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I've decided to use some gift cards I received for xmas and build myself a new workbench for out in the garage. My current bench I built about 9 years ago has suited me well but like anything there is room for improvement. Here is the design that I plan on basing my after http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/how-to-build-heavy-duty-workbench/print/ I was really impressed how these guys put flat steel along the lengths of the bench to make the bench more ridgid. I also like the simpson ties idea. But I'm not so sure about having the bench on casters. Seems like more of a pain than a benefit. Not sure if I like the plywood top. Currently I am using 2x6's which I like but also hate the gaps between the boards. Also I think I will build my legs out of 4x4's and have a place to slide a shop vac under the bench. I currently have that feature and really like that. Then I need to decide what to do with the vise. Currently it is mounted to the bench but it might be nice to have it be portable.

I use my bench for all sorts of things. Sharpening lawn mower blades, fixing items around the house, a place to lay a beer and cigar on etc. What ideas do you guys have? Maybe a couple pictures would help.
 
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I had a woodworking bench much like that. Mine was 4'x8', with lower shelf and wired receptacle boxes on all four sides, with a cord to plug the bench in to power them up.
When I needed more space in the garage and scaled back on wood working projects, I gave the bench to a neighbor. The wheels came in handy when rolling it out into the driveway to work on in nice weather, and also when my neighbor towed it home with his 3-wheeler.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I see no need to use the metal brackets on the corners. glue and screw on 2x4's should be more than strong enough to keep the corners from ever separating or causing any problems. If you want to go a little over kill, just use lag bolts to bolt the legs onto the cross members.
 

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I used a 3/4 ply top bench for 12 years without any problems. Including building transmissions on it. My current work bench does not move, but the top is 7/16" OSB + 3/4 ply + 1/8 masonite. I have 15 linear feet of bench lagged to the wall and it's great. My build thread page 13, post 245 is where the bench work starts.
 
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Maybe it's just me, but I see no need to use the metal brackets on the corners.

Yep it is just you. jk I got a budget of $150 for this bench and not only do I want it functional but I want it to double as a jackstand when doing oil changes on my suv. In fact I was even thinking about spray painting or power coating those brackets.

I show it close up in this video:

I have seen that video before. Your garage looks great and so does that work bench. How do I go about making a metal top like that. I have 0 skills when it come to metal fabing.


My current work bench does not move, but the top is 7/16" OSB + 3/4 ply + 1/8 masonite.

What is masonite?
 

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Hardboard. Usually 1/4 or 3/8 thick. Great for smooth work bench surface.
 

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I managed to score some old bowling alley lanes for my bench. About 2" thick and looks really cool.
Just moved it into my new shop tonight!:rocker:
 

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While my big bench currently holds my 3-in-1 sheet metal machine (1200 pounds), I built it to serve as a general workbench or assembly table, once I build a custom metal bench for the machine.

Some features of my bench:
- double 3/4" plywood top. This works very well for me...and can be turned up to 4 times for a fresh top, if needed.
- plenty of clamping space along the edges.
- horizontal member of the legs is at the perfect height to use my 12-ton, air-over-hydraulic bottle jack to lift it, and the 1200-pound machine, onto wheel dollies for moving around the shop.
- Legs with space for bolting down a vise on the corner of the bench.
- All through-bolt construction.
- 2x8 & 2x10 construction.
- Narrow enough to get through a standard man door.
- No bottom braces in the front, to allow you to sit at the bench or store rolling items under the bench...
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Kev, Nice bench. Now that is what I'm looking for!!! Heavy duty with a touch of overkill
 

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I like replaceable top,as the final surface.!/4" hdbd(masonite).

Heavy framing lumber under that.SYP(southern yellow pine)would be my pick these days.Its,value/availibilty/quality.But you need to go look and "shop" when buying it.It might be that the 2x6's are junk....but look at the 2x10's,and they're dang near perfect.Point being....buying wood isn't some pre-ordained,"must be this" proposition.You have to shop....wisely.
 

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Great looking ideas. I'm getting ready to build a mobile workbench for my shop. I'm thinking 3' x 7' because I have two salvaged sink base cabinets from a bathroom remodel (42" each) that I may use as part of the base. I have them just sitting in the shop with a sheet of plywood on them now and the drawers keep getting filled with things but the overall size with a sheet of plywood gets in the way....
 

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I have seen that video before. Your garage looks great and so does that work bench. How do I go about making a metal top like that. I have 0 skills when it come to metal fabing.


I had the top made at a metal fab. shop.
 

