Your Snap On Tool Suggestions

[pcpro15]

That wouldn't be cost effective for any business. If they discontinue a tool it is because the demand is gone (i.e. specialty tools for long out of production vehicles)--period. If there was enough demand for that freon machine or drill battery to turn a profit they would sell it. Just because maybe 5 people in the country want something, it doesn't make business sense to produce and store those items. It's easy to forget at times but SO and every other company is in business to make money, not to make everyone happy. Could you imagine if GM had to stock every car part from the last 40 years because a few people wanted to restore certain models?

Idk, I can think of a few examples that snap on should have kept that I would have been interested in, and can guess I am not alone.

1. FDP 4way angle wrenches.
2. 8" Bolt Cutters (pop up on ebay every once in a while) I bought knipex instead
3. screwdrivers, non instinct hard handle in black. I like the handle size of the older ones better (my buddy has them) than my new instincts.... although mine are green so thats a plus

 

[Al Bundy]

I don't own any Snap On screwdrivers because I don't think they're any better than some of the other less expensive brands. But if they brought back the black hard handles I'd buy some of those.

 

[ken yokers]

Customer Service Huh!!!! I've spent over 80k with Snap-On and bought one used 1/2 cordless impact gun with the recalled lithium battery and asked my dealer to replace it and he said no because i bought it used, You call that customer service??? I hope you're reading this Snap-On!!!!!!!!

 

[kv501]

I don't own any Snap On screwdrivers because I don't think they're any better than some of the other less expensive brands. But if they brought back the black hard handles I'd buy some of those.

I'll second that. I have some old, 60's or 70's Blue Point screwdrivers of my dad's with the black handles and I use them all the time. I like 'em.

 

[kv501]

Customer Service Huh!!!! I've spent over 80k with Snap-On and bought one used 1/2 cordless impact gun with the recalled lithium battery and asked my dealer to replace it and he said no because i bought it used, You call that customer service??? I hope you're reading this Snap-On!!!!!!!!

Wow. That's a bunch of dough. I can't even comprehend what $80,000 worth of hand tools looks like.

 

[BHH]

Wow. That's a bunch of dough. I can't even comprehend what $80,000 worth of hand tools looks like.

$80,000 Tools from HF = Three garages full to the roof.

$80,000 Tools from SO = One KRL just full

 

[MattPersman]

I would like to see more realistic sales fliers not like 2 bucks off a 50 dollar item.

 

[fordbroncodave]

That wouldn't be cost effective for any business. If they discontinue a tool it is because the demand is gone (i.e. specialty tools for long out of production vehicles)--period. If there was enough demand for that freon machine or drill battery to turn a profit they would sell it. Just because maybe 5 people in the country want something, it doesn't make business sense to produce and store those items. It's easy to forget at times but SO and every other company is in business to make money, not to make everyone happy. Could you imagine if GM had to stock every car part from the last 40 years because a few people wanted to restore certain models?

nobody said they had to store the items, just make it when someone orders it through the snap on site or through a dealer. i agree they have to be profitable but at the same time, not making something can also cost them.

 

[1984Datsun]

Matco is in trouble? Thats news to me. Got anything to back that up other than the lawsuit thread that was posted a couple of days ago.

Looking at Snap-on's financials only shows a company that is in a strong cash position and a strong market share.



So you are calling for about a 65% reduction in their prices. Thats hilarious. No company can survive selling things for cost. Companies are in business to make a profit. They arent in business to sell their products at cost.

Minor trouble. However, lawsuits have been known to kill stuff, even large corporations.

Snap-On's strong financial position is only so because they grossly overcharge for their tools. Period.

There is no way in hell that it actually costs them more than 50 bucks to make one of their 150+ buck tools.

The rule is to sell slightly above cost to make a decent profit, not four or more times cost... I wonder what would happen to Snap-On and such when the economy does stall. Probably hold prices, realize it ain't working, lower them a ton, still not make any money, then basically die.


