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Ratcheting wrenches are something I believe I want and need.

These are just about an absolute must have item on modern cars. They save a lot of time and can reach a nut/bolt that would otherwise be very difficult, if not impossible to reach. If you get the non-reverseable type, just be careful not to back them up against anything, they kinda get stuck.
 
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So I bought that same socket set before thanksgiving. It was a great price and I am very, very happy with it. Some of the ez-reads are coming off but with that many sockets an socket organizer is mandatory. Lowes has some nice ones. I find the 12 pts helpful in tight spots. I also like the Kobalt sockets as well. I have found the 3, 6, 12 extension to work great, but I prefer them with knurled center. Helps with slippery hands. I have multiple sets of each size.

I also really like the RP wrenches, but I find them a bit small for lockitited things. So I got a set of KT Pro wrenches that a bit longer, high quality, and not that expensive. I have also add some VERY long pattern single wrenchs off of ebay (14mm SK and 17mm Supercombo torqurer Williams.) I also have set of Genuis ratcheting wrench but would like to add some reversible ratcheting wrenches in the future. Helps speed things up!

As for a Ratchet, I would get a couple. I have mostly high tooth ratchets that I have gotten off of ebay (SO F80, Matco 60 tooth short and long) and have the Armstrong 88. But I also have a coarse tooth matco (same insides as a Craftsman RP) for oil changes and "I don't care if this ratchet falls on the concrete" type work. It nice to have more then one so you can load up before starting. The Kobalt ratchet isn't bad for the money....not the smoothest high tooth ratchet in the world but it is dual pawl.....its the standard Taiwan high tooth ratchet.

For pliers, I really like Channellocks pliers as well as their oil filter plier....very helpful in the tight spot. I also have pair of Klien, Knipex, and Craftsman....all great...I am not a fan of the Kobalts.....aways seem to stick open when working with one hand.

One suggest I found really helpful from the board was using cardboard pop boxes (like the ones from Costco) to put tools and bolts/nuts in while working on the car. Its cheap, easy to use, and helps keep things organized. Also, recommend plummers silicone tape....great for oil drain bolts (tip from my Bro-inlaw who is a tech.)

Have fun!

I think that I'm gonna like that set, the easy to read doesn't bother me too much. I'll have some socket organizers to help with that just like you said. I like the kobalt sockets, but I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible with decent quality and I think craftsman it where its at for me. My local lowes has an extension universal kit on clearance for $15 I think I'm going to pickup. They also had an oil filter wrench for $4, I'll get this also.

I was debating whether or no I need longer wrenches, I'm not the weakest guy in the bunch so I don't know how necessary they are. If anything I'll get the longer ratcheting wrenches to have a compromise or having 3 full sets of wrenches.

I've been debating the armstrong ratchets, but my real concern is nowhere to exchange them if they get broken.. That's why I'm thinking Kobalt ratchets for me and COO doesn't bother me or the bolts they are on. Plus they have all the options from pivot head to flex head back to solid head and they are all fine tooth..

The pliers are ok, I love the channellock pliers that I do own. But they are too expensive for pliers. I'm think the SK 5 plier kit when I do upgrade the pliers.

I brought a bunch of card board home from work today actually.

I know they are considered 'old school' and 'outdated' but I find that a simple $30 vacuum gauge can tell you a lot about what an engine is doing. It is especially helpful if you don't have access to a scan tool. The second item that I think you'll find most helpful is a good multimeter. I'm not saying run out and buy a Fluke 88V (unless you want one) but don't cheap out too much.

Lastly, get a good hammer. you'll either use it to fix the car right or fix it beyond repair.

Happy wrenching... :beer:

I have a vacuum gauge from a previous science project that I built. Check on one of those!

I have a higher end ideal meter that I've been using at my current job.

These are just about an absolute must have item on modern cars. They save a lot of time and can reach a nut/bolt that would otherwise be very difficult, if not impossible to reach. If you get the non-reverseable type, just be careful not to back them up against anything, they kinda get stuck.

