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Wrong Garage Framing Size

steviehn

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My contractor did some garage remodeling and when everything is done the opening is now 16' 4.5" wide. My existing door is exactly 16 feet.

Is there a workaround beside re-framing the opening or getting a custom size door?
 
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Re: Wrong Gagare Framing Size

Wow..would to see what's his tape mesure look like!
 

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Re: Wrong Gagare Framing Size

Can you provide his contact information please?

Maybe he can make my pants fit better?:lol_hitti
 

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Since you are a new member, can you show a picture of where you are measuring from ?

You say he is done, but does he still have some finish work to do ?
 

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Remove the trim, add one 2x something on both sides (2x6 most likely), then replace the trim with 3/4" trim. That's 4.5". Unless it's the raw opening, then they are not finished LOL.
 

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He may have left off the last pair of jacks (+ trim) if your slab is not finished or until the exterior grade is established. The last 2 jacks are usually down to the grade not wall height to accommodate the door trim as well as being PT lumber.
 

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Sounds like he left room to add finish work + garage door outside weather stripping
 

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The typical garage trim board with flexible seal is going to cover about 1.5 to 2" (3/4" for trim and up to about 1' for vinyl seal flap)

With a width difference of 4.5"....it's going to take more than trim to cover the gap

The bigger issue is the door mounting. Even with the tracks all the way to the edge, I can see issues with the garage door staying centered on the rollers.

It sounds like you will need to add 2x material to get the width correct. That will give you enough meat to attach the door tracks to.
 

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My contractor did some garage remodeling and when everything is done the opening is now 16' 4.5" wide. My existing door is exactly 16 feet.

Is there a workaround beside re-framing the opening or getting a custom size door?

If "everything is done" withhold payment & get a new contractor.
 

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We are assuming it is a rough opening. Is it, or is it finished? What did the contractor say about the opening?
 
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Make sure the pad out material is pressure treated, as it will need to run down almost to the ground/apron/slab.
 

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Check opening is plumb, square..Then, as mentioned above.. simply shim in w 2x or whatever is needed to make the correct RO.... Dimensions you need to get FROM THE garage door installing company.

Assuming you have proper adequate slope drainage on your slab/ apron...Treated not needed, just hold 1/2" shy of slab, fill gap at floor w RTV Silicone.

No bigee at all.

Sure as hell would rather be too big than too small.

Very Very small minor very easy fixable "problem"

Been there, done that.
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Marc
 
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I left mine about the same.
By the time a 2x6 was added to each side a 1/2" shy of the concrete, the trim and finish material filled it in. Door guy said it was nice having a square true opening to mount a door!
 
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steviehn

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Not only the width non-standard, the height is also non-standard. Height 7'7" and 1 inch different between the left and the right side. Such a mickey mouse job.

Padding with 2 by 6 on both ends would work but the city inspector already told me that I will have to stucco the wood to make them match with the rest of the exterior. A side from that it will look so ugly with the moldings and stone veneers not close to the edge.

I had a garage door guy come over yesterday and I decided to go for the custom size.

Claiming the contractor's bond so this won't be coming out of my pocket.

Thanks for all of your comments. I wish I had discovered this site sooner.
 

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We gave him a punch list that range from incomplete to really bad workmanship. After reviewing the list he decided to change the term of contracts and demanded us to pay more. We disagreed so he bailed. Filed a complain with the State Licensing Board and going after his bond.
 
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steviehn

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OK, but how is the left and right 1" diff gonna get fixed ?

Really too bad was not caught at RI stage.

Marc
Didn't even know that was part of the rough inspection. I am so angry. Not even my closet is standard size. The inspector did not check that either.
 

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Unless I misunderstand you, regular Building Inspector does not check size, or plumb, or square, etc... just the WAY it is done.

Same w closet door.

What is the problem w closet door ?

Marc
 

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Sorry you're having to deal with this. It's so easy to just do right in the first place, makes you crazy sometimes.
 
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Unless I misunderstand you, regular Building Inspector does not check size, or plumb, or square, etc... just the WAY it is done.

Same w closet door.

What is the problem w closet door ?

Marc

Closet opening is two inches short. Sliding closet doors so I trimmed two inches off the rail and door guide.

You mentioned RI Stage. I thought you meant rough inspection and its the inspector job to spot that.
 

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Framing inspection here - from the things I've done - is looking at the basic building structure and bracing, maybe spanning members across an open space. Is it built to code such that it won't wall down and kill someone during the first 45 MPH spring breeze. No measuring of rough openings of any type.
 

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Overhead door width RO's can vary depending on how they are trimmed out, and of course, also door height.

But off the shelf basic closet doors are always 6' 8" AFAIK.

If your contractor was that goofy w his RO's, I really wonder about other stuff.

RO's are pretty darn Carp 101 basics.. and, if he didn't know the correct size, DUHHHH.. he should have checked/ found out.

NO excuse.

And the 1" diff in ohead door RO.. If, as Radix asked.. the header is not level, again, contractor major boo boo.

But, if concrete was poured after, and that is what is not level, that's a concrete guy fault.

And don't let him tell you something BS like "We did it for drainage"

Door seating area always should be level/ square w side jambs left to right.

Pretty basic stuff, even for a Guy w a Richard Simmons avatar.

You are not alone... I have had similiar idiocy done in last year.






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Even though AFAIK your mistakes are not specifically forbidden in any Code, They do, arguably, not comply w the general "Workmanlike Manner" idea.

You are deserving of some substantial reduction in his fee.

Marc
 

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The OP said this is a remodel.

What size garage door was in there before? What was the scope of work that the contractor was supposed to accomplish?

What is the RO for the bipass closet door? I frame them the same width as the two doors (5' wide for a double 2'6" bipass). I have no idea how long that tracks are that the finish carpenter uses but I imagine it comes in one length and needs to be cut down. They're not going to keep different tracks for all the different door widths.
 
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