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oh...when you go to the lumberyard, spend the few extra dollars on kiln dried, instead of green wood. it won't cost much more for the small amount you are buying.
i agree with making a bench you can sit under.

kev
 
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The wheels came in handy when rolling it out into the driveway to work on in nice weather, and also when my neighbor towed it home with his 3-wheeler.

Steevo, I hope you got pictures of that... sounds like a two beer show. And I will be stealing your idea of having plugs on each side.

To the OP. The wheels really do come in handy for moving it around. I have a 2ftx4ft bench on wheels, couple sheets of 3/8" plywood over flat 2x4's make for a very solid surface. I've rebuilt heads, a ****** and many other things on this bench - even used it to weld on until I built my last welding table. Top gets wreaked or dirty or catches on fire:shocking: - just remove the old and put a new sheet on top.
 
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Re sikeward's bench in the OP: Good design. The metal corners accomplish 2 things:
1. It reinforces the wood framework. It's quite possible to make wood reinforcement but the metal makes it simpler and lighter, though light is not always good in workbenches.
2. It makes possible the use of lower quality wood. Oak or other hardwood would normally be my first choice for workbench construction, but this design makes the use of ordinary softwood framing lumber possible, at a lower price.

Good design. The metal parts could easily be welded up in the shop.

KEH
 

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The wheels came in handy when rolling it out into the driveway to work on in nice weather, and also when my neighbor towed it home with his 3-wheeler.
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How about tops?

I like the classic wood look. Currently I like my 2x6 top but I don't like that I have gaps between the boards. How can I use 2x6 or even 2x4's but eliminate the gaps? Kind of like a butcher block.
 

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How about tops?

I like the classic wood look. Currently I like my 2x6 top but I don't like that I have gaps between the boards. How can I use 2x6 or even 2x4's but eliminate the gaps? Kind of like a butcher block.

You can rip an 1/8 inch off of each side with a table saw and that will eliminate the gap when you glue it up. Or you can use an hand planer to flatten the edges. I used two SYP 2x12's on my workbench top, I used a $25 Harbor Freight electric planer on each edge and it glued up with no gap. I am currently in the process of applying polyurethane.
 

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Silly as this sounds I bought this handplaner because I like Ridgid powertools and it was on clearence. I have never had a use for it, let alone knowing what to do with it. I just knew the day would come when I would need a hand held planer. http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/100520688/5yc1v?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=ridgid+planer&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=100520688

So I can use this to make a top out of 2xwhatever. Great thanks for the info.

WHEELS. I like the idea just not sure I really want to move my bench. however the one design i'm going to copy is to be able to lift the bench with the floor jack. Great engineering.

Klin dried lumber. Now my gift cards are to homedepot. Would they carry this lumber? If I go over on budget a little because I should be buying oak instead of pine i'm up to the idea. What should I be building my bench out of? I promise when I begin construction next week I'll take pictures of the whole process. My thank you to you guys for your input.
 

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The only type of oak that Home Depot is going to have is plywood and various widths of 1x lumber. The 1x lumber they have comes in various lengths and is ready to finish (they call it appearance grade. It is already sanded and has straight edges, so there will be no prep work at all. But, it is expensive, and by they time you get enough to make a workbench top, you will likely be paying close to $200. If you want to use oak, I would say just to go to Ikea and buy their oak butcher block and cut it to the size you need.

I used SYP because it is cheap ($13 for a 2x12x10) and after doing some research, I found that many woodworkers use it for their workbench tops. When it is all said and done, my workbench top will have cost me about $53 ($78 if you include the cost of the HF planer). In reference to Kiln Dried, when I was shopping for lumber all of the SYP (2x4, 2x8, 2x10, 2x12) at Home Depot was Kiln Dried.
 

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If you choose to make a solid top, make sure you account for expansion of the wood. It will expand more the 'short' way, than the long way. If you glue together one, wide board, you have a couple of options for fastening to the bench.
- At the center of the DEPTH of the bench (I will use DEPTH to talk about the short distance on the top...the distance between the place where you stand in front of the bench and the wall), fasten the top to the support in the center with a heavy lag screw or two (drill up through the support and drill pilot holes in the bottom of the top), then do not fasten it anywhere else.

- Put lag screws from the bottom, up into the top, pretty much anywhere you want, but make sure you drill the holes in the cross braces big enough to really let the top move around (something like a 1/2" hole for a 5/16" lag screw. Use a fender bolt on the lag screw. You could pick a couple of places (again, the center of the short sides of the bench) to make the correctly-sized hole (5/16" hole for 5/16" lag screw), to keep the bench top from moving out of place in general.

