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Would you consider this a professional overhead door installation?

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I had a new 16' wide overhead door installed on my garage last week, by a local outfit that specializes in such. I'm not impressed with their work, but this being my first such purchase, maybe I am expecting too much, so I'm seeking opinions here.

The previous door was original to the house, and thus predated my ownership by a few decades. It was a 55-ish year-old 16x7' solid wood door. The shop sent out a technician two months ago to measure and inspect the existing door, before ordering the new one, as is standard. The new door is 16 x 6' 9", so 3 inches shorter than the original. The 2 1/2" gap between the top of the door and the bottom of the door-opening is covered by a weather-strip, but this seems sloppy to me. Also, because the new door is shorter, its horizontal tracks sit about 4" lower than the old ones, costing me some space. The "garage" is actually my wood and metal shop, and hasn't had a motorized vehicle in it for some time -- but if I wanted to park my F-150 in it now, I'm not sure that I could. Also, I am sure that I will hit the new door at some point, while moving around lumber or metal, which isn't great. The senior man of the installation pair told me some story about why the new door should be smaller, but, well, I don't trust him ( now, and I should not have before ). I didn't appreciate the degree of difference until they'd already destroyed my old door, at which point, I was, well committed.

Rather than replace the track hangers at the rear, they bolted on little extensions, which again, seems sloppy to me. The horizontal supports for the tracks are spaced out from the garage's front wall by crooked scraps of what appears to be balsa or similar, which doesn't seem likely to be long-lasting.

The two guys who installed the door had to make at least three attempts to get the tracks into a manageable position. I didn't watch them work, but I checked in on them every half-hour or so ( it took them 5 hours to R&R ) and twice they were in the middle of testing, and, with disappointment, said to each other that they were going to have to do it over yet again. They might've made more attempts while I wasn't watching. In one instance, the left-hand track was obviously skewed outward 15-ish degrees to the naked eye.

I have pictures of what I consider to be the questionable bits, but I only just re-registered here today, so I rather doubt I can post them yet. I used to have an account here, many years ago, but I'll be damned if I can remember any details.

The door shop is allegedly ISO certified, and 38 years old -- per their site, anyway. Not obviously fly-by-night.


So, does this sound like I got what I paid relatively handsomely for, which was supposed to be a professional door installation?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Sounds to me like that outfit doesn't specialize in installing doors. We had a door installer come, and one man replaced the whole front door of our house and the other replaced both single garage doors by himself in less than eight hours, and that included removing the old doors and loading up all the stuff they removed.doors (8).JPGdoors (9).JPGDSCN1051.JPG
 

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I had a new 16' wide overhead door installed on my garage last week, by a local outfit that specializes in such. I'm not impressed with their work, but this being my first such purchase, maybe I am expecting too much, so I'm seeking opinions here.

The previous door was original to the house, and thus predated my ownership by a few decades. It was a 55-ish year-old 16x7' solid wood door. The shop sent out a technician two months ago to measure and inspect the existing door, before ordering the new one, as is standard. The new door is 16 x 6' 9", so 3 inches shorter than the original. The 2 1/2" gap between the top of the door and the bottom of the door-opening is covered by a weather-strip, but this seems sloppy to me. Also, because the new door is shorter, its horizontal tracks sit about 4" lower than the old ones, costing me some space. The "garage" is actually my wood and metal shop, and hasn't had a motorized vehicle in it for some time -- but if I wanted to park my F-150 in it now, I'm not sure that I could. Also, I am sure that I will hit the new door at some point, while moving around lumber or metal, which isn't great. The senior man of the installation pair told me some story about why the new door should be smaller, but, well, I don't trust him ( now, and I should not have before ). I didn't appreciate the degree of difference until they'd already destroyed my old door, at which point, I was, well committed.

Rather than replace the track hangers at the rear, they bolted on little extensions, which again, seems sloppy to me. The horizontal supports for the tracks are spaced out from the garage's front wall by crooked scraps of what appears to be balsa or similar, which doesn't seem likely to be long-lasting.

The two guys who installed the door had to make at least three attempts to get the tracks into a manageable position. I didn't watch them work, but I checked in on them every half-hour or so ( it took them 5 hours to R&R ) and twice they were in the middle of testing, and, with disappointment, said to each other that they were going to have to do it over yet again. They might've made more attempts while I wasn't watching. In one instance, the left-hand track was obviously skewed outward 15-ish degrees to the naked eye.

I have pictures of what I consider to be the questionable bits, but I only just re-registered here today, so I rather doubt I can post them yet. I used to have an account here, many years ago, but I'll be damned if I can remember any details.

The door shop is allegedly ISO certified, and 38 years old -- per their site, anyway. Not obviously fly-by-night.