What would be a decent inexpensive kit of SAE and Metric ratcheting wrenches? I hear the gear wrench is the way to but that's 250 in wrenches alone..
 

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In my experience of wrenching on things around the house...you will never use 90% of the sockets in that 176pc set. Buy a small set of 3/8 and 1/4 metric. A few common sizes of SAE (I know that honda only has metric and I bet that grand am and the ford are 80%+ metric).

Its been a while since Ive been near a honda (I had a 98 Civic and a few friends had hondas that I worked on) and IIRC all I EVER used was a 8mm, 10, 12, 14, 17, 19, and 21. Then an axle nut socket and a crank pulley socket. A few philips screwdrivers. Hand impact for the ridiculous (I wish I could meet that engineer :eyecrazy:) philips #3 screws on the brakes. Impact gun. I could easily fit it all in a 5 drawer roller.

Don't buy 1/2 inch chrome - just buy Impact sockets. Get them from sunex or gray pneumatic or harbor freight. Pretty much all of them are tough.

Don't get caught up in having a huge drawer full of sockets. Unless you are wrenching on everything under the sun all day every day, most of them will collect rust.

p.s. If I was starting all over....I would buy this set. 111 quality pieces that you can really use. You can even catch it on ebay for a good price.

http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/SABSE111P/111-PC-SILVER-EAGLE-GENERAL-SERVICE-SET/

add a 5pc set of basic pliers, an air compressor, a mid-range impact gun, a small set of impact sockets (sunex, HF, grey pneumatic), a couple of cheap Harbor freight hammers and pry bars, special tools as you need them (crank pulley socket, axle nut socket), and stick it all in some cheap cabinet. You could be set up pretty nice for a little over $1000. And you can do a LOT of work.
 
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In my experience of wrenching on things around the house...you will never use 90% of the sockets in that 176pc set. Buy a small set of 3/8 and 1/4 metric. A few common sizes of SAE (I know that honda only has metric and I bet that grand am and the ford are 80%+ metric).

Its been a while since Ive been near a honda (I had a 98 Civic and a few friends had hondas that I worked on) and IIRC all I EVER used was a 8mm, 10, 12, 14, 17, 19, and 21. Then an axle nut socket and a crank pulley socket. A few philips screwdrivers. Hand impact for the ridiculous (I wish I could meet that engineer :eyecrazy:) philips #3 screws on the brakes. Impact gun. I could easily fit it all in a 5 drawer roller.

Don't buy 1/2 inch chrome - just buy Impact sockets. Get them from sunex or gray pneumatic or harbor freight. Pretty much all of them are tough.

Don't get caught up in having a huge drawer full of sockets. Unless you are wrenching on everything under the sun all day every day, most of them will collect rust.

p.s. If I was starting all over....I would buy this set. 111 quality pieces that you can really use. You can even catch it on ebay for a good price.

http://www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/SABSE111P/111-PC-SILVER-EAGLE-GENERAL-SERVICE-SET/

add a 5pc set of basic pliers, an air compressor, a mid-range impact gun, a small set of impact sockets (sunex, HF, grey pneumatic), a couple of cheap Harbor freight hammers and pry bars, special tools as you need them (crank pulley socket, axle nut socket), and stick it all in some cheap cabinet. You could be set up pretty nice for a little over $1000. And you can do a LOT of work.

I have a whole set of HF impacts already, I really just need the sockets. While the matco kit seems like a decent deal it has things I already own and don't intend to replace. US made Craftsman RP wrenches.
 
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In my experience of wrenching on things around the house...you will never use 90% of the sockets in that 176pc set.
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Its been a while since Ive been near a honda (I had a 98 Civic and a few friends had hondas that I worked on) and IIRC all I EVER used was a 8mm, 10, 12, 14, 17, 19, and 21. Then an axle nut socket and a crank pulley socket. A few philips screwdrivers. Hand impact for the ridiculous (I wish I could meet that engineer :eyecrazy:) philips #3 screws on the brakes. Impact gun. I could easily fit it all in a 5 drawer roller.

