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zmotorsports
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Thanks Keith. It sure speeds up the masking process on components such as these.
ZMotorsports Shop Projects 2.0
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Thanks Keith. It sure speeds up the masking process on components such as these.
Instead of red rags or expensive paper towels, I've been using cheap or old microfibers when cleaning up oily messes with brake clean. They work wayyy better and faster. Not sure if you do the same but figured I'd put it out there.
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I like using the PIG absorbent mats/pads for drips and working on messy things on the workbench. I started using them about 30 years ago for things such as dissaembling components and letting them drip overnight. For a bit larger drips, I toss down a drip pan but for the most part, the PIG pads do a great job. I stock them in low and medium absorbent pad thicknesses.
As for shop towels, I quit using the red cloth shop towels in my home shop about 25 years ago after an oiling issue on an engine rebuild and finding the fibers stuck to the pickup screen. We still use them at work but they have no place in my home shop.
For the past 25 years or so, I have only been using the Kimberly Clark Wipeall towels. For any engine assembly, I use the lint free ones and for general shop use, I use the X80 blue and red. I use them in stages, stage 1 are clean out of the box that I have in my apron and then they get passed to stage 2 which is for use on the tool cart and workbench when actually handling parts and for wiping tools before they go back into the toolbox, then stage 3 for use of wiping down oily or dirty components under the vehicle and lastly to stage 4 where they are pretty contaminated and used to wipe up oil spills on the floor or wipe off grease zerks, then the next stage is the garbage.
I usually buy these in bulk, like brake cleaner, when they go on sale from either Zoro, Grainger or my local NAPA.
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Watch for them on sale through Zoro and then use a 20% discount and that really helps. Last time I ordered a few cases of the X80 towels and they last quite a while using them in stages like I mentioned.
SilverJimmy
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Mike, I’ve been following your thread here for a couple years and I get numerous tips from you on many things from techniques to recommended shop supplies and tools. Have you ever thought of starting a new thread called “Mike’s Likes” where you could list an item with maybe a link to Amazon or where it’s available.
I believe if I click on a Amazon link on here Ryan gets a spiff for having it on his site to help with expenses and I’m sure to get what I have seen on your thread.
When I bought the tap and drill guides directly from the manufacturer I was sure to tell them where I had seen them. They were very happy to have the exposure and endorsement.
I believe if I click on a Amazon link on here Ryan gets a spiff for having it on his site to help with expenses and I’m sure to get what I have seen on your thread.
When I bought the tap and drill guides directly from the manufacturer I was sure to tell them where I had seen them. They were very happy to have the exposure and endorsement.
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Truth be told Sterling, I really don't think too awfully much about some of the tools or supplies I use in my shop. Although I am very flattered by your comments, in my head, I just use what I've found to work in my application and have purchased tools to perform a specific task or tasks. I realize that not everyone's expectations nor applications will be the same as mine.
It's you guys here on Garage Journal that bring those items to the surface as you see them in the various pictures that I share, then the conversations happen following that. It's those conversations that make this forum so great as the exchange of ideas, information and suggestions that we all get to learn from in an open format, myself included. Hell, most of the time someone will question something in one of my pictures and I actually have to go back and look to see what they are referring to as you guys have some serious observation skills.
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Hope everyone had a nice weekend.
It was busy one for me and the wife, but enjoyable.
I was able to locate a new axle retaining clip on Friday from my local GM dealer. I overlaid the old with the new to ensure I had all the pieces. Turns out I was missing a small piece and luckily it was still stuck in the groove of the shaft. I found it during a thorough cleaning in the solvent tank.
Here is the part number for the new retaining clip.
With everything cleaned and prepped, I installed the new retaining clip onto the axle shaft. I also apply a little assembly grease to not only aid in sliding back into the side gear in the differential, but also to hold the retaining clip in position. When installing, make sure that the ends of the clip are down inside the groove or you can catch one going back in and peel it off the splines and worse, get it jammed in the splines and damage something. I like to place the ends at the 12 O'clock position and use gravity to keep them below the spline's edge, the grease also aids with this.
Axle shaft slid into position and I made sure it snapped fully into position by trying to pull it back out.
With the axle shaft in place, I applied some Loctite to a couple of bolts and positioned the CV shaft up to the axle stub shaft with the aluminum spacer located in between. After starting a couple of bolts to hold things in place I applied thread locker to the remaining bolts and started them all and snugged down evenly.
With the bolts snugged down, I used my long prybar to lock into a couple of wheel studs and hold the axle assembly from spinning while I torqued the mounting bolts to 58 ft/lbs.
I then moved over and repearted the process on the passenger's side.
With the front axle completed, I added the proper amount of gear oil and then before reinstalling the skid, I removed the leaking steering stabalizer.
Sat it next to the OE replacement for comparison.
New steering stabalizer installed and ready to button things up.
Stay tuned for more.....
It was busy one for me and the wife, but enjoyable.
I was able to locate a new axle retaining clip on Friday from my local GM dealer. I overlaid the old with the new to ensure I had all the pieces. Turns out I was missing a small piece and luckily it was still stuck in the groove of the shaft. I found it during a thorough cleaning in the solvent tank.
Here is the part number for the new retaining clip.
With everything cleaned and prepped, I installed the new retaining clip onto the axle shaft. I also apply a little assembly grease to not only aid in sliding back into the side gear in the differential, but also to hold the retaining clip in position. When installing, make sure that the ends of the clip are down inside the groove or you can catch one going back in and peel it off the splines and worse, get it jammed in the splines and damage something. I like to place the ends at the 12 O'clock position and use gravity to keep them below the spline's edge, the grease also aids with this.
Axle shaft slid into position and I made sure it snapped fully into position by trying to pull it back out.
With the axle shaft in place, I applied some Loctite to a couple of bolts and positioned the CV shaft up to the axle stub shaft with the aluminum spacer located in between. After starting a couple of bolts to hold things in place I applied thread locker to the remaining bolts and started them all and snugged down evenly.