So, does this sound like I got what I paid relatively handsomely for, which was supposed to be a professional door installation?

Thanks in advance.

Needs pics when you can, 2-3" short sounds ridiculous.

Not sure what an ISO registered garage door install company would be...and I've done a lot of ISO work.
 
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Not sure what an ISO registered garage door install company would be...and I've done a lot of ISO work.

ISO 2022:99 per their site, whatever that is. Maybe I was bamboozled.


Sounds to me like that outfit doesn't specialize in installing doors.

They do. Their name is ________ Garage Doors, and repair and installation appears to be the entirety of their business.

Will attempt to post some pictures.
 

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What size are each of the panels? 7' door is typically (4) 21" panels. Sounds like they have a single 18" panel in there to get 6'9". If opening / original door is 7' then they screwed up on the initial measurement. At minimum, you should point this out and insist on a correctly sized door.
 

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ISO 2022:99 per their site, whatever that is. Maybe I was bamboozled.




They do. Their name is ________ Garage Doors, and repair and installation appears to be the entirety of their business.

No shame in outing then, those pics already look terrible...
 

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They had to shim things. That's not uncommon when there isn't an adjustment. Looks like like luan than balsa. It'll be ok.

Did they use the existing hardware for the ends of the rails? If so, adding extensions was cheaper and easier and faster than replacing it all.
 

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The track shouldn't have had to been any lower because of the door. Sounds like they messed up their initial measurements.
 

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ISO means they have processes. It doesn't mean they are any good. The process can be completely wrong, but as long as they follow it, they are compliant.

Correct, to a degree. I just can't figure out what process they are claiming compliance to
 

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Could be anything. Might be:

SOP-01A
Step 1, provide quote.
Step 2, do work.
Step 3, get paid.
I hope you don't think it's really that simple....

I don't want to detract from this trainwreck install, so we can argue the finer points of ISO compliance some other day.

I'm just curious what standard they are compliant to
 
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What size are each of the panels? 7' door is typically (4) 21" panels. Sounds like they have a single 18" panel in there to get 6'9". If opening / original door is 7' then they screwed up on the initial measurement. At minimum, you should point this out and insist on a correctly sized door.

This is my suspicion as well.

I'll be damned -- I did not notice, but I just measured, and you are correct. There are (3) 21" panels and (1) 18".
 

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I hope you don't think it's really that simple....

I don't want to detract from this trainwreck install, so we can argue the finer points of ISO compliance some other day.

I'm just curious what standard they are compliant to
We are ISO:9001. no it's not quite that simple, but to a degree it is. It's not a testament to the quality of work done. I'll have to look up ISO:2022. I'm so glad I don't work in the plant anymore. My boss always told me on audit days, go be scarce because the product I worked on was inherited from another facility and the whole thing was a CF.
 
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They had to shim things. That's not uncommon when there isn't an adjustment. Looks like like luan than balsa. It'll be ok.

Did they use the existing hardware for the ends of the rails? If so, adding extensions was cheaper and easier and faster than replacing it all.

I understand using shims, but for an installation that ought to last decades, I'd expect better than crookedly-placed scraps, some of which are already splitting. Even better would be to use hardware of sufficient length that it can be bolted to the wall directly.

Yes, they left in-place the hangers which supported the rear end of the tracks -- but because the new door sits so much lower, they had to bolt in those extensions shown above. Doing so was likely easier, but I am not sure that it was cheaper, because I certainly didn't get a discount.
 

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They work may be fine, but their communication with customer is awful.

they should have informed you of the condition before the install and let you make the choice
 
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They work may be fine, but their communication with customer is awful.

they should have informed you of the condition before the install and let you make the choice

I am kicking myself now, but I figured if they came out and measured everything in-person, I didn't need to double-check their work, and they would quote and deliver the appropriately-sized unit. They are the professionals, supposedly. Maybe not.

Was kind-of hoping someone here was going to advise that it is common for some reason to do as they did.
 
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I think the key issue is that older homes have more variables than the newer homes. Over time things got more standard

my girlfriend has an older home and it had the two garage doors.
she wanted to go to one big door.
called someone out that explained to her that the new opening would need to be narrower and a bit shorter, or they will have it go to custom garage doors (more time and money).

she choose to let them put the new header in, and reframe the opening to-the proper size. They then patched the plaster and painted the trim and the plaster to match the house.

several years later and on the outside you still cannot tell that there was a change made.
inside you can see what work was done.

they were professional.
 

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Sounds like you need to call the office and ask questions. Ask why there is a gap … sounds like somebody mis-measured. Ask the owner to come look at the installation. Did yo7 pay with credit card? Call and dispute the charge.
 