Don't buy 1/2 inch chrome - just buy Impact sockets. Get them from sunex or gray pneumatic or harbor freight. Pretty much all of them are tough.

Don't get caught up in having a huge drawer full of sockets. Unless you are wrenching on everything under the sun all day every day, most of them will collect rust.

My wrenching is limited to my own cars, moto, and bicycles. Since the mid-80s when I started driving, I've only owned Honda, Toyota, and Subaru's, and completely agree with your tool selection.

Over the last few years I've slowly been upgrading to SO tools (got hooked with a 1/2" ratchet), and really there hasn't been a lot to buy. I do find the chrome 1/2" to be useful in the larger sizes, since they'll fit places my (bulkier) Craftsman 1/2" deep impacts won't, and I don't need to use an adapter to put them on the longer-handled 1/2" ratchet or breaker bar.

Recently I needed a 32mm impact for the Subaru's axle nut and found the Craftsman price (loose, since I don't think it's sold in a set), was only ~$1-2 different than the SO. I didn't look at any other brands, so maybe there was something much cheaper, but if and when I need another large impact, I'll buy it then, rather than let a whole set likely sit unused.
 

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My wrenching is limited to my own cars, moto, and bicycles. Since the mid-80s when I started driving, I've only owned Honda, Toyota, and Subaru's, and completely agree with your tool selection.

Over the last few years I've slowly been upgrading to SO tools (got hooked with a 1/2" ratchet), and really there hasn't been a lot to buy. I do find the chrome 1/2" to be useful in the larger sizes, since they'll fit places my (bulkier) Craftsman 1/2" deep impacts won't, and I don't need to use an adapter to put them on the longer-handled 1/2" ratchet or breaker bar.

Recently I needed a 32mm impact for the Subaru's axle nut and found the Craftsman price (loose, since I don't think it's sold in a set), was only ~$1-2 different than the SO. I didn't look at any other brands, so maybe there was something much cheaper, but if and when I need another large impact, I'll buy it then, rather than let a whole set likely sit unused.

I much prefer to buy the whole set when it comes to sockets and wrenches. I will usually only buy sets that fall in a normal size range though rather than one that goes to the extreme big or extreme small sizes. I don't want to be caught in the middle of a job and not have a certain size I need. I agree that most of the time people won't use a lot of the sizes, but its worth it to have them around when you need them on occasion. Its better to buy many sockets in a set for 60cents each rather than singles at close to 10 bucks.

Keep in mind Snappy doesn't give discounts for sets, so it might not be beneficial if you want this brand.
 

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You can buy an Armstrong ratchet repair kit for that model on Amazon for $20. Comes with everything needed to rebuild it. But you shouldn't need tor repair it, its very solid. Comparing it to the Kobalt is like comparing apples to oranges....not even in the same league. The kobalt is fine tooth but its not even close to as nice in quality and use as the Armstrong. The Armstrong is in the league with SO. If you do get the Kobalt, it needs greased badly...very dry.

I understand you thoughs on the wrenchs....I am 6'6 and not the weakest person in the world, but when in tight spaces its hard to get down on some of these locktited bolt (a lot of them use red locktite.) I also didn't want to many sets thats why I boughts some singles off of ebay I know that will be used for when things are tight. Plus, the RP wrenches I had weren't a complete set, so the KT filled the void. If you get ratcheting wrenches, stay away from the current craftsman/gearwrench. I unfortunately have a set and they are ****. You can get some USA made Craftsman ratcheting wrenches on ebay from $30.


Channellocks are a good plier...do a search on pliers you find they are highly recommended and easy to replace.
If you want a super upgrade try some Knipex....they are the SO of pliers and make everything feel super smooth.

You asked a great question and a lot of people have good reasons why they believe in their choices. Listen well and you find where to spend your money and where not to.
 

