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Zero clearance suspended ceiling- Review

MushCreek

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I recently installed a suspended ceiling in my basement, and didn't want to give up any more headroom than necessary. I didn't want to do drywall, as all of my plumbing, electric, and HVAC is between the floor joists, and may need service or modification.

I did a google search, and found a couple companies that offer 'zero clearance' systems. I bought track from CeilingLink. http://www.ceilinglink.com/. I have no connection with this company, other than I bought their product.

This is a pretty slick system. A T-shaped extrusion is attached directly to the joists. The vertical leg of the T is double, and shaped to snap in another piece, flipped over to form a channel. Around the edges, you use L-shaped pieces screwed to the wall. Once the grid is attached, you install the panels of regular ceiling tiles- 2X2 or 2X4 feet. The second piece of material snaps into place, securing the panel. Should you need to access the space above, you remove the bottom track by pulling it out, and remove the panel(s) that you need to.

Installation was kinda slow. I'm old, and working overhead is not my strong suit. When I did my basement, I hadn't planned for a ceiling system. By sheer dumb luck, ALL of my overhead lights and outlets had to be moved. I couldn't have planned it worse if I had tried. I had to move 6 can lights, and outlet, and a smoke detector, as they all fell on the track locations. I also got the flu, so wasn't able to put in full days.

Installing the track needs to be pretty accurate. Too far apart, and the panels aren't fully held. Too tight, and they won't fit. I used a laser to make good straight lines, and made a spacer to accurately space the rows of track. At first, I used the laser to mark lines on the studs, but found it was just easier to leave the laser on rather than making marks. Working around obstacles, such as a 6X6 post in the middle takes some planning and creativity.

Installing the panels is straightforward, until you get to the end of a run. With one hand, hold the panel, with your other hand, hold the piece of track, with your third hand, hold the cross-T.... It is possible, and easier than it sounds, but I honestly couldn't give you a written description. It's even more baffling when you get to a corner, but again. I did it, somehow. It's important to remember that the track is very flexible; the panels are NOT.

Which leads me to my next comment. The cheap panels are VERY fragile. I got a lot of damaged ones in the boxes. The big box store will give you credit for damaged ones if you have a receipt. I had to dig through piles of cases to find ones that weren't already damaged. I also found damaged panels inside of good ones, which tells me that some of them come damaged from the factory. Because I had to cut a lot of them, I was able to work around the damage, rather than having to return them. The flat white finish is also a dirt magnet, and somehow, you're hands get dirty, so keep 'em clean, or you'll have smudges on your new ceiling.

Check out their website for photos, instructions, pricing, etc. All in all, I'm very pleased with the system and results. When done, it looks like any other suspended ceiling, but I only lost 1" of headroom. I've never done a traditional suspended ceiling, so can't comment on comparative cost and ease of installation.
 

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58Yeoman

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Looks good, Mush. My house came with the traditional suspended ceiling in the basement, so I lost some headroom.
 

ckucia

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I gave some serious thought to using them at our old house, but we ended up selling it.

Biggest hurdles were I couldn't find them locally, and the bottoms of the joists in our old house weren't level, so I would have had to shim quite a bit to get the ceiling flat -once I figured out where "flat" was.
 

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I put the same thing in half of my basement several years ago and have been very happy with it. I'll be doing the rest of the basement this summer and will use the same product. I've researched similar products and I think I still like ceilinglink the best, The only problem I have is when you do eventually have to get into the ceiling you wind up taking down 2 rows at a time. That isn't a problem if you have help but doing it by yourself it's tricky to prevent tiles dropping out here and there leading to damaged corners.
 

garrett1812

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Thanks for the info and pics. I have been debating this for my basement as well. I much prefer the look of drywall, but know I would regret it next time I had to add an electric line or fix a water line.
 

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Thanks for posting. I've decided to go with a suspended ceiling in my shop.

Since I have 9 1/2 foot ceilings I can afford the extra inches for regular metal grids...but the main reason I decided on suspended is because I want to use led light panels - and it turns out that if you want decent light levels, it takes a TON of lights.

My ceiling is set for drywall, but flush mounting kits for LED panels are $25-30 and a bunch of work (which makes no sense to me for a $35-70 light fixture....) So a grid seems like the way to go - just pop the LED panels in every 4 feet or so and get a good look that still gives access if needed.

From what I can see, it sounds like these plastic grids cannot hold lights up, so that is something to consider for this option too.
 

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My dad used this, or something very close to it, in his basement. Came out really nice. His light fixtures are flush, not held by the ceiling track, mounted to the joists.

Previous owner of my house did a traditional suspended ceiling, without any idea how to arrange not to end up with a 1” strip on one side, and without a level, string, or any other reference, so it’s kinda wavy. One day, I’m going to take it down and re-do it with this type of grid.


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Keith_MN

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I installed a system like this in my old house. It turned out good.

The bottom track of the system I used snapped in so hard that it was very hard to remove to get a panel out without damaging the tile.
 
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MushCreek

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Just bumping this up for anyone who hasn't seen this kind of system. I remembered that I had posted about it, and I was just down in the basement pulling panels down to run an ethernet cable. Over the years, I figured out that if you have a long run to do (in my case, 32' or 8 panels) you can just take one out and then slide the panels back and forth to gain access to where you need to run the wire. A lot easier than removing all 8 panels. I trashed a panel when I started because I ran out of hands to hold up two panels side-by-side as I removed the tee, and one fell. When I put them back, I used a telescoping painting pole to hold the panels in place while I wrestled with the tee.
 

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We had a zero clearance suspended ceiling system in our basement when we bought the house. At the time, I thought it was awesome because we have 9’ basement ceiling height. Removing the snap in pieces was an absolute *****. They had two sets of locks to snap in. It was ridiculous trying to rip them out when needed. Got so pissed off, I tore that **** out and drywalled. If I remember correctly, my system was made by Armstrong. I think it was called ceiling max.
 

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I'm looking at redoing our garage ceiling, it's a horrible system with solid 2x4 wood panels and wood slots that fit around them and screw into the joists. It's shifted over time, it's a pain in the a$$ to get any of it down if you need access above. Plus now there are multiple damaged tiles and no replacements.
My worry with this setup is of those tracks get brittle and break with age. I've been thinking of doing a suspended ceiling as high as I can get it using the bendable fiberglass panels.
 

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Just bumping this up for anyone who hasn't seen this kind of system.

Nice looking system, and great timing on your bump. We just pulled down some staple up 12” tiles in a rental house we are fixing up. Were thinking of going for more staple up tiles, but this system looks much nicer. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions.
 

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I've hung traditional suspended ceilings by keeping the track tight and sort of building it as you go . the panels are somewhat moveable with care . replacing panels are a bit more difficult
 
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