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it is standard for the USA today with the way so many substandard things get approved. I'd call the company owner. If you chose a good well-known company they should make it right. If you took the lowest bid from a newbee, you may have a hard time getting it made right. If so, call the company that provided the door to them and see what they suggest. They need to know so their name isn't destroyed too by these people.
 
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Sounds like you need to call the office and ask questions. Ask why there is a gap … sounds like somebody mis-measured. Ask the owner to come look at the installation. Did yo7 pay with credit card? Call and dispute the charge.

I plan to call them tomorrow and ask questions.
 

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I went out for a HVAC system replacement in a home. When I got there the overhead door guy was there and hadn't been there long, he had the opener taken down was all.

Three hours later he was gone. New 8×16 door and rails and opener. And it looked like a nice job too. The door opened smoothly.
 

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2-3" gap!? Let us know what they say tomorrow..

I just had 3 8x10's with all new rails and openers, small father/son shop had them done in a full day. What did they charge for labor? or was it an "installed" price?
 

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I tore out a 7’x16’ fiberglass core put yp in 1970 last summer, and installed a take out steel door and opener. I hired the high school kid from next door to help, since I had hurt my back a few weeks prior. He had never done a door install before but was a fast learner.

Took us four hours total, including at least a half hour trouble shooting the opener, and loading the old door, rails, and opener on the trailer, and then cutting up the door so the transfer station would take it.

The kid did most of the work, since couldn’t lift my arms above my head at the time. I gave him $200.
 
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The only questions I would ask is why they didn't install a 7' door, and when are they coming out to correct it.

The first is definitely on the agenda.

Does anyone know if one can typically order single panels from door manufacturers? As noted above, 75% of the panels they installed are the correct size. If they can order just one more, and install it ( and re-do the tracks, of course ) that would seemingly correct the problem without an entirely-new door.
 

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The first is definitely on the agenda.

Does anyone know if one can typically order single panels from door manufacturers? As noted above, 75% of the panels they installed are the correct size. If they can order just one more, and install it ( and re-do the tracks, of course ) that would seemingly correct the problem without an entirely-new door.
The vertical tracks would need to be changed also as they are too short.
Actually you can install higher vertical tracks to raise the open height of the door, 7' is a pretty common size a shorter top panel would be custom order makes me wonder if they were trying to get rid of something they ordered wrong.
 

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The first is definitely on the agenda.

Does anyone know if one can typically order single panels from door manufacturers? As noted above, 75% of the panels they installed are the correct size. If they can order just one more, and install it ( and re-do the tracks, of course ) that would seemingly correct the problem without an entirely-new door.

If you go with the taller panel, does it shift the window above the trim?

Only remote excuse I can think of...
 

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I think 7' doors are short to begin with and have put 8' doors in when we built this place. I would be very unhappy with loosing a few more inches.

Should be able to order a single panel. If the current company won't fix it or work with you I would be checking other local dealers for the same brand door. We had ours installed by a local company and they did ok. But years later when a spring broke they didn't have the extended cycle count springs for replacement in stock and we went with a larger company across town that got us fixed up quickly. Also had some issues with needing a bigger strut across the top to minimize bowing during cold weather (door with inner and outer skins). Main point being you might find a company that is easier to work with to fix it if the current company won't make it right. And unfortunately sometimes it seems easier to just do stuff yourself.

Your pics don't show what I was looking to see. The shim and extension doesn't bother me much but would be good to have wider shots. For example to show the whole vertical piece. Pic of the top of the outside of the door? If the door is 3" short what did they do for the gap at the top?

Raising the track shouldn't be too bad. The vertical section will be a bit short. Could probably cut 3" off the end of the horizontal section to splice on or pick up a short section of track for the extensions. There's a place near Chicago that a lot of people here have used for high lift conversions. Don't have the link handy but should be easy to find with a search here and if you get really stuck for track parts they could help you out.
 

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Your pics don't show what I was looking to see. The shim and extension doesn't bother me much but would be good to have wider shots. For example to show the whole vertical piece. Pic of the top of the outside of the door? If the door is 3" short what did they do for the gap at the top?

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A garage door should be sized to match the rough opening. Measure from the ground to the bottom edge of supporting beam above the door. And just because a door is shorter does not mean the track needs to be any lower than your original door. In fact, why did you have them replace the track at all? Also, why did they need to shim the vertical track? Is the wall out of plumb?

Now, fixing all this isn't that difficult. Replace the 18 inch panel with a 21 inch panel. Get a high lift kit for the tracks and really get them out of the way. Doing this to start with would have been cheaper, but that ship has sailed.

Just my opinion, but EVERY garage door should be ordered with a high lift kit. It adds very little to the upfront cost and gets the tracks and open door out of the way much more.

And pics are for sure needed.
 
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