The 5 inch vise is $120 Shipped it is Made in Taiwan, but it is forged steel not cast.
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Yost Forged Vise Price Drop
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Negen
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Those fsv vises are no longer manufactured. They are being replaced with the adi series. It is a better deal to get the 6" for 150$ which you may or may not be getting the adi series. The adi series is made in China though but said to be something like 45% stronger than the fsv series.
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well thats ***** to hear. i been waiting to get the 4in one when it goes on sale for like $99 bucks or whatever it did before.
Amazing! These vises were already champs at 90,000 psi forged steel, and now they’ve got “Austempered Ductile Iron” with a quoted strength of 130,000 psi.
Amazon seems to be out of FSV-6/ADI-6, but Walmart has the FSV-6 for $156 shipped:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yost-Vis...nch-Vise-with-360-Degree-Swivel-Base/49408678
afaik, ADI is comparable to steel but lower in cost as it can be cast from nearly 100% recycled materials. The fancy heat treating process gives them higher ductility, a good virtue for vises. The new Yost vises would no longer be "forged" as they are technically castings.
JiminAZ
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Yep, I posted about this on the Amazon deals thread. The description of the vise says ductile iron, but the picture of the product is clearly forged, as it is a welded assembly. Reviews also reflect this confusion. I fully expect my new 6" vise, whichever version, to be a heck of a deal for $153.
The new Yost part number "ADI-6" makes me believe it is Austempered Ductile Iron, and I think the picture is not valid for the new model.
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If you read the questions at Amazon either Amazon or a yost Rep listed Amazon stock on each vise on 11/29 and gave details of the adi series being a replacement of the fsv.
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Yes, when I bought a few days ago, it was still FSV-6 listed as the part number and material as steel (all within the Product Specification table). Also said Forged in the main text product description. The header said ADI-6 and Ductile iron. So they just need to update the data/descriptions to get them consistent.
ETA: Just checked and it still says that. Note also the 5" says FSV-5 in both places. Both have photos of forged vises.
ETA: Just checked and it still says that. Note also the 5" says FSV-5 in both places. Both have photos of forged vises.
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does anyone know how long whole vise is once closed 4in vs 5in?
Yes, I read that. And an ADI type vise could very well be a replacement for a forged vise as it is as strong and ductile as a forged vise. But it's cast, not forged, and cheaper to manufacture. Haven't seen a pic yet, not even on the Yost website.
Negen
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It's not as strong it is 45% stronger than the forged vise.
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New to the forum. I think I ordered the last ADI-6 from Amazon a couple days ago for around $150 and received it today. I can confirm that it's in fact made in China and no longer has welds like the steel version for obvious reasons. It had some of the red paint chipping on the base right out of the box which goes to the quality of materials but it's a vise so who cares about the paint job. Unfortunately this is for home use so I can't speak for the durability since it will never really be abused like it would if it were for work.
The overall quality of the casting looks good and the jaw alignment looks good with virtually no side-to-side slop. Can't go wrong for $150 either way you slice it. It looks much better than the HF or the cheap cast iron ones you can get at the big box stores.
The overall quality of the casting looks good and the jaw alignment looks good with virtually no side-to-side slop. Can't go wrong for $150 either way you slice it. It looks much better than the HF or the cheap cast iron ones you can get at the big box stores.
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The MATERIAL might be 45% stronger under ideal conditions. The overall strength will be determined by the casting design and quality. Alot of that 45% improvement is marketing. I don't expect that vise to last any longer than the forged/welded version.
Ign
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This. I'm extremely skeptical. Is anyone out there breaking 90k psi steel? Really???
JiminAZ
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Does the new one have adjustable gibs like the forged had? Looks like no from the pics. Also wasn’t the FSV from Taiwan?
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Negen
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Mine just arrived from Walmart.com. It’s the ADI-6, and it *does* have adjustable gibs!
Not sure, how can I tell?
I took a few pictures of the jaws, attached. Both the pipe jaws and the main jaws are held on by screws.
I also measure the handle. It’s 17mm in diameter and 25cm in length, so over 5/8” by about 10”.
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yup, looks like Amazon sold out of the 5 and 6 inch version so it links to "other sellers" who have the normal price. You can still get the 4 or 7 inch from Amazon or 6 inch from Walmart.. Walmart shows FSV as well...wonder if the ADI would ship instead.
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Negen
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The yost Rep says more are coming. And prices may fluctuate. But wouldn't quote a price.
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The fsv is only going to come from old stock if the stock was replaced even if they ordered the old one from the vendor will ship the new adi-6 once Walmart is aware the product number was replaced they will update their site I suspect.
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Has the FSV-7 really become the ADI-8? According to the Amazon page it has and is presently $257.
~$250 for a nice 8" vise seems like a great deal
~$250 for a nice 8" vise seems like a great deal
After seeing this, I spent some time reading and researching about the FSV-6 and talked myself into it being something I wanted at $156. If Walmart is shipping ADI-6s instead if FSV-6s, I'm now hesitant and haven't pulled the trigger. It does look to me like the Capri 10516 is the same vise as the Yost FSV-6.
Negen
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Why would you want a weaker vise? Serious question.
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I probably don't, but I haven't really found any information about the ADI-6 out there...
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Again, who is snapping FSV's?
The better question is why do you NEED something allegedly stronger?
It seems like having 1000 or 1200 horsepower in your daily driver.....is that 1000 not enough while getting groceries??
The better question is why do you NEED something allegedly stronger?
It seems like having 1000 or 1200 horsepower in your daily driver.....is that 1000 not enough while getting groceries??
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I suspect the main reason yost moved to China is cost. But it helps them that the new method of casting improves strength at lest on paper. I suspect that either of these vises are suitable at the discounted price. But puts less value at full retail and just gives other vise manufacturers even more reason to charge premium prices.
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Today I put the fsv-5 side by side with the adi-6. In my hands the fsv has the superior fit and finish over the adi series. Less slop out of the box on the fsv as well as better fitting jaws. The paint is blotchy on my adi in spots with the fsv not being top notch finish, but it is noticeably better. I would take the fsv over the adi based on fit finish and feel. No testing has been done for strength and real world use, just my opinion out of the box without running them through the paces.
I got an FSV-5 from Amazon for ~$120. I haven't used it yet but gave it a good inspection and am pleased. It's not perfect but for the $ is great. The only complaint is the handle is extremely lame - it's a joke; it's very thin and only rubber rings hold it on.
The ADI may be great, but I'm sceptical its stronger than forged steel in bending...but maybe it is. I'd love to see an independent test on that . The FSV has a cheap looking cast nut so that may be the weak point
The ADI may be great, but I'm sceptical its stronger than forged steel in bending...but maybe it is. I'd love to see an independent test on that . The FSV has a cheap looking cast nut so that may be the weak point
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Seephor
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The good news it hat the FSV will never "break" in the sense that forged steel will bend. The ADI is ductile iron which gives it some plasticity over regular cast iron so it's most likely to break if enough force is put on the handle. However, there's no way you're going to put that much force on the handle without using some sort of cheater bar and even them I suspect the handle to bend before the jaws break. All this being said, ADI is only as good as the quality of the material and the process used. Knowing the material is Chinesium, it doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling. For the $150 price tag, I'm willing to take that gamble.
The ADI and FSV are both made from Chinese steel.
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Walmart down to $123.13 for the 6"... Figures that would happen being as I bit at $150.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yost-Vis...nch-Vise-with-360-Degree-Swivel-Base/49408678
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Yost-Vis...nch-Vise-with-360-Degree-Swivel-Base/49408678