- You could, of course, do any variation on this theme, as long as you keep the 'tight' lag screws in one line, in line with the LEAST movement of the wood (the long length). You could put a row of correctly-spaced lag screws across the front support of the bench, then use loosely-spaced holes for the holes in the short sides and the rear of the bench.

The whole point is that solid wood, unlike plywood, WILL MOVE. The larger the slab, the more movement you will have and the more you have to account for it. This seasonal movement is like heat from welding...it has significant power to move things around and will literally pull your bench apart, if you do not account for it.

That said, I think it's a great idea. If I was going to do it, I would get some kiln-dried pine 2x4's and make the top thick--3.5" thick, with the 'short' edge of the 2x4 on the top and bottom. I'd individually pick my boards to be absolutely straight. I would run one edge of each through the table saw, reset the saw, then run the opposite edge through the table saw.

You are going to need a LOT of clamps...or, you could make a caul. find a 2x4 with only a bow in it (no twist, just a bow) for each side of the bench top. Prep and glue the boards (always do a dry setup first...you won't have time for major problems, once the glue is drying). Use wax paper (from the kitchen) between the glued-up bench top and the cauls. place the tips of the caul against the ends of the bench (At the start of this process, the ends of the caul will touch the ends of the bench top boards, but the center will be bowed out a few inches). Put a clamp on the center of the caul and tighten until glue squeezes out everywhere. As you squeeze the centers of the cauls together, it will apply (relatively) even pressure across the whole length of the bench top. DEFINITELY practice this before you do it 'live.' There is a LOT that has to be done in a relatively short period of time and you want to practice it before a pint of glue is quickly drying on you. This is going to take a very hefty clamp or two or three or four (the classic Pony pipe clamp where you use your own black pipe--or the better, more modern, versions from Bessy and others.)

I like relatively narrow bench tops, because I like to be able to move my benches into the middle of the room and work all the way around them. I like 28" wide. That gets your bench through any man door. If you like a permanent bench against the wall, you may choose wider, if you like to put drill chargers and small sets of drawers and other supplies across the back, near the wall. That leaves you enough space to work on the bench. If I need a wider or longer bench, I'd much rather have two smaller benches with identical heights than one large bench. That gives you a great deal of versatility.

You can, of course, glue the 2x4's the narrow way, and make a 1.5" thick top. If I was going to go through this much effort, though I'd want a thick enough bench top to drop some jaws when people walk into the garage. I've seen some super straight 4x4s and 4x6s at Home Depot lately. That would certainly cut down on the work and you could still have a 4"-thick top.

I haven't done this, but if I wanted a solid top, that is the technique I would use. I hope it gives you a few ideas.

I personally really like the double 3/4" plywood top. Unbelievably durable. Unbelievably sturdy. Can be turned 3 times to give you a fresh surface. Dead flat. No seasonal movement. If you really do dirty stuff, then add one layer of tempered hardboard to the top. If you look at the top of the smaller bench I built with this top, I even cut some square bench dog holes in it (drilled a round hole, then squared it up with a chisel, then cut oak bench dogs to fit the holes). I also installed a basic woodworking vise on the front, right edge...
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NO MATTER what you do for the top, make sure you design the bench to give you a few inches to use clamps on all the edges. There is no single reason you will want to kick yourself later, than if you cannot properly clamp projects to an amazingly-steady bench (ask me how I know and ask me why I designed nearly six inches of clamping room into the front and back of my behemoth baileigh bench...
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Yikes! I'm typing and I cannot shut up...I'll let some others jump in here now.

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This is what I am replacing. I built this bench about 9 years ago when I was 21 and bought my first house. It has served me well but I know that I can do better. I would like to have a similar setup with the shelf and shop vac storage but i'm going to add sliding doors to the front made out of hardboard.

Machine punk. Thanks for the lengthy post. Now u got me thinking about using 2x4 on ends for my top. Think my jaw horse would work for clamping it together? Best case my neighbor has one I could ask borrow his and use two of them to clamp a top together.

btw the way my bench is 31" deep x 37" tall x 99" long. I'm going to use the same dim for my new bench.

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The laminated 2x4 workbench as described by Machine Punk is a great idea and makes a great benchtop. If you do a google search for "roubo workbench top" you will see that is how the tops are made for this type of workbench. They are gorgeous and very heavy duty.