With the bolts snugged down, I used my long prybar to lock into a couple of wheel studs and hold the axle assembly from spinning while I torqued the mounting bolts to 58 ft/lbs.
I then moved over and repearted the process on the passenger's side.
With the front axle completed, I added the proper amount of gear oil and then before reinstalling the skid, I removed the leaking steering stabalizer.
Sat it next to the OE replacement for comparison.
New steering stabalizer installed and ready to button things up.
Stay tuned for more.....
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Continuing on with the truck's major service.
Before reinstalling the aluminum skid under the front suspension crossmember, I gave it a thorough cleaning as it had some oil residue.
Skid installed. It's unfortunate that the nice pretty and recently painted axle housing is not even visible once the skid is installed. Oh well, I know it's freshly painted and can sleep better at night.
Before reinstalling the tires/wheels, I moved on to the next item on my list. The replacement of the rubber grommet for the windshield washer pump. I was fairly certain this was my leak as it was damp around the base of the pump where it went into the grommet and the reservoir. I removed a couple of tree barbs and moved the inner fender well back to gain better access and then I used my OTC clip tool to push up on the retaining clip and disconnect the electrical connection from the pump. I was originally planning on removing the reservoir to accomplish this but with the inner fender well moved out of the way it seemed like it would be less work than removing the battery, battery tray and gaining access to the reservoir from the topside.
Once I pulled the old grommet out I noticed it was still pretty pliable and I couldn't see a tear in it anywhere. Hmm.
New OEM rubber grommet from GM.
Once the washer reservoir issue was addressed, I reinstalled the tires/wheels and torqued them to spec. I also replaced the brake fluid prior to reinstalling the tires/wheels but for some reason I forgot to photograph the task.
Sitting down on all four again.
Another maintenance task I have on my checklist is the lubing of the pivot points for my power steps. This keeps them squeak free and performaing as designed.
Adding all of the fluids.
That was it for the major maintenance of our 2006 Silverado 2500HD Duramax.
Before reinstalling the aluminum skid under the front suspension crossmember, I gave it a thorough cleaning as it had some oil residue.
Skid installed. It's unfortunate that the nice pretty and recently painted axle housing is not even visible once the skid is installed. Oh well, I know it's freshly painted and can sleep better at night.
Before reinstalling the tires/wheels, I moved on to the next item on my list. The replacement of the rubber grommet for the windshield washer pump. I was fairly certain this was my leak as it was damp around the base of the pump where it went into the grommet and the reservoir. I removed a couple of tree barbs and moved the inner fender well back to gain better access and then I used my OTC clip tool to push up on the retaining clip and disconnect the electrical connection from the pump. I was originally planning on removing the reservoir to accomplish this but with the inner fender well moved out of the way it seemed like it would be less work than removing the battery, battery tray and gaining access to the reservoir from the topside.
Once I pulled the old grommet out I noticed it was still pretty pliable and I couldn't see a tear in it anywhere. Hmm.
New OEM rubber grommet from GM.
Once the washer reservoir issue was addressed, I reinstalled the tires/wheels and torqued them to spec. I also replaced the brake fluid prior to reinstalling the tires/wheels but for some reason I forgot to photograph the task.
Sitting down on all four again.
Another maintenance task I have on my checklist is the lubing of the pivot points for my power steps. This keeps them squeak free and performaing as designed.
Adding all of the fluids.
That was it for the major maintenance of our 2006 Silverado 2500HD Duramax.
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The wife and I had an event to go to on Saturday night so that is where I quit for the night and closed up the shop.
I had one more item to do on the truck but figured I would go out Sunday morning and address the last item on my list and take it on a short road test.
I had a small plastic clip on my A-pillar that broke about a year ago. I had tried using a soldering iron to melt the plastic enough to hold the small steel clip in place and it worked for a short while, but not very long. I figured I would scuff up the surrounding area of the plastic, mix up some JB Weld and apply it to the plastic and encapsulate the steel clip. I figured I would show my chopstick technique in use. The wife and I seldom eat with chopsticks, but when we do get takeout, I ask for a couple sets of chopsticks because they work perfect for mixing and applying epoxy.
Here's another tip, once the epoxy is mixed, break off the end used for mixing. Lesson learned here as I didn't do this one time in the past and ended up with epoxy where I didn't want epoxy. By removing the epoxy covered end, it eliminates the chance of touching yourself or something else that you don't want epoxy on.
Then flip the chopstick around and use the nice clean end for the application of the epoxy. Sorry, I didn't get any pictures of the epoxy in place as I was trying not to get it all over my interior and get the A-pillar back into position to cure.
Once the road test was complete and the fluids were checked and epoxy applied to the interior piece I figured I would back it out of the shop and put it back in the attached garage. Before doing so I thought I'd hit the washer pump and clean the windshield and make sure the lines were purged of any air. The pump assembly had been back installed in the new rubber grommet since the day before, so I jumped out of the truck to make sure I grabbed my logbook that I keep in the glove box of the truck off the workbench and that's when I saw washer fluid pouring out from under the truck.
I threw a pan down to catch the fluid as it was a steady stream. I couldn't figure out why it had sat there for all that time without a drip, then once I hit the washer pump it poured out. I grabbed a creeper and crawled back under with a mirror and flashlight to determine that it looked like it was actually coming from the pump, about mid-way up the body. Dangit, I misdiagnosed that leak.
I didn't even think it could be the actual pump as it was wet right around the grommet. So I guess I need to locate a washer pump now and do it all over again.
I had one more item to do on the truck but figured I would go out Sunday morning and address the last item on my list and take it on a short road test.
I had a small plastic clip on my A-pillar that broke about a year ago. I had tried using a soldering iron to melt the plastic enough to hold the small steel clip in place and it worked for a short while, but not very long. I figured I would scuff up the surrounding area of the plastic, mix up some JB Weld and apply it to the plastic and encapsulate the steel clip. I figured I would show my chopstick technique in use. The wife and I seldom eat with chopsticks, but when we do get takeout, I ask for a couple sets of chopsticks because they work perfect for mixing and applying epoxy.