Good luck getting the frugal and smarter buyers like me to waste tons of money on brand new SO stuff. You'd have to give me 5/6th of the line up before I'd be willing to drop any of my money buying the rest of the stuff to finish the line up. Bet there are others that think like I do. I save money to spend elsewhere, like cars, snowmobiles, more tools, and **** like that.


Professional tools that professionals should have/buy? My ***. I know tons of techs/mechanics that use Craftsman, and many other brands without a ******** problem. Not to mention you could have enough money left over to have two or three boxes full of tools at work, and two or three at home... Two is one, one is none. I don't give a **** if it's Snap-On or Craftsman or Harbor Freight branded, it'll break, usually under abuse, but sometimes in normal use.

Everything can be broken, and chances are, Murphy will help you break that extension, socket, ratchet or whatever, don't matter if it's Snap-On or whatever. The laws of Murphy do not care what they're going to affect or when they actually take effect in the middle of a job, etc.

Hope that didn't hurt you Snap-On kool-aid drinkers too much. Though it does seem that your egos can be damaged pretty easily...

Otherwise in terms of quality with most of their tools, I am not disappointed...

Battened down the hatches and am ready to start waiting out the imminent **** storm...

 

[briggsguy17]

There is no way in hell that it actually costs them more than 50 bucks to make one of their 150+ buck tools.

The rule is to sell slightly above cost to make a decent profit, not four or more times cost...

I am going to guess that you have never been a small business owner in a retail setting? From manufacture to customer it isn't uncommon for an end product to cost 3 or 4 times more than the actual manufacturing cost. But, this isn't about pricing.

I too would like them to bring back the pre-instinct hard handles.

 

[Creditor]

Minor trouble. However, lawsuits have been known to kill stuff, even large corporations.

I will ask again if you have some kind of source to back up your claim.

Snap-On's strong financial position is only so because they grossly overcharge for their tools. Period.

Snap-on's overall corporate profit margin is around 10%. I believe that Apple has around a 25% margin and Google has 20%.

There is no way in hell that it actually costs them more than 50 bucks to make one of their 150+ buck tools.

The rule is to sell slightly above cost to make a decent profit, not four or more times cost... I wonder what would happen to Snap-On and such when the economy does stall. Probably hold prices, realize it ain't working, lower them a ton, still not make any money, then basically die.

The United States recently went thru one of the longest recessions in history and we are in a very anemic economic recovery. The fact that Snap-on has come out of this recession in the financial position that it is in shows that something about their business model still works.

Good luck getting the frugal and smarter buyers like me to waste tons of money on brand new SO stuff. You'd have to give me 5/6th of the line up before I'd be willing to drop any of my money buying the rest of the stuff to finish the line up. Bet there are others that think like I do. I save money to spend elsewhere, like cars, snowmobiles, more tools, and **** like that.


Professional tools that professionals should have/buy? My ***. I know tons of techs/mechanics that use Craftsman, and many other brands without a ******** problem. Not to mention you could have enough money left over to have two or three boxes full of tools at work, and two or three at home... Two is one, one is none. I don't give a **** if it's Snap-On or Craftsman or Harbor Freight branded, it'll break, usually under abuse, but sometimes in normal use.

Everything can be broken, and chances are, Murphy will help you break that extension, socket, ratchet or whatever, don't matter if it's Snap-On or whatever. The laws of Murphy do not care what they're going to affect or when they actually take effect in the middle of a job, etc.

Hope that didn't hurt you Snap-On kool-aid drinkers too much. Though it does seem that your egos can be damaged pretty easily...

Otherwise in terms of quality with most of their tools, I am not disappointed...

Battened down the hatches and am ready to start waiting out the imminent **** storm...

While it is obvious that you feel strongly about the fact that you are not satisfied with Snap-ons pricing. It is also obvious based on their sales figures that your sentiments are not shared by everyone.

 

[Jim C.]

hmmm

all my "working" tools are truck brands,
home tools are a mix of truck brands, CM, HF, and many others.

i'm not in hock for the rest of my life.....
i dont owe a dime to anyone for tools.