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I started with a 192 pc craftsman plastic case set and have built off of that and have got some really killer tools from members here and it started a a very fun hunt for great high quality tools and for the most part all have been used or on sale. I have a lot of duplicates and they have now stand at the ready in my off road tool bag. Be patient and buy inexpensively by finding used and on sale stuff but do not sacrifice quality and splurge on the specialty tools that you need. There are deals everyday everywhere so just keep your eyes open. I love building my tool selection up and it's still growing.

Craftsman c3 impact is a great addition to what i mentioned above.
 

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What would you recommend for a serpentine tool? The HF one gets spotty reviews saying the samething..

gearwrench 3680 serp belt kit is really nice for the money and will do most anything.

want, yes. 45 year later, I have never "needed" them.

unless you like making everything you do harder than it needs to be ratcheting wrenches are 100% required, especially in todays cramped vehicle compartments. 45 years ago you could practically climb into the engine compartment, now you're lucky if you can find a spot to get your fist into.
 
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A birthday present from my mom, I picked up some channellock 4 pack of pliers and cutters today. They are so much better quality than my kobalt pliers. Also picked some china made husky vise grips, they feel pretty good actually but for 10 bucks I'm not that worried about them.
 

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My buddy has the same car. Has a timing chain so maintenance is a little more easier :lol:

All you need is a basic socket set for that Honda. Breaker bars are a must.

Hose clamp pliers will save you a lot of aggravation when it time to remove hoses.

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These are good for a lot of V6+ cars, but for his honda, you won't need anything more than channel locks.

Honestly if you are just doing regular maintenance or fixups in your driveway, just bring like $200 with you to harbor freight and go to town.
 
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These are good for a lot of V6+ cars, but for his honda, you won't need anything more than channel locks.

Honestly if you are just doing regular maintenance or fixups in your driveway, just bring like $200 with you to harbor freight and go to town.

For right now that is what it is, but I have this dream of building a sick little civic out of my civic one day. So I'd like to get some decent tools while I have spare cash..

Like engine and trans swaps. Going from a K20A3 to a K24A2 and a rsx type-s 6 speed ****** the whole bit..
 
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I think I'm going to place an order with epstiens within the next two weeks for one fixed 88t Armstrong ratchet and a 88t flex head ratchet. Everyone has talked them up. I'm sold.
 

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For right now that is what it is, but I have this dream of building a sick little civic out of my civic one day. So I'd like to get some decent tools while I have spare cash..

Like engine and trans swaps. Going from a K20A3 to a K24A2 and a rsx type-s 6 speed ****** the whole bit..

Go with a K24a2 bottom end and a K20a head, with a type-r (LSD) trans. You won't regret it!

Trust me, harbor freight and craftsman tools are more than enough to get the job done, most of my home box is harbor frieght and craftsman, and I have built a 478hp Eagle Talon, and I am building a 500hp Turbo LSVTEC integra right now, all in my driveway, with those tools.
 

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I think I'm going to place an order with epstiens within the next two weeks for one fixed 88t Armstrong ratchet and a 88t flex head ratchet. Everyone has talked them up. I'm sold.


The flex heads are not 88 tooth. Only the 1/4 and 3/8 fixed ratchets are 88 tooth.

Epsteins had a typo on their website saying the flex ratchet was 88 tooth, but they fixed it.

The flex ratchets are 60 tooth. I have one and it is a great tool, but it's not 88 tooth.
 

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I like the SK green box sets at Epsteins, will probably pick up a set of 1/4 and 3/8 here soon. Most of what you need, little of what you dont, and 6 pt.
 

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So three pages later, where are you at? Make a comprehensive list of what you have, what is high on your to get list, and what is on the list but for later, and post it. Then we can make a better comprehensive response to what you are likely to need besides what you have or have planned...
 
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Go with a K24a2 bottom end and a K20a head, with a type-r (LSD) trans. You won't regret it!