Here's another tip, once the epoxy is mixed, break off the end used for mixing. Lesson learned here as I didn't do this one time in the past and ended up with epoxy where I didn't want epoxy. By removing the epoxy covered end, it eliminates the chance of touching yourself or something else that you don't want epoxy on.
Then flip the chopstick around and use the nice clean end for the application of the epoxy. Sorry, I didn't get any pictures of the epoxy in place as I was trying not to get it all over my interior and get the A-pillar back into position to cure.
Once the road test was complete and the fluids were checked and epoxy applied to the interior piece I figured I would back it out of the shop and put it back in the attached garage. Before doing so I thought I'd hit the washer pump and clean the windshield and make sure the lines were purged of any air. The pump assembly had been back installed in the new rubber grommet since the day before, so I jumped out of the truck to make sure I grabbed my logbook that I keep in the glove box of the truck off the workbench and that's when I saw washer fluid pouring out from under the truck.
I threw a pan down to catch the fluid as it was a steady stream. I couldn't figure out why it had sat there for all that time without a drip, then once I hit the washer pump it poured out. I grabbed a creeper and crawled back under with a mirror and flashlight to determine that it looked like it was actually coming from the pump, about mid-way up the body. Dangit, I misdiagnosed that leak.
I didn't even think it could be the actual pump as it was wet right around the grommet. So I guess I need to locate a washer pump now and do it all over again.
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zmotorsports
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After parking the truck, and being a bit frustrated that it was still leaking, I went about a thorough shop cleaning and swept up and wiped benches down in preparation for the next job.
I also got some Final Inspection and cleaned the bugs off the front of the Camaro, then shifted it over to the middle of the shop and put the cover back on.
We were having the kids and grandson come over for dinner for my son's birthday. He asked that we grill burgers for his birthday dinner so the wife made some beans and had all the burger fixin's and it had been a while since I gave the grill a good detail so with colder weather coming and the fact that we still use our grill throughout the winter, I figured I would take some time to disassemble the grates, vacuum the inside of the grill and give it a good wipe down with Sheila Shine before the kids came over.
I threw some burgers on the grill and used the side burner to cook some mushrooms and onions.
We had a nice meal and enjoyed playing with our adorable grandson for a couple of hours.
I am really getting used to this whole grandpa thing, and I love it.
I also got some Final Inspection and cleaned the bugs off the front of the Camaro, then shifted it over to the middle of the shop and put the cover back on.
We were having the kids and grandson come over for dinner for my son's birthday. He asked that we grill burgers for his birthday dinner so the wife made some beans and had all the burger fixin's and it had been a while since I gave the grill a good detail so with colder weather coming and the fact that we still use our grill throughout the winter, I figured I would take some time to disassemble the grates, vacuum the inside of the grill and give it a good wipe down with Sheila Shine before the kids came over.
I threw some burgers on the grill and used the side burner to cook some mushrooms and onions.
We had a nice meal and enjoyed playing with our adorable grandson for a couple of hours.
I am really getting used to this whole grandpa thing, and I love it.
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If anyone is interested, I did record the axle seal replacement highlights and post it to my YouTube channel.
HotRod68Camaro
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You know i'm interested!
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I hope it is helpful.
txvwnut
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Grandkids are the best, they come over you spend time with them and then send them home. Usually spoiled to the max.After parking the truck, and being a bit frustrated that it was still leaking, I went about a thorough shop cleaning and swept up and wiped benches down in preparation for the next job.
I also got some Final Inspection and cleaned the bugs off the front of the Camaro, then shifted it over to the middle of the shop and put the cover back on.
We were having the kids and grandson come over for dinner for my son's birthday. He asked that we grill burgers for his birthday dinner so the wife made some beans and had all the burger fixin's and it had been a while since I gave the grill a good detail so with colder weather coming and the fact that we still use our grill throughout the winter, I figured I would take some time to disassemble the grates, vacuum the inside of the grill and give it a good wipe down with Sheila Shine before the kids came over.
I threw some burgers on the grill and used the side burner to cook some mushrooms and onions.
We had a nice meal and enjoyed playing with our adorable grandson for a couple of hours.
I am really getting used to this whole grandpa thing, and I love it.
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zmotorsports
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Agreed. We love that little guy. It's not that we love our grandson any more than our son, it's just that we have a little imitation of our son running around that we get to hug and spoil now and it's like having another chance, only this time we are at a different place in life and have a little more disposable income to spend.
I was so busy with life and providing for my family when our son was young that I don't want to be too busy to spend time with my grandson. I don't feel like I ever neglected my son, but there were times **** had to get done and I may not have been able to spend the quality time on everything with him that I would have liked.
Now I get to slow down and spend more quality time with my son and his family at this point in life. At least that's the plan.
Another hope is that by the time the wife and I retire, he will be around 7-8 years old and will want to hang out in the shop with me building cool ****.
mike528
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Another suggestion for something to do with the grandson that I enjoyed doing with my grandparents, they took us on a 2 week trip "out west" (relative term, considering we live in bfe Ohio). they took all of the grandkids when they reached the jr high/ high school age. 4 of the cousins went first then me and my brother when we where old enough. went through wisconsin dells, st louis arch, mt rushmore, crazy horse, devils tower, etc.
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As much as the wife and I travel in our coach, I am confident there will be a time when they let us take our grandson on some of our travels. That is something else I am looking forward to. He came up to me the other night saying "papa keys Jeep". He loves standing up at the steering wheel of my Jeep and I am looking forward to letting him drive off-road when he can reach the pedals.
Our son was driving the Jeep off-road by around the age of 12 and loved it. I remember my mother-in-law being very nervous during one trip when as soon as we pulled off the pavement, I pulled over and swapped places with my son so he could drive. By this time he had been driving off-road for about a year or so but this was the first time my MIL had experienced it and she was not quite sure what to think.