Outstanding!! Congratulations!! I wonder how many guys out there can honestly say that? I don't know about being in hock for life, but my point is that they seem to be priced beyond the means of a lot of people, including those who use them to make a living. Consequently, I think a lot of guys end up buying tools on time. Hand tools shouldn't cost that much. I really wonder how pro mechanics make ends meet when they end up paying a fortune for good quality tools. As for the weekend warriors they simply don't make financial sense. Finally, the I'm not going to argue the quality issue. I think snap on generally makes good quality tools, but I don't even remotely believe that that quality is so dramatically superior to most other stuff out there as to support their prices.

Jim C.

 

[1984Datsun]

I am going to guess that you have never been a small business owner in a retail setting? From manufacture to customer it isn't uncommon for an end product to cost 3 or 4 times more than the actual manufacturing cost. But, this isn't about pricing.

I too would like them to bring back the pre-instinct hard handles.

Four or more times the cost? Unnecessary for a profit margin. If the price were less, there would be more sales. Period. Not looking for at cost or worse, below cost prices... Bring the prices down to a more reasonable level... that's all. I don't see how Snap-On can't afford to do that. They do just above cost sales to dealers, dealers do about twice to three times cost. It would work, and Snap-On wouldn't die, and really wouldn't feel any pain, since they made shitloads of money before they dropped the prices.

Double, at most triple is plenty of overhead.

It's merely a suggestion. Of course they won't listen anyways, as I'm sure I am not the first to bring the ridiculous pricing up.


Anyhow, I'd like to see a better and less brittle tap and die set, and better customer service so a guy like me can get the set swapped outright...

I have never bought anything off of a Snap-On truck.

 

[1984Datsun]

I will ask again if you have some kind of source to back up your claim.



Snap-on's overall corporate profit margin is around 10%. I believe that Apple has around a 25% margin and Google has 20%.



The United States recently went thru one of the longest recessions in history and we are in a very anemic economic recovery. The fact that Snap-on has come out of this recession in the financial position that it is in shows that something about their business model still works.



While it is obvious that you feel strongly about the fact that you are not satisfied with Snap-ons pricing. It is also obvious based on their sales figures that your sentiments are not shared by everyone.

Starting from the bottom of your post...

Of course not everyone agrees with me... but I do know many that do.
An old saying goes something like this... Where there's one, there's more standing behind them...


Yes, the economy is ******, and still will be for quite some time yet. Possibly get worse for a while before it gets better. You know who to thank for that. No, not that guy that sent the troops overseas. The guy that thinks bringing them back is a good idea... guess what, there's no jobs over here...


********, 10% profit margin... according to whom? You? Some other potentially falsifying data source? If that's true, they must have an overpowered and greedy union working in their factories.

(not that all union members are greedy, it's really the union that is. My brother is paying dues to the teacher's union... does he want to, hell no... does he think it's right that he must pay into it, hell no. He does it only because the damned union probably has enough power to remove any loans/benefits from him to use, and he can't afford to lose them. He'd rather be using that money on books, etc. not paying into other people's greed.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_business_failures

Here is an entire ******** list of failed corporations for you to dig through... anything from corporate crime to poor business modelling. Notice the rise in the 2000's, probably a lot to do with both the economy and due to the better record keeping/lack of lost records.

 

[canuckian]

Their pricing is what it is. It has a service and warranty that their target market is willing to pay for built into it. All the tool truck companies are priced high for that reason.

As for suggestions for Snap On(my wish list)
-bring back hard handled pick sets and mini screwdriver sets
-make a set of long hard handled picks
-get rid of those crappy soft handled ratcheting screwdrivers and give the hard handled ones the interchangeable shank system
-bring back the hard handled pistol grip screwdriver and 1/4 square drive,
-bring back the 8 piece hard handled screwdriver sets and cabinet screwdriver sets.

So, in short, I guess my suggestion is to bring back hard handles and in all the old colors and include the clear as a color as well! Oh, and make another run of the clear ratcheting screwdriver in regular handle and why not....make a clear pistol grip too! Lol

 

[bgott]

Anyhow, I'd like to see a better and less brittle tap and die set, and better customer service so a guy like me can get the set swapped outright...

