers.
They have a wider pad again than the AU2/3 ones & 2 spot.
 

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Eh, I'm sure it'll look fine if you have it all lined up, and those weldmates should have done a pretty good job there. :) Unless you want to just really not have any plastic filler on the outside (which is cool, too)... I was just thinking on the back doors, too- never occurred to me that the front doors weren't being done perfectly fine. IMHO, this way, you have to cut up two less hard-to-find antique doors, so maybe somebody else could use them.

That is going to look so cool once it's done. I'm rooting for you from the other side of the earth- ain't technology grand?
 
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Eh, I'm sure it'll look fine if you have it all lined up, and those weldmates should have done a pretty good job there. :) Unless you want to just really not have any plastic filler on the outside (which is cool, too)... I was just thinking on the back doors, too- never occurred to me that the front doors weren't being done perfectly fine. IMHO, this way, you have to cut up two less hard-to-find antique doors, so maybe somebody else could use them.

That is going to look so cool once it's done. I'm rooting for you from the other side of the earth- ain't technology grand?

Yep! Technology is wonderful (my guages arrived from the states today :bounce:)
No sooner had I got them out of the box and left them in the office, someone (from interstate.....Yes, from Castlemaine Simon) they wanted to know about them :headscrat
I just couldn't part with them. (maybe I should have bought 2 sets)
No looking at a column. Been on the Flaming River site.
Auto tilt column, with all the extras including cruise sounds the go :thumbup:
 

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Yep! Technology is wonderful (my guages arrived from the states today :bounce:)
No sooner had I got them out of the box and left them in the office, someone (from interstate.....Yes, from Castlemaine Simon) they wanted to know about them :headscrat
I just couldn't part with them. (maybe I should have bought 2 sets)
No looking at a column. Been on the Flaming River site.
Auto tilt column, with all the extras including cruise sounds the go :thumbup:

Pays to get two, when selling of the second you pay for the 1st set :lol_hitti:thumbup:

Who has been over your way :headscrat

As for the steering have you tried AOi Online as they are in SA ?
http://www.americanonlineimports.com/
(08) 8337 0000 as they are now making steering columns for the Aussie market.
 
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Pays to get two, when selling of the second you pay for the 1st set :lol_hitti:thumbup:

I don't know about that, but I just can't do everything :headscrat

Who has been over your way :headscrat

Kym (& he spent some money with me :thumbup:)

As for the steering have you tried AOi Online as they are in SA ?
http://www.americanonlineimports.com/
(08) 8337 0000 as they are now making steering columns for the Aussie market.

I'm not aware that they do anyting for Rods, just American imports, mainly LHD conversions. There is a Holden column listed, but still to come.

NO Rod stuff ??

I would just use a late column, as I want Auto, lights & the usual stuff (cruize would also be nice on the column) but the new stuff is just UGLY :(
so I'm unsure as to what to go for at this stage.
I have thought of going that way, and just making a better cover ??
 

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Kym sure does some miles. If you look at the topic on the Garage crawl you will see plenty of photos of his pickup.

As for the column have you contacted AOI ? I was told by them back in January at the melb rod Show they planned to do a Hot Rod Column.

Plenty of good Cruise control stuff about now. Mine (sadly :( ) is an early version on the dash as nothing was about at the time to suit my column.
 
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Kym sure does some miles. If you look at the topic on the Garage crawl you will see plenty of photos of his pickup.

As for the column have you contacted AOI ? I was told by them back in January at the melb rod Show they planned to do a Hot Rod Column.

Plenty of good Cruise control stuff about now. Mine (sadly :( ) is an early version on the dash as nothing was about at the time to suit my column.


Thanks for the email with that link Simon, I saw a few faces I've seen before.
No, Isaw them at the Vic Rod show too :headscrat

I've finally found a hood latch/emblem for the truck, just can't seem to payfor it via Paypal :headscrat:headscrat (I'll try again later)
(see, I told you the Google search is very handy Simon:thumbup::thumbup:)
It was on ebay & even though it's a little expencive for a 'buy it now', I at least don't have to look for one now :beer::beer:
 
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A quick pic of those guages.
Nothing special, but in line with the theme I hope.