SilverJimmy
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One of my favorite memories of my dad was when I was around 5 years old he took me to work with him. He was the manager at a concrete batch plant in Reno, Nevada and he would get everything up and running before the drivers came in the day to deliver concrete. That cold morning he showed me how to get the Skip Loader running by spraying ether into the intake (I love that smell to this day!) and then he “let” me drive the loader while we filled the bins with rock and sand for the days needs. When I got home that day I was certain I was a certified equipment operator for that cement plant! I’m sure your grandson will be ready for the Rubicon after his first drive!
ntsqd
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Grandparents had a slightly sinuous driveway that was nearly a 1/2 mile long, with ample room to turn around at both ends. I was about 11, maybe 12 when grandad first had me drive his T-Bird 292 powered '51 F1 out in the field. Not long after I was driving it up and down the driveway. When that got boring I started backing up and down the driveway. When that got boring I asked him if I could drive the '62 F-600 5 speed manual.....
I learned to drive at 8/9 all by myself. My brother left his van in front of the house while he was in the service and I found his keys buried under the floor mat. Both my folks worked and I'd drive it up and down the street.............
until the day I got caught.
until the day I got caught.
PugetDude
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At 15 I used to drive a Chevy Vega that belonged to an old German guy who I did odd jobs for. He assumed I had a license, I never told him otherwise so he let me drive it to the hardware store, garden center, lumberyard, etc. for whatever we needed for that days project. Never got caught.I learned to drive at 8/9 all by myself. My brother left his van in front of the house while he was in the service and I found his keys buried under the floor mat. Both my folks worked and I'd drive it up and down the street.............
until the day I got caught.
I taught my son to drive at 13 in a 5 speed Neon that I used to sign out from work.
If he had a good week at school, homework done, assignments turned in, etc. we would go driving back country roads early Sunday morning. I would guess he had several hundred miles of practice in that car.
Me, I learned to drive back roads and farm lanes at about 11 or 12.
Almost always in a pickup ,usually with a three on the tree.
If he had a good week at school, homework done, assignments turned in, etc. we would go driving back country roads early Sunday morning. I would guess he had several hundred miles of practice in that car.
Me, I learned to drive back roads and farm lanes at about 11 or 12.
Almost always in a pickup ,usually with a three on the tree.
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Similar story....I was on a ScooterI learned to drive at 8/9 all by myself. My brother left his van in front of the house while he was in the service and I found his keys buried under the floor mat. Both my folks worked and I'd drive it up and down the street.............
until the day I got caught.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I navigate/codrive a naturally aspirated RZR 1000 for 2 kids; they were both 11yo when I started. In 2 seasons we've won a LOT of races (including this weekend). I tell people this and they always ask me if its scary to ride with kids? Nope, kids are far more able than people give them credit for. They lack the critical thinking and mechanical ability (that's what I'm for....also hard to believe), but they are phenomenal drivers. This weekend we beat the factory Kawasaki car, and the kids are now only 12 and 13yo. There are numerous cases when the "kids are being kids" and I look at them and say "I can't believe I put my life in your hands!" 
gearhead1960
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The stories we could tell about being caught or getting away with things as dumb young adults.... . Brings to mind the time we were cruising in my buddy's mom's 64 1/2 Mustang. We saw the neighbor coming from the other direction and knowing we weren't authorized to be in the car, we all (including driver) ducked as the neighbor approached........
. Brings to mind the time we were cruising in my buddy's mom's 64 1/2 Mustang. We saw the neighbor coming from the other direction and knowing we weren't authorized to be in the car, we all (including driver) ducked as the neighbor approached........Bob Heine
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Mark, I'm not sure the statute of limitations has expired on some of the stuff I did as a dumb young adult so I won't admit to them today.
PugetDude
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And some of those things have probably since been upgraded from misdemeanors to felonies.
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The wife and I took off the better part of last week to squeeze our last RV trip in for the season.
I will include several posts with pictures from the trip.
Hooked up in the backyard and ready to hit the road. We delayed leaving until around 9am on Wednesday to avoid Salt Lake Co. and Utah Co. traffic. It worked as we breezed right through without ever having to kick the cruise control off until we hit the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon (Hwy 6).
We arrived in Green River around 1 pm and after the short period of setting up camp we took off and explored some more around the Utah Missile Complex and a few surrounding trails south of Green River, UT.
Thursday was supposed to be hit and miss as far as clouds and sun but a much larger storm was supposed to be rolling in. Wanting to get ahead of it so we could enjoy some miles of dirt trails, we took off and headed north of Green River about 20 miles and then headed west on the Green River cutoff trail that took us through a nice winding canyon where we have seen some big horn sheep in the past, but not this trip.
We ended up at the Wedge, which is also known as the "Little Grand Canyon". We arrived here a bit quicker than we thought as we saw no one on the trail up until this point. There were a few campers around the Wedge but for such a beautiful day it was nice and quiet. We stopped at an overlook for a quick snack and enjoyed the view.
While we were enjoying our snack, I scanned through the downloaded US Forest Service maps that I had downloaded before the trip and compared them to some of our recorded tracks in our library and found a road that headed northwest, back towards Castle Dale for a few miles, before making a hard turn south and headed towards Muddy Creek by way of Fuller's Bottom. We had never been there but had been to Coal Wash where the trail from Fuller's Bottom eventually connected, so we decided to give it a try. The storm looked like it was to our northwest and he had spotty blue sky above us so as long as we stayed well ahead of the storm I wasn't worried to be down in the wash, at least not at first.
As we approached Fuller's Bottom, we quickly found ourselves in some beautiful trees in the peak of changing for the season.
Driving through the trees in this kind of oasis in the desert.
Then we came to Muddy Creek. It was a bit hard to tell how deep it was so I inched in a little at a time, especially since we were alone and no other vehicles had been seen up to this point once we left the Wedge.
