Between 705 & 1200 SQ/FT Workshop Build 30x30x12 Ocala, FL

[wachuko]

Here is what I am thinking... suggestions are welcomed.

Porcelain tiles (less expensive than epoxy and more durable)
Bottom 4' of the walls covered with 3/4" pressure treated plywood
Batt insulation

For electrical, thinking of 110volts/20amps and 220 volts/30 or 50 amps outlets around all the walls. A few 110 volts/20amps in the ceiling as well and two next to the top side of the garage doors. After electrical is done, I then close the top 8' of wall. Thinking of using 3/4" OSB panels with Batt insulation as well.

I should run the air lines at the same time I do the electrical... so it is all done before closing the walls...

I wanted wood panels since it is easier to hang anything from them... But how do I finish the walls, so they look nice when applying a coat of paint? Some, those where grinding and welding stuff is, will be covered with aluminum or stainless-steel 4'x8' sheets, as suggested in the forum, but I need to see how I can finish the rest to look nice and smooth for painting.

Ceiling will be last, and I will pay someone to do that... I am not going to do the ceiling, afraid to fall doing that work... once done, it gets insulation as well... guessing the kind that they just pump in, like what they do in the houses around here.

Jackshaft garage doors motors.

Same three rows of LED lights.

A/C - have not decided to do a normal house-like unit or what... Since it will be running all the time, guessing it is more energy efficient to have one like I have in my house instead of inverter split units. I need to research this to see what works best. Again, suggestions are welcomed.

For shelving, was thinking of using pallet jack shelves. These can be configured to allow for the workbench and toolboxes, welding carts, machines, etc., to be under it while still allowing for storage on top area. Not sure if one side covered with those will be enough or if I will need to do both sides. 2' x 8' (or 10' if available) x 10' (not sure 12' would fit once tiles and ceiling are in place).

And I still want wall space for the pin-up girls calendar and all other cool signs .

As much as I would like everything to be the same... I will have to manage with the toolboxes I have now. Eventually, I want to get two 72' long toolboxes (U.S. GENERAL 72 in. x 22 in. Triple-Bank Roll Cab) and get rid of the ones I have now.

Install the two-post lift I have now... that is just drilling holes and installing anchors for the Max-Jax columns. Move the lathes, milling machine, car projects, etc.

That is all that I can think of for now...

 

[wachuko]

Forgot to share this... had this ramp from my father-in-law... not OSHA certified, lol. Just temporarily while I do the driveway and side steps (or ramp) to the doors.

 

[shortykorte]

On electric, sounds right. Think about spacing for outlets and whether you’re going with duplex or quads at each place.
3/4” could be overkill and expensive. In last shop I did 7/16 OSB, painted. After a while I haven’t noticed it’s OSB. Current shop got some old 26ga corrugated tin and topped it with 15/32 RTD sheathing. I have mounted things without issues. Also, you can add French cleats for more robust hanging. $30/sheet was easier on wallet than $50/sheet.

Another option for metal is getting roofing metal straight off the roll before being profiled. Is about 41” wide, any length, two different gauges, different colors. Here it was just over $3 per linear foot.
In the end, it’s what you need, what you like and what fits the budget.

 

[wachuko]

Back from some family related travel. Starting to move stuff from the garage in Orlando. But I need to install the electrical conduit and boxes, the insulation, and the plywood panels before I fill this up...




Placing the body back on the dolly



Small dent on emptying the garage in the old house... but at least it is progress!!




Let's go!



Arrived safely at Ocala...

 

[wachuko]

I am completely out of touch with electrical boxes... Here I thought that I was going to be able to do everything with PVC... But for the life of me, I can't find plastic boxes with regular knockouts. I am going to have to use metal boxes, so that means having to ground each box...

Is everyone just using Romex to wire everything??

Here I thought about having PVC conduit going from the boxes to the ceiling instead of routing anything through the 2x6...

 

[wachuko]

Well... purchased all the insulation (for all the walls) and plywood for the bottom 4' of the walls... let's see how this goes.

 

[cliffcharb]

I am completely out of touch with electrical boxes... Here I thought that I was going to be able to do everything with PVC... But for the life of me, I can't find plastic boxes with regular knockouts. I am going to have to use metal boxes, so that means having to ground each box...

Is everyone just using Romex to wire everything??

Here I thought about having PVC conduit going from the boxes to the ceiling instead of routing anything through the 2x6...

I had the same thought with plastic boxes. I ended up using MC cable and metal boxes as NM needs to be “protected” according to my inspectors. No conduit just clamped to the studs.

