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ocloc24

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I haven't been able to find much of anything regarding these, maybe I'm not wording it right, but I've been on the hunt for these for a while. I'm mostly referring to flex-type as opposed to fixed. I feel they're much more versatile.

There are two similar but very distinct types. There's fixed boxed end and a ratcheting and of the same size, and then there's the type where both ends of the wrench are different sizes and both ratchet. First of all, what do you prefer? I know having the fixed box end is nice for very tight fasteners so you're less likely to "abuse" it and break things free with the ratcheting side. But personally I think I prefer the double ratcheting type. Take up less space and its nice to have two sizes with one tool. And lets face, it many of us would just use the ratcheting end regardless. I haven't found many reviews for any brands out there so I'm curious what others think. Snap On makes a 0° offset set but they're the old ratcheting design and they are HUGE. I am a snappy junkie but they don't offer anything along these lines.

On to the different options, I haven't decided which kind I'm getting for sure yet. I currently own a metric set of Matco Double Ratcheting XL Flex. Both ends ratchet. I love them. BUT, I'm an industrial mechanic who uses SAE 99% of the time, so those are mostly used on my auto repairs. Matco doesn't offer that style in SAE or I would own them already. They do make a fixed end/ratcheting flex end(gearwrench rebrand) but it is LUDICROUS what they want, $500 for GW, no thank you. So I've looked to other options and this is what I've found.

Probably one of my top choices is the 120xp double box single ratcheting flex end set by gearwrench. I can get a set for around $140. I hate 120xp ratchets but I think the 120xp ratchet wrenches are amazing. But I haven't gotten to beat on them yet, only briefly handled them, so any input on this set or similar is welcome.

The rest are mostly no name brands, Mountain makes a set that seems pretty solid, about $110, but I'd be concerned with warranty, because these will not be coddled.

EZ Red makes a set that looks good as well, similar in price to mountain. I'm more familiar with EZ Red but still would worry about warranty.

At the bottom of the barrel is Neiko, which I'm pretty skeptical of. But they're priced well.

I apologize for the long post, just trying to get some help, and possibly offer some as well as I haven't found any good threads on the topic. I've included pictures of a few that I've mentioned.38ed8ed4beecbef32d130dd0a57900d5.pngdb3c8ae6903a2907924be0e35546aff0.png

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Search threads by fedwrench. He's done several good informative threads on these and just about anything you'd want to know has been said by several including my comments. I own sever varieties of these and have the mountain set you're considering. I don't have anything negative to say other than from time to time the damn directional switch gets bumped to easily.
 
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There's dozens of redundant pages on regular combination style ratchet wrenches but every single fathomable combination of words I tried didn't pull up anything on these but those same 2 threads that were years old. I tried searching fedwrenches posts and still didnt see anything about these. Looking for fresh insight.

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Ya searching posts is a PITA. If you search threads it'll take you here:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/search.php?searchid=35639604

But while I find a couple for you, start with this one:

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259660

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=208326


Welll **** I thought he had more threads about these style RWs, guess not. Well just about any dang ratchet wrench thread that pops up he seems to comment in with good info.
I appreciate it. I'm just seeing if anyone else has these or anything similar as even Amazon and other sites have next to no reviews and even when there are reviews you dont know if it's someone who's reviewing how shiny they look. I own full sae and metric sets of just about every variation of socket, wrench, ratchet wrench etc there is. But with these only a handful of companies make them and only a third of them make them in standard. I love them, if I could get my hands on a set they'd be the first thing I reach for.

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check out the klutch brand from northern tool.
Unfortunately I don't have a Northern tool within 120 miles. And online they only sell the wrenches individually which is odd. I wish we had one though. Thank you

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I have the Neiko and work good enough for me but they aren't the highest quality. I bought my set during a sale on ebay and paid $50 for them. I have used them quite a bit and they haven't failed yet. I break bolts loose with them and treat them badly. As far as warranty goes. When I finally bust a head, I'll just buy flex head gearwrench in that size and swap it out. I'll have to file the gearwrench down a tad because they are wider but it's simple fix.
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I was close between getting Tekton or GW a few months ago. I wanted the extra length for leverage. I ended up buying Craftsman XL (made by GW I think) for $50 when they had sale. The CF was not flex, but it was too good of a deal. I have been using them, and the length is awesome when you need extra power.

Personally I would buy Tekton due to warranty - I never use it, but have heard their customer service is great. I may get Tekton set later down the road.

https://www.tekton.com/wrenches/ratcheting-wrenches/long-flex-ratcheting-box-end-wrench-set-wrn77062
 
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I forgot about those Tekton, another great option and although the 6pt box can be a nuisance at times I like them.