After coming out of the creek and climbing out of the low spot around Fuller's Bottom, we headed towards Coal Wash on a narrow two-track.
I had read about an area called "the drips" in a hiking guide. I was surprised to see it listed on the US Forest Service map so we set out to locate it. We found it but it wasn't as big as I thought it would be, but it was cool to see the water seeping from the sandstone rock.
Just as we were entering Coal Wash at the northern end, I took a shot of the sky behind us and this seemed to be gaining strength. The goal was to get through the wash and climb out taking either Devil's Racetrack or Eva Conover trails which would lead us back to where we could connect with I-70 and head back east towards Green River.
By this time we had blue sky over us and the dark sky was gaining some distance behind us so we found a nice overlook and stopped for lunch. We packed a small lunch as we had our sites set on a nice dinner at one of our favorite places to eat in the area.
Beautiful view looking down into Coal Wash.
Stay tuned for more pictures....
I will include several posts with pictures from the trip.
Hooked up in the backyard and ready to hit the road. We delayed leaving until around 9am on Wednesday to avoid Salt Lake Co. and Utah Co. traffic. It worked as we breezed right through without ever having to kick the cruise control off until we hit the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon (Hwy 6).
We arrived in Green River around 1 pm and after the short period of setting up camp we took off and explored some more around the Utah Missile Complex and a few surrounding trails south of Green River, UT.
Thursday was supposed to be hit and miss as far as clouds and sun but a much larger storm was supposed to be rolling in. Wanting to get ahead of it so we could enjoy some miles of dirt trails, we took off and headed north of Green River about 20 miles and then headed west on the Green River cutoff trail that took us through a nice winding canyon where we have seen some big horn sheep in the past, but not this trip.
We ended up at the Wedge, which is also known as the "Little Grand Canyon". We arrived here a bit quicker than we thought as we saw no one on the trail up until this point. There were a few campers around the Wedge but for such a beautiful day it was nice and quiet. We stopped at an overlook for a quick snack and enjoyed the view.
While we were enjoying our snack, I scanned through the downloaded US Forest Service maps that I had downloaded before the trip and compared them to some of our recorded tracks in our library and found a road that headed northwest, back towards Castle Dale for a few miles, before making a hard turn south and headed towards Muddy Creek by way of Fuller's Bottom. We had never been there but had been to Coal Wash where the trail from Fuller's Bottom eventually connected, so we decided to give it a try. The storm looked like it was to our northwest and he had spotty blue sky above us so as long as we stayed well ahead of the storm I wasn't worried to be down in the wash, at least not at first.
As we approached Fuller's Bottom, we quickly found ourselves in some beautiful trees in the peak of changing for the season.
Driving through the trees in this kind of oasis in the desert.
Then we came to Muddy Creek. It was a bit hard to tell how deep it was so I inched in a little at a time, especially since we were alone and no other vehicles had been seen up to this point once we left the Wedge.
After coming out of the creek and climbing out of the low spot around Fuller's Bottom, we headed towards Coal Wash on a narrow two-track.
I had read about an area called "the drips" in a hiking guide. I was surprised to see it listed on the US Forest Service map so we set out to locate it. We found it but it wasn't as big as I thought it would be, but it was cool to see the water seeping from the sandstone rock.
Just as we were entering Coal Wash at the northern end, I took a shot of the sky behind us and this seemed to be gaining strength. The goal was to get through the wash and climb out taking either Devil's Racetrack or Eva Conover trails which would lead us back to where we could connect with I-70 and head back east towards Green River.
By this time we had blue sky over us and the dark sky was gaining some distance behind us so we found a nice overlook and stopped for lunch. We packed a small lunch as we had our sites set on a nice dinner at one of our favorite places to eat in the area.
Beautiful view looking down into Coal Wash.
Stay tuned for more pictures....
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Continuing on with our trip.
Another shot looking down into Coal Wash from our lunch spot up on the ridge. We decided to take Eva Conover trail back towards I-70 as for the most part it runs up along the ridge and not down in the wash as much.
Another shot from our lunch spot.
And this was looming right behind us. This is why we chose to take the trail that would keep us up and out of the wash as much as possible. There were a few times when we dropped down into the wash to cross over but I was getting a bit anxious and didn't want to alarm the wife. I kept telling her we were fine but there were two times in particular we were in the narrow wash longer than I liked. I kept looking to the sides watching for an area to climb high if we noticed water coming, although many times that is too late. We've been caught in one flash flood early on in our marriage and that was enough for me. Now I'm a bit more cautious to not be around when they're possible.
We pushed on, at a bit quicker pace at times than I liked, but we eventually made it up and out of the wash. We were about a half mile from I-70 when it started to rain. Once we hit the interstate, I found an area to air up without getting drenched and then we headed towards town. By this time it was getting a bit later in the afternoon and we were still 45-minutes from town but as soon as we hit the interstate the skies opened up. I could see a sigh of relief from the wife but I continued to let her know we were fine and not in any danger as we had been up on the ridge line for the past hour and a half and would have been fine even if it started to rain an hour or so earlier.
As we arrived back in Green River, we were getting hungry so we headed straight to dinner rather than back to the coach first. We always make a visit to Ray's Tavern when we're in the area as they have awesome burgers and pretty tasty steaks as well. The wife really likes their Teriyaki chicken dinner and their fries are home cut and delicious.
We decided not to run any trials on Friday as it rained all night Thursday night and was still a steady downpour on Friday morning. We decided to sleep in for a bit and maybe go next door for breakfast and decide where to go for the day where we wouldn't get caught in a flood nor get the Jeep completely covered in mud.
The Tamarisk restaurant has a nice breakfast, so we sat and enjoyed watching it rain while we ate.
We then decided we were only about 45-miles from Moab so maybe we would drive out to Canyonlands NP as it has been nearly 10 years since we visited the NP. We were in Arches a few years ago and they still required reservations this late in the year so Canyonlands it was. Here it is still raining quite hard but it made for great pictures as headed south on Hwy. 191 towards Moab.