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Well,
Sunday has been and gone (well the work side of it anyway :()
As Sundays is the day for the Shop Truck, I managed to spent a little more time on it, though not much can bee seen.
I blasted the R/H front fender on Friday night & the L/H one last night, before I came home.
No time to treat them, so after I removed the inner panels today they where just bolted up with the gille again.

I had to shift the front end into it's correct place & a bit of cutting was required to remove some brackets to allow the front end to go up against where the chassis drops. Out with my new toy & cut them off :bounce:

As I'm putting in my paper work this week ( to make sure I can actually build it with in our Street Rod Guidelines here) I had to sort the wheel base.
Not an easy thing to imagine a bed on the back & where the diff should go, but as I'd like a full sized bed (6') I took a punt.

Just a few pics of some playing I did with the set up.

C'Ya

Now don't pannic by this one:wtf::headscrat
The gap will be taken up when I taper cut the fender to suit the widened cab, so the front will actually be standard width........maybe :confused:

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Looking good :thumbup: I like the gauges you have chosen.
Keen to see what the bed will look like. Can you tell us more about that front end now ?

The front end is a widened L300. (62mm over standard)
I thought it was 50mm (2") wider when I bought it, and the extra width has meant a brake change on the rear to widen the track a bit to stay legal.
No big deal (I hope) I have some later ones already.

It's fitted with a Leyland p76 rack (or should that be P38, cause they where only half the car they where meant to be :bounce::bounce:)
They are front steer which usually get changed to rear for correct ackerman & easier set up, but the akerman is near spot on in the long wheel base.
(wheel base is 3760mm.......148" for you others :bounce:)
It came out of an early F100 as is (same width chassis as the one I have) but I will be changing it to power steer.

For those who don't know. an L300 is a Mitsy 2wd van.(they also come in 4wd)

I chose this front end as it is the only 'rated' one at 2 tonne, 1 tonne carying capacity.
I did want to go all F100, but that would put me into the commercial class as would have the duallies I wanted to run on the rear.
As everything is on the heavy duty side with this build, but not commercial (other wise it would be treated as such & the whole thing would have to be engineered) I figured it was the one to use, especially after I found this one cheap :thumbup:

I have done a little home work on setting up the brakes.
I wil be running Ford Territory front rotors (322mm & almost the same offest as Ford) with Falcon BA calipers (they are 2 spot with wider pads than AU2) and I will have the hubs machined to suit the L300 bearings (L300 stubs are thicker than Ford & there fore have larger bearings and seals) but it will be in Ford stud pattern to take the rotors.
I will custom make some calipers brakets.

The paper work is now done & I will be submitting it on Wed. so here's hoping it will be accpeted as is.

What is the F1 ??? Is that for a customer or another project ?

The '48 F1 is a customers project.
 
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A little more to add tonight.
My front brake bits arrived tonight............litterally :bounce:
My parts man (the owner of that F1 Simon) managed to get them on freight up to me, with my local freight man meeting the truck (after he had knocked off :thumbup:) and dropped them into work for me, so I can take them to Adelaide in the morning so the machining of the hubs can start (or at least I can get in line :wtf:)

Remember those rotors are nearlly 13" so the callipers are pretty big.

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What do you use? Leading?

That is still filler (painters HATE lead........& so do I)

Gotta have something for those areas where you put 2 pieces of metal together - invariably there's going to be some need for a skim coat somewhere.

No, WHY??
Ever heard of metal finishing??
& metal finishing is NOT using lead either.
Granted sometimes, say on pillars or some where you just can't get to the back, maybe a little filler is required, but that is up to the painter.


This Grille shell was totally rusted out on the bottom & it had to have other patches in it in other areas.

Where my finger is pointing, the whole lower section (both ways) has be replaced& metal finished.

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I delivered it yesterday to the customer for re-nickeling.
One of only 6 cars in existance here in OZ, so quite rare.
His whole car has been metal finished to date.......NO FILLER :thumbup:

Got plenty more of that kind of thing waiting for the same treatment :thumbup::thumbup:
In fact if you look in the background, there is a '28 Chev truck shell that had a very bad patch & 'lead' fill. The lead has been removed in the photo & it was blasted today ready for repairs.
 