You want them to swap out the whole set because you chipped a tap? Have you emailed Snap-on to see if those taps are a warranty item? Most people have no problem getting things warrantied throught the company if they haven't a distributor.

What do you do for a living?

 

[bgott]

Lose the laser markings and go back to stamped. I've chased down NOS torque wrenches to get them with the markings stamped. I went to buy a new pounds-inch torque wrench and a fellow tech stopped me. He showed me his, I couldn't hardly read it wearing my cheaters, in the sunlight.

 

[Creditor]

********, 10% profit margin... according to whom? You? Some other potentially falsifying data source? If that's true, they must have an overpowered and greedy union working in their factories.

.

Actually, I was off a little bit on their profit margin. Its listed at 8.89%

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SNA+Key+Statistics

Valuation Measures
Market Cap (intraday)5: 3.16B
Enterprise Value (Nov 17, 2011)3: 4.05B
Trailing P/E (ttm, intraday): 12.27
Forward P/E (fye Jan 1, 2013)1: 11.23
PEG Ratio (5 yr expected)1: 1.29
Price/Sales (ttm): 1.10
Price/Book (mrq): 2.07
Enterprise Value/Revenue (ttm)3: 1.38
Enterprise Value/EBITDA (ttm)6: 8.02

Financial Highlights
Fiscal Year
Fiscal Year Ends: Jan 1
Most Recent Quarter (mrq): Oct 1, 2011

Profitability
Profit Margin (ttm): 8.89%
Operating Margin (ttm): 15.10%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_business_failures

Here is an entire ******** list of failed corporations for you to dig through... anything from corporate crime to poor business modelling. Notice the rise in the 2000's, probably a lot to do with both the economy and due to the better record keeping/lack of lost records.

You misunderstood my request for a source. You stated that Matco was in trouble and I asked you for a source to back up that claim. You posted a list of business failures that has nothing to do with your claim that Matco was in trouble. I will try to be clearer.

Do you have any kind of source to back up your claim that Matco Tools is in any kind of financial trouble other than the fact that they are involved in a lawsuit with one of their former franchisees?

 

[1984Datsun]

You want them to swap out the whole set because you chipped a tap? Have you emailed Snap-on to see if those taps are a warranty item? Most people have no problem getting things warrantied throught the company if they haven't a distributor.

What do you do for a living?

Mostly odd jobs. Did work for a while in the summer, but that dried up quick (I did a real good job reducing the number of projects that guy had sitting around in the yard) and worked at a factory for about two and a half months. That dried up as well.

Anything from brakes on someone's car to fixing a lawn mower and selling it.

Job market here in Michigan ain't the best in certain (really most) endeavors. If you are new, you'll have a job with minimum wage. If you got skill, you ain't getting hired. Sad but true. Companies just don't seem to be willing to pay for what your work is really worth. Not worth moving to another state. (plus there are enough people moving out of this state these days... there are houses all over the place for sale, some empty too.)

I was using the Snap-On set (picked it up used) while I was fabbing a part up. After one of the taps chipped on me, I decided to check some of the others... they happen to be chipped as well. Cutting oil and backing the tap up a bit before proceeding has never done this to me or others before, even with a supposedly "inferior" Chinese set I got from Menards or whatever.

No, I did not email Snap-On. Figuring on reviews that I've read everywhere, I doubt they'll cover it. Probably label it as "Misused by some country hillbilly with tools doing random odd jobs, tools are mostly other than Snap-On."

It'd be quite interesting if the opposite proves true... because I've got a few Snap-On tools that need to be replaced. BluePoint as well. Though I don't think I'll care for quality of the Chi-com BluePoint screw extractor set with the drill bits... I broke one of the old school drill bits in that set, which is from about the 80's. Wasn't used much, drill bit broke anyways. If the old good ones did that, then the new China ones certainly will.

 

[bgott]

If you are doing odd jobs for a living I can see why you have no interest in buying Snap-on! I don't blame you! When you get a job paying way better high priced tools start looking like a better idea. As far as warranty, you can ask one of our dealers here on the board whether or not those taps and other tools are warrantable.