As we drove up into Canyonlands NP, we found ourselves driving right up into the clouds.
And heavier rain.
There were a few miles where visibility was terrible as we were in thick clouds along Hwy. 313 headed towards Island in the Sky.
Just as we hit the end of the road the clouds started to part enough that we got some amazing views looking down into the valley below.
Stay tuned for more pictures to follow...
Another shot looking down into Coal Wash from our lunch spot up on the ridge. We decided to take Eva Conover trail back towards I-70 as for the most part it runs up along the ridge and not down in the wash as much.
Another shot from our lunch spot.
And this was looming right behind us. This is why we chose to take the trail that would keep us up and out of the wash as much as possible. There were a few times when we dropped down into the wash to cross over but I was getting a bit anxious and didn't want to alarm the wife. I kept telling her we were fine but there were two times in particular we were in the narrow wash longer than I liked. I kept looking to the sides watching for an area to climb high if we noticed water coming, although many times that is too late. We've been caught in one flash flood early on in our marriage and that was enough for me. Now I'm a bit more cautious to not be around when they're possible.
We pushed on, at a bit quicker pace at times than I liked, but we eventually made it up and out of the wash. We were about a half mile from I-70 when it started to rain. Once we hit the interstate, I found an area to air up without getting drenched and then we headed towards town. By this time it was getting a bit later in the afternoon and we were still 45-minutes from town but as soon as we hit the interstate the skies opened up. I could see a sigh of relief from the wife but I continued to let her know we were fine and not in any danger as we had been up on the ridge line for the past hour and a half and would have been fine even if it started to rain an hour or so earlier.
As we arrived back in Green River, we were getting hungry so we headed straight to dinner rather than back to the coach first. We always make a visit to Ray's Tavern when we're in the area as they have awesome burgers and pretty tasty steaks as well. The wife really likes their Teriyaki chicken dinner and their fries are home cut and delicious.
We decided not to run any trials on Friday as it rained all night Thursday night and was still a steady downpour on Friday morning. We decided to sleep in for a bit and maybe go next door for breakfast and decide where to go for the day where we wouldn't get caught in a flood nor get the Jeep completely covered in mud.
The Tamarisk restaurant has a nice breakfast, so we sat and enjoyed watching it rain while we ate.
We then decided we were only about 45-miles from Moab so maybe we would drive out to Canyonlands NP as it has been nearly 10 years since we visited the NP. We were in Arches a few years ago and they still required reservations this late in the year so Canyonlands it was. Here it is still raining quite hard but it made for great pictures as headed south on Hwy. 191 towards Moab.
As we drove up into Canyonlands NP, we found ourselves driving right up into the clouds.
And heavier rain.
There were a few miles where visibility was terrible as we were in thick clouds along Hwy. 313 headed towards Island in the Sky.
Just as we hit the end of the road the clouds started to part enough that we got some amazing views looking down into the valley below.
Stay tuned for more pictures to follow...
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Continuing on.
Looking down into the valley with the monuments and red rock walls in the distance.
The canyon that the Green River has cut through the valley below is spectacular and makes for some great pictures. Personally, I don't think the Grand Canyon has anything on this part of the country. I'll take this view any day of the week. Sure makes a person feel small by comparison.
As we worked out way back towards town after putting on a couple hundred miles of exploring we decided to give the local food truck a try. We have talked to people who make this a stop whenever they are in the area and have read the reviews but in the four years we've been going to the Swell, we have yet to try this place. It is an old gas station that has been converted with tables inside and the food truck outside. It doesn't look like much, but in our travels, we have found those are the best places.
We ordered and then headed back to the coach to eat as it was still quite cold outside.
The food was delicious and did not disappoint.
It rained off and on throughout the night but by Saturday morning it was mostly sunny. While I was out loading the Jeep I talked to the guys parked behind us. Turns out they were there last fall and were the guys I spoke to about their Toyo tires when I was contemplaing them. The group of friends drive a Country Coach Allure, a Monaco Windsor and a mid-door Alpine 40-footer. All also towing Jeeps.
As we jumped on the interstate and headed west the Reef area of the San Rafael Swell really jumped out as the sun was hitting it.
After driving about 45-miles west to the Moore exit, we were going to run Copper Globe Mine trail and just as we dropped down into Justensen's Flats to air down, we saw a wild horse standing there watching us. We have only ran this trail two times previously and both times have been able to see the herd of wild horses that roam the area.
Airing down for the trail. The wife kept saying she hoped to see the horses but there was a group of five side by sides that headed out just ahead of us and as noisy as those damn things are my hopes were not high that we'd see the horses.
We just lumbered along and trying to let the group of side by sides get well ahead of us. I could tell by the turns they were traveling at a much higher rate of speed than we were. We stopped quite a bit to take pictures and look around, especially down into the canyon below. There was a lot of evidence of the heavy rains from the day before. I chose this trail because I remembered it being quite sandy and figured the sand would be the first to dry out and therefore be less muddy than many of the other trails in the area.
Stay tuned for more pictures....
Looking down into the valley with the monuments and red rock walls in the distance.
The canyon that the Green River has cut through the valley below is spectacular and makes for some great pictures. Personally, I don't think the Grand Canyon has anything on this part of the country. I'll take this view any day of the week. Sure makes a person feel small by comparison.
As we worked out way back towards town after putting on a couple hundred miles of exploring we decided to give the local food truck a try. We have talked to people who make this a stop whenever they are in the area and have read the reviews but in the four years we've been going to the Swell, we have yet to try this place. It is an old gas station that has been converted with tables inside and the food truck outside. It doesn't look like much, but in our travels, we have found those are the best places.
We ordered and then headed back to the coach to eat as it was still quite cold outside.
The food was delicious and did not disappoint.