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Oh! by the way...........I don't use filler :thumbup::thumbup:
So you don't use primer's then,what do you use under the top coats.I am a carpainter by trade and when you say you dont use fillers is a bit silly as primers are fillers as they fill all the file and sanding marks.Why don't you just say you dont use bog or lead and then smart idiots like me won't say silly things back, The truck looks great and you are doing a fantastic job on it.
I am just a smart *** KIWI.:beer:
 
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So you don't use primer's then,what do you use under the top coats.I am a carpainter by trade and when you say you dont use fillers is a bit silly as primers are fillers as they fill all the file and sanding marks.Why don't you just say you dont use bog or lead and then smart idiots like me won't say silly things back, The truck looks great and you are doing a fantastic job on it.
I am just a smart *** KIWI.:beer:

Arrrrrrrrr
A smart *** & a Kiwi :lol_hitti:lol_hitti

When we refer to fillers as fillers, that's what they are.
Primers are such, just as top coats are.
I only do metal work & leave any "filling" be it bog or what ever up to the "so called" expert painters :lol_hitti

I supply in bare metal (so no, I don't paint) so the painter knows what he's got.
Most painters (here anyway) prefer to deal with bog than lead any day & I don't blame them. Bog has advanced a long way since the early days & lead creates a lot of problems.

P.S. I don't use files either, so no large marks to fill :thumbup:
 
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Not really an update, just that I have finally found a hood enblem/latch.
I have been looking for quite a while for one of these, most of them where pretty pitted or people just wouldn't send out of their country :(

I am very happy with the condition of this, so much so that I think it was worth the inflated price I had to pay (as soon as I found it, I did a buy it now & of course the freight from the states was a killer)

Now to find out what the hinges should look like as I don't have them either.
The bolt holes look like they are more sedan then truck ones (just as the dash is sedan :headscrat)

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When it comes to hinges and handles have a look here http://www.uesint.com/index.php as a mate suggested them to me.
All NEW truck stuff. I got the handles for the F4 from them and was very impressed as they look like the originals but had the key in the handle.

Do not forget many Passenger & Commercial vehicles did interchange parts.

Errrrrrrr Ummm Hood hinges Simon.
Though I may just buy new outers for the doors (I already have some nice swap meet items for inside :thumbup:)
 
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Oh, OK. Hood hinges :headscrat well I hope you look at the links even though they may not help you with hood hinges you may get some ideas. :thumbup: even for that trailer :)

yes mate...........I went straight there :thumbup::thumbup:
I reckon I may have bought from them before :headscrat:headscrat
They do have some good gear.........................thank You :beer:
 

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Metal finsihing is a true art form. Very difficult to get it right...but it's practically impossible to do on anything later than 1965 metal!! Nice work!
 
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Metal finsihing is a true art form. Very difficult to get it right...but it's practically impossible to do on anything later than 1965 metal!! Nice work!

Thanks e-tek,
The metal finishing is a long way off yet. just waiting on those front end bits to be machined up, then I will continue with setting up the body work as I will know how wide I can make the cab.
I now have some new countersunk bolts got the door hinges, so I can maybe move on a little with the centre door pillars.

Work seems to be getting in the way of it at the moment, hence the 'need' to spend Sundays on it to keep it going. I could really use it now :wtf::wtf:

Simon, I'm going with the original latches (so long as reg. approve them. I will know soon enough when the paperwork comes back) just as I am with the door hinges, all original.

The bonnet/hood hinges are proving a bit of a mystery of which ones should be on there. There is 2 different types from what I can work out, but I've been unable to find a pic of the original ones on a vehicle.
Both are available in aftermarket, some in stainless, so as soon as I know for sure which ones I need, they will be bought also.

Still hunting for a column :confused::confused:
I think I just want too much on one:wtf:
If I can make some time on my next trip to the big smoke (even though I have to go tomorrow :() I will visit maybe the F100 wreckers & see if any of the later column have the shifter plus the extras on them.
 

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Still hunting for a column :confused::confused:
I think I just want too much on one:wtf:
If I can make some time on my next trip to the big smoke (even though I have to go tomorrow :() I will visit maybe the F100 wreckers & see if any of the later column have the shifter plus the extras on them.

If it helps you, many of the F Series trucks in the 70's used the same columns as the cars. 1977 F Series for example is the same as the Aussie Ford Falcon of the same year. :thumbup:
 
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Nice work Rocket!
Are you on the H.A.M.B. forum? I'm on that forum from time to time and don't think I've noticed your truck project.

Yes, I am on the Hamb, but haven't been there for a while. No this project isn't on there.