 

[Xti04]

I used mc and metal boxes in my shop. No need for conduit if you are using romex as its behind a wall. Just use regular plastic boxes and romex. If its going to be on the outside of the wall conduit and metal boxes or mc and metal boxes. Conduit looks good mc was faster for my setup.

 

[wachuko]

Thank you both… need to decide if I return all this and just go Romex…



And I can wire the 220 the same way?? EDIT: Nevermind, I see it comes in different gauge…

Of course you can tell I am ignorant when it comes to this… I am used to everything going via conduits…

 

[loganb]

Plastic vs metal boxes...everyone has a preference.

Mine...if surface mounting I would do metal boxes and conduit

If putting in the wall...plastic and romex

I personally don't like working with single gang boxes, so would use doubles everywhere and if only putting a single outlet in use a reducing plate

As to 20 amp outlets, I did that as well in my garage, honestly don't think it was worth it. Running 12 gauge wire is fine, but I have yet to find a tool that the 20 amp outlet was useful with and the receptacles are significantlymore money. Wiring the left and right receptacles on different breakers has been much more useful to me then 20 amp outlets/breakers on 120v circuits

 

[wachuko]

Plastic vs metal boxes...everyone has a preference.

Mine...if surface mounting I would do metal boxes and conduit

If putting in the wall...plastic and romex

I personally don't like working with single gang boxes, so would use doubles everywhere and if only putting a single outlet in use a reducing plate

As to 20 amp outlets, I did that as well in my garage, honestly don't think it was worth it. Running 12 gauge wire is fine, but I have yet to find a tool that the 20 amp outlet was useful with and the receptacles are significantlymore money. Wiring the left and right receptacles on different breakers has been much more useful to me then 20 amp outlets/breakers on 120v circuits

Single boxes are for the receptacles for each garage door motor, couple of receptacles in the ceiling, and a couple of single switches.

I prefer 20 amps for the 110 outlets… I have the garage in the house wired like that.

The lift is 110 and one of the welders as well… those benefit from 20-amp outlets.

I do like your idea of having side by side outlets on different circuits… did not think about that. I was going to have a circuit per wall for those…. I will copy your idea/suggestion. Cool!

 

[Xti04]

I did double boxes with single 20 amp outlets in my shop. Figured use an outlet rated for the rating of the circuit and they were only a dollar or so more than a 15a outlet. I have wired my shop in 3 sections. Each side wall is a single circuit and the back wall is a single circuit. Wish I had alternated them but I dont use a lot of power consumers in the shop. Mostly chargers and shop vac or a random grinder etc. Fridge and freezer got their own dedicated single circuit just to maoe sure I didnt trip it and ruin my food.

 

[wachuko]

...Fridge and freezer got their own dedicated single circuit just to maoe sure I didnt trip it and ruin my food.

The circuit for the fridge!!! Forgot about that one!!!

 

[wachuko]

Picked up the order today...



And offloaded everything just intime before the rain started!

 

[wachuko]

My ability to make mistakes is impressive… I could have sworn I bought long rolls to cut to 12’. Nope, I bought 8’ long pieces

 

[wachuko]

All for today

 

[wachuko]

Baby’s steps… slow progress…

 

[shortykorte]

On the north bay I did the surface mount quad box and conduit as shown in the picture above. Quads are around 4’ apart and are on two circuits.
The South Bay I will use plastic and Romex so there’s clean walls.

Good start on installation and panels. Definitely suggest getting walls done and painting before the shop gets to filled (like mine did)

 

[wachuko]

All bottom 4' of walls are done...





And unloaded the lift from the trailer...

 

[shortykorte]

Nice. Since you’re done and have time, how about a trip to Wakulla to share your skills?

 

[wachuko]

Nice. Since you’re done and have time, how about a trip to Wakulla to share your skills?

Done? Hahahahhahaa. Do you see the missing insulation on the top 8' of the walls? Or the lack of panels, or the lack of 2-gang boxes with the conduit?

I get distracted easily... so instead of resting I ended up ripping out the carpet in one room and installing some hardwood flooring...





I will be working in the workshop this weekend... to do the boxes and conduit, finish the insulation, and installing the top 8' of plywood (OSB).

 

[NYrr496]

This is a great thread. My wife and I recently purchased some land in Ocala. I will be doing the exact same thing. Not any time soon though. Still in NY.
Our place is in some area of Ocala that still has dirt roads.

 

[wachuko]

Baby steps…

 

[loganb]

Moving right along!

Edit: wood floor looks great too!