It rained off and on throughout the night but by Saturday morning it was mostly sunny. While I was out loading the Jeep I talked to the guys parked behind us. Turns out they were there last fall and were the guys I spoke to about their Toyo tires when I was contemplaing them. The group of friends drive a Country Coach Allure, a Monaco Windsor and a mid-door Alpine 40-footer. All also towing Jeeps.
As we jumped on the interstate and headed west the Reef area of the San Rafael Swell really jumped out as the sun was hitting it.
After driving about 45-miles west to the Moore exit, we were going to run Copper Globe Mine trail and just as we dropped down into Justensen's Flats to air down, we saw a wild horse standing there watching us. We have only ran this trail two times previously and both times have been able to see the herd of wild horses that roam the area.
Airing down for the trail. The wife kept saying she hoped to see the horses but there was a group of five side by sides that headed out just ahead of us and as noisy as those damn things are my hopes were not high that we'd see the horses.
We just lumbered along and trying to let the group of side by sides get well ahead of us. I could tell by the turns they were traveling at a much higher rate of speed than we were. We stopped quite a bit to take pictures and look around, especially down into the canyon below. There was a lot of evidence of the heavy rains from the day before. I chose this trail because I remembered it being quite sandy and figured the sand would be the first to dry out and therefore be less muddy than many of the other trails in the area.
Stay tuned for more pictures....
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Continuing on.
As we approached the spur trail leading to Copper Globe Mine I could see we weren't fortunate to have the place to ourselves. We saw the heavy torn up tracks from the side by sides where they turned off the main trail and also headed towards the mine.
We passed them coming out as we got to the mine itself. We decided to get out and walk around and let those noisy things get away from us.
The mine still has some standing structures as well as the remnants of the smelter and a lot of unused wood stacked along the side of the mine. The mine sits at the base of this beautiful canyon wall.
It's almost kind of like an alcove back in where the mine entrance is located.
As we left the mine and rejoined the main trail we opted to take another spur trail off the main in search of another quiet spot for lunch and let the side by sides get well ahead of us. As we approached the entrance of Cat Canyon, I didn't want to be around them as that is where we usually see a wild horse or a few.
We found another breathtaking spot for lunch, this actually looks down into Red's Canyon, which is another trail we like to take but figured it would be a bit too muddy after the heavy rains. I think we chose well.
Looking down into Red's Canyon.
We had just left our lunch spot and were about a quarter mile from the main trail when we saw a couple horses watching us.
We drove another half mile or so and we saw another 9 or ten coming out from the trees. We were just idling along and they didn't seem to be bothered by us.
Just as we turned off the small two-track we were on and hit the main trail again, the group of side by sides came ripping along up to us. They stopped and asked if we knew where the trail ended and wondered if it circled back around to where we aired down, and where they parked their trucks/trailers. I informed them that it did not wind back around to the same exit off the interstate and if you followed the canyon it connected with I-70 about 6 miles further west than where they parked. They opted to head back to where they parked and we headed northwest along the trail and towards Cat Canyon. Before we parted way, I asked them if they saw the couple small herds of wild horses and they said that they had not seen them and asked where they were so they could look for them. I pointed out where they were but I would bet they never saw them because I think they scared them the first time they went past which is why we were able to see them as we let the group get well ahead of us.
After we left the group, we saw where they turned around and realized we were the first set of tracks in Cat Canyon since the heavy rains the day before. The silt and debris that had been washed down the canyon was evident. I worried about any wash outs or heavier rocks may have blocked the canyon further down, but we never did see anything too terrible to pass. Some areas were washed out but only a foot or so deep and fortunately, nothing large as far as rocks or boulders were blocking the narrow canyon.
As we cleared the canyon and hit the main dirt road we did see a large washout that took part of the road. This road actually leads down to Capitol Reef NP in one direction (south) or north it connects back up with I-70. This looked a little too gooey for me to want to try and cross, especially seeing as how we were alone on the trail so we turned around here and headed for I-70.
Stay tuned for a few more pictures.
As we approached the spur trail leading to Copper Globe Mine I could see we weren't fortunate to have the place to ourselves. We saw the heavy torn up tracks from the side by sides where they turned off the main trail and also headed towards the mine.
We passed them coming out as we got to the mine itself. We decided to get out and walk around and let those noisy things get away from us.
The mine still has some standing structures as well as the remnants of the smelter and a lot of unused wood stacked along the side of the mine. The mine sits at the base of this beautiful canyon wall.
It's almost kind of like an alcove back in where the mine entrance is located.
As we left the mine and rejoined the main trail we opted to take another spur trail off the main in search of another quiet spot for lunch and let the side by sides get well ahead of us. As we approached the entrance of Cat Canyon, I didn't want to be around them as that is where we usually see a wild horse or a few.
We found another breathtaking spot for lunch, this actually looks down into Red's Canyon, which is another trail we like to take but figured it would be a bit too muddy after the heavy rains. I think we chose well.
Looking down into Red's Canyon.
We had just left our lunch spot and were about a quarter mile from the main trail when we saw a couple horses watching us.
We drove another half mile or so and we saw another 9 or ten coming out from the trees. We were just idling along and they didn't seem to be bothered by us.
Just as we turned off the small two-track we were on and hit the main trail again, the group of side by sides came ripping along up to us. They stopped and asked if we knew where the trail ended and wondered if it circled back around to where we aired down, and where they parked their trucks/trailers. I informed them that it did not wind back around to the same exit off the interstate and if you followed the canyon it connected with I-70 about 6 miles further west than where they parked. They opted to head back to where they parked and we headed northwest along the trail and towards Cat Canyon. Before we parted way, I asked them if they saw the couple small herds of wild horses and they said that they had not seen them and asked where they were so they could look for them. I pointed out where they were but I would bet they never saw them because I think they scared them the first time they went past which is why we were able to see them as we let the group get well ahead of us.