You were fabbing a part, using mystery metal? I've grabbed a chunk of scrap to make something before and ended up with hard steel. I didn't figure it out until I had tore up a few tools. I'm not saying that you don't know how to use a tap, you just might have had events conspiring against you.

 

[85camaro]

I have a mix of several brands of tools, including Snap-on. Honestly, my SK, Proto, Armstrong and Craftsman tools all work just as good as the Snap-on, for far less. So I don't care what they do, they can keep their tools AND their astronomical prices.

 

[redwrench60]

Lose the "INSTINK" handles, they're clunky, uncomfortable and very slick when oily. Long live hard handles.

Do away with all laser eching, It looks cheap, it's hard to read and wears off easily. Not befitting of tools that last generations.

All snap on tools should be marked USA. This is not open for discussion. Do what it takes to fix this.

 

[ssblood]

Customer Service Huh!!!! I've spent over 80k with Snap-On and bought one used 1/2 cordless impact gun with the recalled lithium battery and asked my dealer to replace it and he said no because i bought it used, You call that customer service??? I hope you're reading this Snap-On!!!!!!!!

I bought a repo that had a battery go bad. I'm on my third replacement. I have a great dealer that earns the money I give him.

 

[CaseyJoes.]

If the price were less, there would be more sales.

I have never bought anything off of a Snap-On truck.

QUICK! Call up Snap-on and tell them all their marketing research is flawed and you have a solution that will make them millions more!

This is such a great idea for a thread, why do Snap-on hater's have to come in and spoil it? When I see a thread with HF in the title I just avoid it like the plauge (just like their tools). If you dont make the money to be able to afford Snap-On thats your deal, dont come in here and spout the same static we have all heard a thousand times before. Some people cant tell the difference in quality, but its a free country so you can buy whatever tools you like.


Anyways, the only notable thing that bugs me about some of the new tools is the laser markings instead of stamping. Please bring back stamping date code, model #'s etc! That and tools I see are from China, taiwan, etc. I will not be buying and will look elsewhere and purchase a USA made product.

 

[D9H 90V]

Do away with all laser eching, It looks cheap, it's hard to read and wears off easily. Not befitting of tools that last generations.

All snap on tools should be marked USA. This is not open for discussion. Do what it takes to fix this.

So true the laser etching looks ok when new but about the 50th use its gone, it needs to be done away with, stamp away Snap on

I figure if Snap on cant make the tool in the US then they dont need to make it, I dont know where the dual 80's are made but I do like mine, but if it wasnt stamped USA on it I wouldnt have bought it and just kept using my 936's

 

[buffalobill]

Mostly odd jobs. Did work for a while in the summer, but that dried up quick (I did a real good job reducing the number of projects that guy had sitting around in the yard) and worked at a factory for about two and a half months. That dried up as well.
wait a minute, you are basically unemployed? of course snap on will be to expensive for you, Harbor Freight is probably to expensive. Why no jobs where you are at, are you in the sticks?
Anything from brakes on someone's car to fixing a lawn mower and selling it.

Job market here in Michigan ain't the best in certain (really most) endeavors. If you are new, you'll have a job with minimum wage. If you got skill, you ain't getting hired. Sad but true. Companies just don't seem to be willing to pay for what your work is really worth. Not worth moving to another state. (plus there are enough people moving out of this state these days... there are houses all over the place for sale, some empty too.)

uh, i hate to tell you this, but i was born in Flint and raised in Lapeer. Its worth EVERY penny to run away from Michigan as fast as possible. The industry that used to be an anchor for good jobs was thrown in the trash by the gov with NAFTA, and it aint coming back. On top of that, what most people don't think of, is that Mi is a total penninsula, and does not even support through traffic for a lot of other industries. its totally isolated, and that kills any chances for a lot of jobs that people might not realize is out there. k

I was using the Snap-On set (picked it up used) while I was fabbing a part up. After one of the taps chipped on me, I decided to check some of the others... they happen to be chipped as well. Cutting oil and backing the tap up a bit before proceeding has never done this to me or others before, even with a supposedly "inferior" Chinese set I got from Menards or whatever.

if you picked it up used, how do you know how it was used (and abused)before? especially on a high wear item like a tap? do you buy used drill bits as well? it just seems like asking for failure.