I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this 120xp set from eBay, it's a pretty good price. I'll sleep on it first though. Any other suggestions are welcomed

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I have a few of the snap on xdhrm. Long zero offset wrenches ratcheting box / fixed box end
Nice wrenches very small on both ends part of their high performance series. They have a Very smooth ratcheting mech and are flank drive as well. Pricey but excellent wrenches.

I have ratcheting flex in stubby by Blue Point they are fat but it rarely an issue. although it would be nice to have a few common longer ratcheting flex wrenches...
 
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In those style wrenches I have the Gearwrench XP120, Matco, SK, and the standard length Tekton.
If you want a extra long version, I think the Gearwrench XP120 are the best choice. They offer nice thick beams unlike the thin Matco versions. They also have a fixed boxed end which is outstanding for braking a fastener loose or for final tightening. This set also cost less than comparable versions.
Now, at times these wrenches may be too long to use. That's when the standard length Tekton ratcheting flex head boxed end set comes in. the fact that the ratcheting boxed end is six point has no affect on fastener engagement positioning. It's like using a six point socket with a fine toothed ratchet. The Tekton set is durable, comfortable, and value priced.
I still contend that if someone was to make the XL Xp120 wrench in a standard length version, it would be a winner-winner-chicken dinner. :thumbup:
Sadly, no manufacturer has come to its senses and made one. :wtf:
The other thing that I will throw out here is that some of the extra long flex head ratcheting versions like the old SK G Pro version or the older EZ Red made by Kabo in Taiwan feature like a socket end on the ratcheting boxed end. This feature can be handy when dealing with slightly recessed fasteners. As others have pointed out, the reversing switch on reversible models will hit stuff on its own changing direction when you least want it to. Good luck in your quest. :beer:
 
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I just bought the GW 120XP and they should be here by Friday. My main reservation against that style is the ridiculous amount of tools I own, and having to make room for 10 more huge wrenches, but I'll make it work, we always do haha. If I fall in love with them I may just have to get a set in metric as well. Im curious how durable the 120XP mechanism is, if it holds up over time I may upgrade my other styles as well. They sure feel incredible though.

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I work in a volunteer shop that is open 2 shifts 6 days a week. We have 3 sets of the GW 120s that have lasted extremely well. Even when used with cheaters. Great sets at a very reasonable cost.
 

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The GW dbe's are my go to wrenches. I will use them anywhere they fit. Mine aren't the 72T and aren't the flex head.

I also have a 120xp open end/flex spline ratcheting, they are nice although I don't prefer spline end so they don't get used very often.
 

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Cam, the only complaint I have with the Mountain set, which I own, is the rather thin beams. A wrench this long should have some meat to it so that it doesn't tear up your hand when you really riffing on it. These don't. Mechanically, they are fine, which I would expect they would be, since KABO seems to be their source and they are a first rate outfit in Taiwan, but the hand destroying beams bother me. The Gearwrench and the Tekton are more comfortable.
 

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I have the Tekton ones, albeit the shorter ones. I love them, short and simple.
 

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Im curious how durable the 120XP mechanism is, if it holds up over time I may upgrade my other styles as well. They sure feel incredible though.

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If they are like the ratchets you should be fine, here is a cool video of someone going until breaking point with them.
 

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Cam, the only complaint I have with the Mountain set, which I own, is the rather thin beams. A wrench this long should have some meat to it so that it doesn't tear up your hand when you really riffing on it. These don't. Mechanically, they are fine, which I would expect they would be, since KABO seems to be their source and they are a first rate outfit in Taiwan, but the hand destroying beams bother me. The Gearwrench and the Tekton are more comfortable.


Well D I can't argue that and my only retort would be you need to grow some more meat on your mits. :spit:

I haven't tried out any of tekons rat wrenches but I have almost the entire collection of GW offerings which I only have some occasional complaints about. And next week thanks to this man ^^^^ guys I'll have a complete set of toptul to play with and compare which I'm pretty excited about.
 

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I realize this is an old thread but I just used my Craftsmans the other day on the drain plugs on my Kubota. The extra reach afforded by them meant I could just kneel next to the tractor rather than get under it.

The Craftsmans have the sort of "shallow socket" design on the box end which is actually pretty nice!
 

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I have the Mountain double ratcheting flex heads, and while they're nice wrenches, I don't like the spline drive. It can be difficult to get the wrench off the fastener sometimes. If I had to do it over again, I would've got the six point Tektons.
 
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