I attempted to make this type of workbench top to replace the top on my craftsman workbench. Keep in mind I am in no way a woodworker, my woodworking skills and tools are limited (I have only a jigsaw, and trim saw, a router, and an electric planer). But, I am a handy guy, so I gave it a try. The resulting top was less than desirable, which is why I made my current one in the manner that I did. Based on my experience, here is what I would suggest:

1. At the length that you want to make, get at least 8 pipe clamps (the harbor freight 3/4" pipe clamps with the legs work pretty well). The more clamps the better. Be prepared to spend about $20 for each clamp ($10 for the clamp itself and $10 for a 36" piece of black pipe).

2. When selecting your lumber, take your time and pick the straightest boards that you can find. They are still going to warp and twist, but it is better to start with as straight a board as possible. The smallest amount of twist makes the glue up more difficult.

3. Ripping the boards on a table saw will yield better results than a planer (edge will be straighter)

4. For glue use Titebond 3 or Elmers Wood Glue Max. They both give you a slightly longer setup time. When gluing the boards, add one at a time and wait at least 30 minutes for the glue to dry between adding pieces. I tried gluing mine up in groups of 3, but the issue I ran into is that wood had started to twist, and generating enough force to get 3 boards flush is a lot harder than bending one.

5. Once all of your boards are glued up, you will need to flatten the top. The amount of twist in your wood will affect how much material you will need to remove. You can either use a planer or you can build a router sled. I built a router sled, which worked great, but I took off too much material and ended up ruining the top. Start out removing only 1/16 to 1/8". If you do decide to build a router sled, get at least a 1 inch straight router bit (1.75 inch is ideal, but expensive) so that you can make as few passes as possible. Also, routers produce an insane amount of sawdust and wood chips. I would move the whole rig outside. I'm still cleaning sawdust a month later. If you need tips on building a router sled, let me know and I can tell you what worked for me and what did not.

6. Some would suggest putting all-thread through the top. It is not necessary if you have good glue joints. If you still want you use it, good luck getting the holes straight. I tried to use all thread... Let's just say it didn't work as planned and I did more damage than good.


My efforts yielded a usable work surface of 4ft by 2ft, which would not work for my intended application. The good thing is the lumber and glue for this project only cost me about $55, so I didn't waste a large amount of money. All that said, I am definitely going to try this again, but I will need to do it at a later date when I have fewer other projects to work on. Hopefully my experience will be helpful to you.
 

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This is what I am replacing. I built this bench about 9 years ago when I was 21 and bought my first house. It has served me well but I know that I can do better. I would like to have a similar setup with the shelf and shop vac storage but i'm going to add sliding doors to the front made out of hardboard.

Machine punk. Thanks for the lengthy post. Now u got me thinking about using 2x4 on ends for my top. Think my jaw horse would work for clamping it together? Best case my neighbor has one I could ask borrow his and use two of them to clamp a top together.

btw the way my bench is 31" deep x 37" tall x 99" long. I'm going to use the same dim for my new bench.
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My pleasure. I am looking forward to seeing your final bench.

I have not used the jaw horse, but I think that is more than enough power...but I think you'll need more than one. Definitely mock up the clamping first...so you don't have any surprises once the glue is wet.

As you are planning this, I'd sit back and think about the times you've used your current workbench on the types of projects you usually do. Is there anything which has frustrated you? Is there any time you've thought, "I like this, but I just wish...?" Now is the time, in the planning phase, to fix those problems.

For me, I was frustrated EVERY time I tried to clamp a workpiece to the top of the smaller bench I built 15 years ago. I like a LOT about that bench, but it ***** for clamping stuff to the top. So, I moved the support pieces in, toward the middle of the bench, on the Behemoth Baileigh Bench. Do you want a woodworking or metalworking vise? Do you want to build in air or electrical outlets to the front (or at the wall, above the top)?

I would seriously consider building a bench with no obstructions underneath (no bottom shelf). I prefer to do leg bracing on three sides (left, right, and back), so I can sit at the bench and freely move stuff in and out from under the bench. I like 1-foot wide pieces of plywood for this this bracing (usually 3/4" thick)...gives fabulous rigidity, when fastened to the corner posts with lag screws. I think you will be happier with a rolling cabinet with sliding doors under your bench...for versatility in the future. But, that is just me...I like to be able to reconfigure stuff, when my needs change.

Definitely looking forward to seeing what you come up with!

Kev.
 

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How about tops?

I like the classic wood look. Currently I like my 2x6 top but I don't like that I have gaps between the boards. How can I use 2x6 or even 2x4's but eliminate the gaps? Kind of like a butcher block.

I put the plywood over top of the 2x6 top - for the same reason. And it makes "renewing" your bench as easy as replacing the plywood top.
 
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