Trust me, harbor freight and craftsman tools are more than enough to get the job done, most of my home box is harbor frieght and craftsman, and I have built a 478hp Eagle Talon, and I am building a 500hp Turbo LSVTEC integra right now, all in my driveway, with those tools.

That combination was the plan. But I'm having a tough time finding an LSD type-r ****** that I won't have to rebuid right away. I know where I can pick up a type-s trans for 400 bucks and then slap an LSD diff into it.

I'll make a list when I got home tonight from work.
 
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Things that I currently own.
1/4, 3/8, 1/2 solid head ratchets(Kobalt, Husky, Old Craftsman)
1/4 shallow sockets SAE and MM
1/2 drive impacts 10 to 32mm and 7/16 to 1 - 1/4in
Craftsman screwdriver set
1/2 drive Torx set T20 to T60
3/8 and 1/2 Pittsburgh torque wrenches
Adjustable pliers 6in to 12in
10in vise grips
ideal multi-meter
6pt craftsman MM RP wrenches 7mm to 18mm
12pt craftsman SAE RP wrenches 1/4in to 7/8in
Husky 250ft lbs impact wrench
Ridgid 12v drill
Milwakee 12v impact driver
Allen keys(want ratchet driven ones)
panel pullers metal and plastic
hook and awl set
variety of pliers(channellock and Kobalt)
wire stippers, crimpers, wire cutters

Things I need in the order I feel most important:
1. Low profile jack(not sure on brand, suggestions?)
2. Jack stands(have one pair, need beefier taller pair)
3. 3/8in sockets. This is were I'm not sure what I want to do. I was going to order this Craftsman kit. However I really only need 3/8 drive Deep well sockets and maybe a few shallow ones. This is what I have:
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Need suggestions on sockets alone as I have plans for ratchets
4. Gearwrench serpentine belt tool
5. 3/8 and 1/2 Armstrong Flex and regular ratchets from epsteins.
6. 3/8 and 1/2 breaker bar(HF)
7. ratcheting wrenches(unknown brand, haven't have a specific suggestion)
8. 60 gallon 5hp compressor(probably my graduation gift)
8. Klutch G10K impact wrench
9. HF disc brake tool
10. PryBars(higher on list)
11. Ratchet driven HEX drivers
12. 1/2 drive axle nut drivers(HF)
13. 44" Us general tool box(mine will be stuffed to brim with all this ****)
14. Ball pien and dead blow hammers

I need some suggestion on the things I notated as I'm still not sure what to do for them. Thanks Guys you've been a lot of help.
 
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HF is really your best bet for a jack and stands without going into the realm of $600-$800 or more. I've had a cheap orange HF 2ton jack for 3 years that gets used for suspension work/brakkes and other oddball items and its held up fine. I'd really like to have a werner at home but i just cant justify the $400 price tag for the amount it gets used.

My stands on the other hand are US made. I've seen no real proof the Chinese stands are unsafe, its just my body and my life and i dont want to risk that by crawling under a vehicle held up by objects built by the lowest bidder. Purchased my stands direct from USJACK.

Ramps are handy to have in addition to stands as well. Makes things like fluid changes much easier or if you just want to get the car up higher to work on it from the top down. Worth consideration. I know Rhino ramps were on clearance, not sure if they still are. I think it was advance auto who was blowing them out for newer models. Even at their regular price from Amazon they're worth getting.
 