Thanks Simon, but I am looking for a later column that has everything on it, including cruize..........hopefully :thumbup:

I had a car club through this morning & even though they where a bunch of restoeres, the shop truck created a lot of interest, with planty of questions fielded. Maybe a few converted people there :bounce::bounce:
 

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Thanks Simon, but I am looking for a later column that has everything on it, including cruize..........hopefully :thumbup:
Then you need to look for a later Falcon or Territory Column.
As the F series stuff will be no good to you.

I had a car club through this morning & even though they where a bunch of restoeres, the shop truck created a lot of interest, with planty of questions fielded. Maybe a few converted people there :bounce::bounce:
A good Rodder can convert anything :thumbup::lol_hitti
 

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I just spent 30 minutes or so reading this whole thread, and looking at all the great pics. Fantastic work you're doing.:bowdown: After spending so much time reading this...I went and asked my wife "What's for supper?" Her reply was...."Why the hell are you speaking with an Australian accent all of a sudden?!":wtf::lol_hitti Keep up the good work. :thumbup:
 

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What a great project, I am looking forward to more pics. This will be a great rolling ad for your shop.

Are you planning on it being a billboard for your business because I am sure it is going to attract folks.


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Then you need to look for a later Falcon or Territory Column.
As the F series stuff will be no good to you.

Why is that??
I have driven a late F-truck (F-250) & it had the shift on the column along with all sorts of goodies (I just can't remember what excatly it had)

A good Rodder can convert anything :thumbup::lol_hitti

I was offered a caddy (or something similar) with cruize on the steering wheel, but the wheel was as ugly as sin (besides, the shift was on the wrong side :wtf:)

For me at the moment (being so time poor) I'd rather do some hunting after hours to get close to what I need than to spend a heap of time converting something. It would be a HUGE amount of work in something like that.

Thank you for the favourable comments guys and as far as talking like an Ausie atfer a short time reading this thread, I have grave doubts about your safety :lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

No time for any hunting for bits today while I was in the big smoke (the family medical stuff had to come first) I will return though :thumbup:
 

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Why is that??
I have driven a late F-truck (F-250) & it had the shift on the column along with all sorts of goodies (I just can't remember what excatly it had)
Do you see them in the wreckers now ? :wtf: Well just be aware the Brazilian F Series we had here had some problems and that is why Ford Aust did not continue with selling them here.

I was offered a caddy (or something similar) with cruize on the steering wheel, but the wheel was as ugly as sin (besides, the shift was on the wrong side :wtf:)
Think local as it is easier for parts :thumbup:

For me at the moment (being so time poor) I'd rather do some hunting after hours to get close to what I need than to spend a heap of time converting something. It would be a HUGE amount of work in something like that.
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I had a car club through this morning & even though they where a bunch of restoeres, the shop truck created a lot of interest, with planty of questions fielded. Maybe a few converted people there
When I said a Rodder can convert anything I was refering to the Restorers :lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti:lol_hitti

No time for any hunting for bits today while I was in the big smoke (the family medical stuff had to come first) I will return though :thumbup:
I hope all is ok, Family comes 1st. :)
 

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Thanks again for this thread. I've learned some things and seen some great work.

Too bad there's so few real garage or garage-related threads on GJ anymore. Too much: "look at this....!", "WalMart" and "Obama's a commy" posts.
 
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Thanks again for this thread. I've learned some things and seen some great work.

Too bad there's so few real garage or garage-related threads on GJ anymore. Too much: "look at this....!", "WalMart" and "Obama's a commy" posts.

Gee, thats sad :(:(
I don't get much on the 'main stream' forums that I'm on because too many are ready to bag you for having a go or just sharing what your up too.
I live in the country, so the internet is a good place to share stuff without moving from home.
A forum is what you make it I reckon & while somewhere like the Hamb of Rodding forums are normally my stuff, I've really had enough of them.

Lots where thie stuff has come from.
Work will continue on this build as soon as the paper work returns from rego.

I'm about to start a little build of an enclosed trailer too, whilst it's not the one I had planned, it will have to do for the time being.

Simon,
I will be going to UES next week for some latches, hinges and such for the trailer :thumbup::thumbup:
I'll be picking up the steel and sheetiing also. :beer::beer:
(got any plans :bounce:)
 
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