No, I did not email Snap-On. Figuring on reviews that I've read everywhere, I doubt they'll cover it. Probably label it as "Misused by some country hillbilly with tools doing random odd jobs, tools are mostly other than Snap-On."

you wouldn't know until you try, so how can you bash them "in advance"?

It'd be quite interesting if the opposite proves true... because I've got a few Snap-On tools that need to be replaced. BluePoint as well. Though I don't think I'll care for quality of the Chi-com BluePoint screw extractor set with the drill bits... I broke one of the old school drill bits in that set, which is from about the 80's. Wasn't used much, drill bit broke anyways. If the old good ones did that, then the new China ones certainly will.

well, you really won't know until you try, will you? this "bitching in advance" is interesting. you have given up before you even tried, yet want sypathy for it. You should seriously at least call your local Snap On dealer and talk with him.

BTW, if your bro doesn't like paying dues, he shouldn't. I'm sure someone else would like that job, no one put a gun to his head and told him he had to take it or else. I'm sure he could get a job that was "union dues free" somewhere else, seeing as only 12% of workers are organized presently.

 

[Skin]

I would like to see more realistic sales fliers not like 2 bucks off a 50 dollar item.

i'll second this. To add to that their online monthly flier basically doesnt exist. Could take a lesson from MAC/Cornwell here. The prices for those [mediocre] deals are available online but the fliers arent published there, makes no sense. More $99 deals as well and make them more widely available instead of just half a dozen available to dealers who were in Lexington Virginia during the harvest moon on July the 18th.

 

[hershey66]

Thanks guys for posting tools that you would like to see come back/ be improved and keeping this thread going in the right direction that I intended it for.


To the Snap On Haters/Whiners GO START YOUR OWN THREAD!

 

[LawnDart79]

After reading this thread, it is apparent that many haven't read "Hiball's Words of Wisdom" thread. I really thought this thread had potential to be interesting, but it just turned into a big ******* match. That's unfortunate.

I get tired of the whiney ******* on here who constantly feel the need to ***** about how much Snap-On tools cost. I mean good grief, if you think the **** is too expensive, don't ******* buy it! That's easy enough isn't it?

 

[Al Bundy]

An unfortunate element of our modern society. Some people feel they are entitled to things they can't afford. Maybe they can get Obama to pass a law so they can get government assisted Snap On.

 

[pcpro15]

An unfortunate element of our modern society. Some people feel they are entitled to things they can't afford. Maybe they can get Obama to pass a law so they can get government assisted Snap On.

 

[Fudog]

Snap On makes excellent tools but if you take out the middle man such as the Driver/Salesman in the tool trucks wages the price on these quality tools would drop somewhat and start some outlet stores nationwide sales would probably skyrocket. Just another angle to look at. Thanks!

 

[BHH]

Snap On makes excellent tools but if you take out the middle man such as the Driver/Salesman in the tool trucks wages the price on these quality tools would drop somewhat and start some outlet stores nationwide sales would probably skyrocket. Just another angle to look at. Thanks!

Or provide a discount for ordering online.

Unfortunately this would put all the snap on dealers out of buisnes.

 

[Creditor]

An unfortunate element of our modern society. Some people feel they are entitled to things they can't afford. Maybe they can get Obama to pass a law so they can get government assisted Snap On.

I can see the protests now.

OCCUPY SNAP-ON!

 

[HandyManny]

After reading this thread, it is apparent that many haven't read "Hiball's Words of Wisdom" thread. I really thought this thread had potential to be interesting, but it just turned into a big ******* match. That's unfortunate.

I get tired of the whiney ******* on here who constantly feel the need to ***** about how much Snap-On tools cost. I mean good grief, if you think the **** is too expensive, don't ******* buy it! That's easy enough isn't it?