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I would look at the following:
Pry Bars - Craftsman red handle 3 pc kit,often on sale for $20
Socket Hex Keys - I recently picked up the HF SAE and Metric 6 or 7 piece sets, haven't used them a ton but they look like good quality for the price and I hear good thinks about HF hex sets
3/8" socket set - http://cripedistributingstore.com/napa-62-pc-3-8-socket-set-deep-shallow-nht90928-ro.html
Cripe Dist. also sells the NAPA socket sets stand alone, but buy as a kit is better value
Deadblow - I hear good things about HF orange ones, have't tried them yet but planning on picking up the 2 lb deadblow
Ball Pein - Menards has Vaughn on sale
Breaker Bars - Menards has USA made Allen/Masterforce brand for same price as Lowes imported Kobalts ($20ish for 1/2" and $12ish for 3/8") I plan on picking these up next time they have a 20% off tool sale (can't get myself to buy the HF breaker bars)
 
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HF is really your best bet for a jack and stands without going into the realm of $600-$800 or more. I've had a cheap orange HF 2ton jack for 3 years that gets used for suspension work/brakkes and other oddball items and its held up fine. I'd really like to have a werner at home but i just cant justify the $400 price tag for the amount it gets used.

My stands on the other hand are US made. I've seen no real proof the Chinese stands are unsafe, its just my body and my life and i dont want to risk that by crawling under a vehicle held up by objects built by the lowest bidder. Purchased my stands direct from USJACK.

Ramps are handy to have in addition to stands as well. Makes things like fluid changes much easier or if you just want to get the car up higher to work on it from the top down. Worth consideration. I know Rhino ramps were on clearance, not sure if they still are. I think it was advance auto who was blowing them out for newer models. Even at their regular price from Amazon they're worth getting.

I was told the Costco jack would be a good investment for a little better QC. It's in this thread somewhere, I'll go check them both out and come home with something. Costco and HF are in the same city which is about an hour from me.

I'll check out some better jack stand because I complete agree with that statement.

Only issue I have with ramps is my car is lowered and I can't find ramps that I can actually drive it up on...

I would look at the following:
Pry Bars - Craftsman red handle 3 pc kit,often on sale for $20
Socket Hex Keys - I recently picked up the HF SAE and Metric 6 or 7 piece sets, haven't used them a ton but they look like good quality for the price and I hear good thinks about HF hex sets
3/8" socket set - http://cripedistributingstore.com/napa-62-pc-3-8-socket-set-deep-shallow-nht90928-ro.html
Cripe Dist. also sells the NAPA socket sets stand alone, but buy as a kit is better value
Deadblow - I hear good things about HF orange ones, have't tried them yet but planning on picking up the 2 lb deadblow
Ball Pein - Menards has Vaughn on sale
Breaker Bars - Menards has USA made Allen/Masterforce brand for same price as Lowes imported Kobalts ($20ish for 1/2" and $12ish for 3/8") I plan on picking these up next time they have a 20% off tool sale (can't get myself to buy the HF breaker bars)

I saw the Cman prybars on sale and missed them... Who are the napa tools made by? Not that it really matters, just curious. I'll check out the HF deadblow and I planned on either an estwing or vaughn ball pein. I think I have a coupon for $7.99 breaker bars at HF and that was why I was planning on buying them there. After all, it's a bar with a 3/8 or 1/2 adapter on it.. How badly can it be messed up..
 

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I saw the Cman prybars on sale and missed them... Who are the napa tools made by? Not that it really matters, just curious. I'll check out the HF deadblow and I planned on either an estwing or vaughn ball pein. I think I have a coupon for $7.99 breaker bars at HF and that was why I was planning on buying them there. After all, it's a bar with a 3/8 or 1/2 adapter on it.. How badly can it be messed up..

The NAPA set is Taiwan, looks spot on like Gearwrench, but I was told I would not be disappointed with the quality and its a lot of bang for the buck.

Here is a thread I started about the NAPA sets.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145877

As far as breaker bars, others on this forum have said if it does break under pressure it can really hurt. SOme people have had great luck with them too, YMMV, I just can't get myself to buy them. If they last you forever, whats another $20.
 

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I was told the Costco jack would be a good investment for a little better QC. It's in this thread somewhere, I'll go check them both out and come home with something. Costco and HF are in the same city which is about an hour from me.