 

[wachuko]

Focus has been on getting the house in Orlando ready to sell it... but managed to get some work done in the ever-shrinking workshop. Almost done with installing the insulation on the walls.

 

[Xti04]

Funny how fast that big shop gets small isnt it?

 

[shortykorte]

We’re going to need a big boat.
What are the plans for roof insulation?

 

[wachuko]

We’re going to need a big boat.
What are the plans for roof insulation?

I plan to pay someone to do that... I am not doing that myself. Plan is to get someone to do the ceiling then get a company to shoot insulation up there.

Funny how fast that big shop gets small isnt it?

So true it is not even funny... I need to get the 10' pallet racks so I can use the height to my benefit... Those racks in the photos are just something I had to do temporarily because I could not find 2'x9'x10' racks...

 

[wachuko]

Almost done with installing the insulation. Only need to cut up the small pieces to install on the top part of the garage doors opening...






Went ahead and returned the leftover insulation. This free up a lot of space as well...





Installing the 3rd rack to start emptying the PODS... we are really not going to move again.... hate moves...





Regaining space little by little... focus this weekend is doing a bit of temporary organizing on the racks so I can make the space to empty the PODS container... I should also, if I get help, be able to move the two project cars from the garage in the house, to the shop.

 

[wachuko]

 

[wachuko]

Now I can move the two cars in the garage here... cousin stopping by over the weekend to help me with that...




I know this is not the smartest way to go about it since I have to move everything to do the electrical, but right now I need to empty that PODS container that is sitting on my driveway...

 

[Xti04]

May not be the easy move to empty the pod but its the smart financial move. Mine was almost 300 a month. That money goes a long ways towards electrical components and other garage goodies. If you have to move the stuff around a bunch it just gives you a better idea of where it belongs in the shop.

 

[wachuko]

Was playing around with the drone... Many things in the works/pending: We need to redo the lawn and irrigation system. Build the driveway to the workshop. Replace the two 16' long raised planters (in back, on the left) with a greenhouse. Replace the three sails in the lanai with a pergola.




Quick video... second time using the drone... so be gentle

 

[wachuko]

Now to start organizing the garage in the house to finish emptying the PODS...

Pushed one of the projects out...




Swapped the two dollies with four from HF... and moved the second project car









And moved the milling machine in front of the lathe.



The idea is to be able to build a barrier/wall to avoid chips getting to the side of the double garage. Where my wife's car will be parked inside the garage for the first time in 30 years

 

[wachuko]

Done for today… I was able to hang the table for the 1:32 scale track and got a few more machines out of the PODS…

 

[shortykorte]

So the garage will be the wife’s car, a project car and the machine shop whereas the restoration shop and project cars?

 

[wachuko]

The double garage is for my wife to park her car. There is a rolling toolbox, and my desk to work on the stuff for the 1:32 scale race track, and we will also place a second fridge there.

Single garage is where all the metal lathes and mills will be.

The workshop is where I will work on my car projects. Next, I will move that car (and the one now in the driveway, to the workshop.

I needed to do all this quickly to avoid paying another month for the PODS.

At least, that is the plan…

Well, on other news, I can finally say that we have officially completed the move from Orlando.


PODS is empty!!!

To celebrate, I installed a poster I had stashed away for the last 15-18 years…. You see, my daughter, back then, did not let me put it up on the wall…. So it, along with that year’s calendar, were kept stashed away all this time. Now that she is all grownup and with her own place, I can finally hang the poster.

As I read here in the forum, every decent garage/workshop, should have at least one…


Quick zoom…

 

[wachuko]

In the afternoons, after work, I have been moving stuff around to find their final place... this is without removing the boxes and things that do not belong, that were moved into the garage just to empty the PODS. So after I am done moving all that as well, I am very optimistic that this single garage space will work out for my metal work machine needs. Leaving the new workshop only for working on the cars and motorcycles.

Sharing a few photos of the progress...

I need to finish the CNC setup of the G0704...



I will build an enclosure for the filter/water softener. About 5' or 6' tall. And strong enough that I can use the top cover as a shelf.



I am so looking forward to using the stove to learn how to do powder coating.



I need to move the Logan lathe a little bit more towards the front. To setup the motor support... And I really should sell the 9x20... I also need to move the big lathe away from the wall, enough so that the gantry crane can roll behind it... Did not think about that when I placed it there.

PODS should be gone by Monday afternoon...

 

[shortykorte]

Congrats on finalizing the move.
Yes, every man’s car shop needs pics of gorgeous hood ornaments.

 

[wachuko]

Made some progress... moved the project cars to the workshop...








Now to organize the other side and also the house garage...