An unfortunate element of our modern society. Some people feel they are entitled to things they can't afford. Maybe they can get Obama to pass a law so they can get government assisted Snap On.

I agree. My bad for not sticking with the intended feedback the OP wanted. He surely wasn't trying to start a *******/bitching match and I didn't intend my feedback to be as such. Snap-On makes great high quality tools in general. I don't care about SO prices, good tools cost money either way you go. My only beef with SO is that you don't really need their basic hand tools to do a job for a living. The point I was trying to make is that myself, along with countless others I've known, and still more people I've never met, have made a good living wrenching professionally with other less prestigious branded yet high quality tools. Aside from a few specialty tools that SO offers, any mechanic can get the job done daily without much Snap-On. Not sure what more they can offer that they don't already have or that some other company doesn't have too.

 

[1984Datsun]

Where was I bitching? I don't see me (or anyone else for that matter) trying to make a point about something, prices or whatever, as bitching.

I have minor complaints about some of their tools, mainly the tap and die set.

The screw extractor set with drill bits was used, but hardly at all.

I'm trying to make a point that they don't need to charge that much to make money off of their tools. That's all.

Otherwise, yes, they're good tools with good quality. Not necessarily the best, certainly not the best for everything, but good like many other brands.

My intention was not to make this thing a ******* match, but when others keep quoting my posts, well, I gotta answer, right?

Government assist for Snap-On tools? Really? You want another tax payers' dollar eating political circlefucking machine? Less gov. control of small businesses and bureaus is what we need...

Anyhow, I'll leave you guys alone and send Snap-On an email about the tap and die set...

All you gotta do is quit quoting me. I don't leave very many shots unanswered.

 

[Wakefield]

I have probably mentioned this before but Snap On 1/2" drive breaker bars seem to be designed mostly with an eye for tight fits and being slender but I seem to hear about them breaking sometimes and I think they ought to make another model in 1/2" drive that is not slim for tight fits but rather is designed to survive being pulled on hard by football players with loctited bolts.

 

[buffalobill]

well, when you make unneeded potshots at people that have absolutely nothing to do with the original poster, then go on to complain about how you can't (and supposedly won't) afford them, yet later admit that you don't have a job, you sort of set yourself up for it. Lashing out at people and society in general will not land you a job.

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

Re: Your Snap On Tool Suggestions
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creditor
I will ask again if you have some kind of source to back up your claim.



Snap-on's overall corporate profit margin is around 10%. I believe that Apple has around a 25% margin and Google has 20%.



The United States recently went thru one of the longest recessions in history and we are in a very anemic economic recovery. The fact that Snap-on has come out of this recession in the financial position that it is in shows that something about their business model still works.



While it is obvious that you feel strongly about the fact that you are not satisfied with Snap-ons pricing. It is also obvious based on their sales figures that your sentiments are not shared by everyone.
Starting from the bottom of your post...

Of course not everyone agrees with me... but I do know many that do.
An old saying goes something like this... Where there's one, there's more standing behind them...


Yes, the economy is ******, and still will be for quite some time yet. Possibly get worse for a while before it gets better. You know who to thank for that. No, not that guy that sent the troops overseas. The guy that thinks bringing them back is a good idea... guess what, there's no jobs over here...


********, 10% profit margin... according to whom? You? Some other potentially falsifying data source? If that's true, they must have an overpowered and greedy union working in their factories.

(not that all union members are greedy, it's really the union that is. My brother is paying dues to the teacher's union... does he want to, hell no... does he think it's right that he must pay into it, hell no. He does it only because the damned union probably has enough power to remove any loans/benefits from him to use, and he can't afford to lose them. He'd rather be using that money on books, etc. not paying into other people's greed.)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_business_failures

Here is an entire ******** list of failed corporations for you to dig through... anything from corporate crime to poor business modelling. Notice the rise in the 2000's, probably a lot to do with both the economy and due to the better record keeping/lack of lost records.


Get a life Buddy,You know you are a loser when you take the time to write a 3 page essay on a web forum about how you hate Snap-on.

 

[CHRIS LUCKYMAN]

Every time on GJ. A few more trolls identified.