I dont think the arcan jacks are any better, just the HF are much more widely used so bad experiences are far more available. The common complaint with all those chinese jacks is seal leakage which is really a **** shoot and actually due to lack of use. Looking at HF's website they also seem to of switched jack manufacturers as they're all grey now. They've been improving stuff lately so...


Only issue I have with ramps is my car is lowered and I can't find ramps that I can actually drive it up on...

They make ramps specifically for lowered cars but they cost more, or you can just take a pair of rhino ramps and place a few pieces of wood in front of them.

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I'm intrigued by the napa tool set. I added it to my amazon wish list and will be considering it. For $35 with a ratchet I suppose they will do the job just fine. I didn't see that the HF breaker bars were breaking, I'll look into that some more. It's gonna be a couple weeks before I can do anything.. I'm taking a new job and I have two weeks where I will be unemployed with zero income.... Gonna get owned but it will be worth it, new job is double the salary of the old one..

Still doesn't work, I have a lip kit on the car. I'll just be sticking to a jack and jack stands. Just makes changing my oil a little more difficult is all.
 
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Still doesn't work, I have a lip kit on the car. I'll just be sticking to a jack and jack stands. Just makes changing my oil a little more difficult is all.

It'll work, just depends if you want to stack the required amount of wood.

oh, since i dont think it was mentioned, get yourself some "push pin" pliers and a clip removal tool. Those little plastic clips are all over the place on anything remotely modern, especially japanese. They're very cheap tools and will save you quite a bit of time, not to mention broken clips.
 
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It'll work, just depends if you want to stack the required amount of wood.

oh, since i dont think it was mentioned, get yourself some "push pin" pliers and a clip removal tool. Those little plastic clips are all over the place on anything remotely modern, especially japanese. They're very cheap tools and will save you quite a bit of time, not to mention broken clips.

I have those already, I had to have them for my job. I broke way too many clips at first without them.
 

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I was told the Costco jack would be a good investment for a little better QC. It's in this thread somewhere, I'll go check them both out and come home with something. Costco and HF are in the same city which is about an hour from me.

I was at my local costco yesterday and they didn't have the jack anymore. You might find them from time so its best to call first.

Arcan Floor Jack item #300930
 

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oh, since i dont think it was mentioned, get yourself some "push pin" pliers and a clip removal tool. Those little plastic clips are all over the place on anything remotely modern, especially japanese. They're very cheap tools and will save you quite a bit of time, not to mention broken clips.

I need to get one of those push pin pliers myself. Also a bag of replacement clips. I broke so many on my friend's CRV.

Anyone have any recommendations on the pliers?
 

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KD 3729 and 3888
Lisle 35260 also comes in handy for clips on the lower shrouds/bumper where dirt has collected.
 
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Those KD tools push pin pliers look exactly like the one I have from HF. Down to the red trim on the handle... I paid less than 10 bucks each..

I'm going to go pick up a 2ton HF alu. jack in a week or so.
 
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I picked up a 25" craftsman prybay today for $12 decent deal I thought. I just need a smaller one now and i think that will be enough prybars. I was also told to look into an offset flex head ratchet by a friends dad who is a mechanic. I was looking at this gearwrench one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0015014B8/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
Do anyone of you own one and can put in your input?
 

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That's a cool piece, but probably not necessary for a "wrenching beginner." I still don't have one, and i haven't run into anything that stumped me. If you've got the spare cash and there's nothing else you need more than it, then sure, buy one. You can never have enough cool ratchets. :)
 
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That's a cool piece, but probably not necessary for a "wrenching beginner." I still don't have one, and i haven't run into anything that stumped me. If you've got the spare cash and there's nothing else you need more than it, then sure, buy one. You can never have enough cool ratchets. :)

I was gonna pick it up as my 3/8 drive flex head. I need a flex head anyway I figured I would grab that one first off tooltopia for 35 bucks.

I thought it might be nice to do my spark plugs in the grand am with, its got the v6 in it and they are boogers to get too.
 
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I have had no issue with the pair I own, I do wish they offered a longer pair of them.
 
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