After we left the group, we saw where they turned around and realized we were the first set of tracks in Cat Canyon since the heavy rains the day before. The silt and debris that had been washed down the canyon was evident. I worried about any wash outs or heavier rocks may have blocked the canyon further down, but we never did see anything too terrible to pass. Some areas were washed out but only a foot or so deep and fortunately, nothing large as far as rocks or boulders were blocking the narrow canyon.
As we cleared the canyon and hit the main dirt road we did see a large washout that took part of the road. This road actually leads down to Capitol Reef NP in one direction (south) or north it connects back up with I-70. This looked a little too gooey for me to want to try and cross, especially seeing as how we were alone on the trail so we turned around here and headed for I-70.
Stay tuned for a few more pictures.
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Continuing on with the last of the pictures from our trip to central Utah last week.
Just as we climbed out of the canyon the area opened up to the vastness that keeps drawing us back here.
Looking directly north as we left the canyon, you can see I-70 off in the distance, just above the red rock and at the base of the cliff walls.
Yesterday morning we again awoke to some rain. We sat and drank some coffee before hitting the road and heading home. It stopped raining just long enough for me to disconnect the coach's water and shore power and hook up the Jeep. As we left town on the two-lane highway headed for the interstate, we could see blue skies in one direction and another storm the other. Guess which way we were headed.
Yep, directly into the storm.
It rained hard at times for the first 150- miles or so of the drive home, even started to snow as we crested Soldier's Summit.
We stopped in Springville, UT to take on fuel and noticed the snow-covered mountains that we had just came out of.
It was a cold drive home with outside temps starting at 50 when we left Green River, UT and dropped to 39 degrees going over Soldier's Summit and back to 50~ish while fueling up. We arrived home and found it a pleasant 62-degrees.
Now the work begins cleaning the coach.
Just as we climbed out of the canyon the area opened up to the vastness that keeps drawing us back here.
Looking directly north as we left the canyon, you can see I-70 off in the distance, just above the red rock and at the base of the cliff walls.
Yesterday morning we again awoke to some rain. We sat and drank some coffee before hitting the road and heading home. It stopped raining just long enough for me to disconnect the coach's water and shore power and hook up the Jeep. As we left town on the two-lane highway headed for the interstate, we could see blue skies in one direction and another storm the other. Guess which way we were headed.
Yep, directly into the storm.
It rained hard at times for the first 150- miles or so of the drive home, even started to snow as we crested Soldier's Summit.
We stopped in Springville, UT to take on fuel and noticed the snow-covered mountains that we had just came out of.
It was a cold drive home with outside temps starting at 50 when we left Green River, UT and dropped to 39 degrees going over Soldier's Summit and back to 50~ish while fueling up. We arrived home and found it a pleasant 62-degrees.
Now the work begins cleaning the coach.
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Upon arriving home the work begins on cleaning the coach.
This is a major cleaning for two reasons, first, due to the weather and road conditions we just drove through and secondly, because it was the last trip of the season and time to put the ole' girl to bed for the winter.
Engine bay opened up, as well as battery compartment, fuel tank compartment and generator compartment. Anything exposed to road spray will get pressure washed prior to a hand washing and chamoising.
Tow bar extended out, debris netting opened up and everything pressure washed.
The debris on the ground is why I go through this extent after driving on wet roads.
Generator bay washed.
Roof was also washed before parking for the winter.
And everything gets hand dried with a chamois for a spot free "storage shine".
Starting at the top and working my way down the sidewalls.
Skylight still looks like new.
Half of one side completed.
Now the entire street side of the coach is finished.
Stay tuned for a few more.
This is a major cleaning for two reasons, first, due to the weather and road conditions we just drove through and secondly, because it was the last trip of the season and time to put the ole' girl to bed for the winter.
Engine bay opened up, as well as battery compartment, fuel tank compartment and generator compartment. Anything exposed to road spray will get pressure washed prior to a hand washing and chamoising.
Tow bar extended out, debris netting opened up and everything pressure washed.
The debris on the ground is why I go through this extent after driving on wet roads.
Generator bay washed.
Roof was also washed before parking for the winter.
And everything gets hand dried with a chamois for a spot free "storage shine".
Starting at the top and working my way down the sidewalls.
Skylight still looks like new.
Half of one side completed.
Now the entire street side of the coach is finished.
Stay tuned for a few more.
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zmotorsports
ALLIANCE MEMBER
Final pictures of the season finale cleaning job.
Tires/wheels shined up nicely with just a hand wash and chamois to dry. The polish job they got in the spring has held up well this year.
Moving on to the curb side of the coach to repeat the process.
Working my way towards the rear of the coach.
It's not a "show coach" or "show job" as far as paint, but it's holding up well. Nothing like what you'd find on a Newell or Prevost, but I'm pleased with it and proud of the condition I've been able to keep the coach in.
Backed into her home and last time she'll see daylight for a few months.
I think she looks pretty good for a 22+ year old coach with 145k miles on the clock.
Thanks for looking.
Tires/wheels shined up nicely with just a hand wash and chamois to dry. The polish job they got in the spring has held up well this year.
Moving on to the curb side of the coach to repeat the process.
Working my way towards the rear of the coach.
It's not a "show coach" or "show job" as far as paint, but it's holding up well. Nothing like what you'd find on a Newell or Prevost, but I'm pleased with it and proud of the condition I've been able to keep the coach in.
Backed into her home and last time she'll see daylight for a few months.
I think she looks pretty good for a 22+ year old coach with 145k miles on the clock.
Thanks for looking.
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gearhead1960
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@zmotorsports Mike, as usual your pictures are great! We were in Utah in June and opted for Dead Horse State Park instead of Canyonlands. The scenery is absolutely stunning there and is very similar to Canyonlands. We also hit Goblin Valley State Park...have you ever been to that one with the Hoodoos? Very cool.... We also did an off-road tour in Capital Reef NPS that got us to the Cathedral Valley where we got to see the Temples of the Sun, Moon, and Stars...which were fabulous.....
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zmotorsports
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Thank you.
Yes, been to Goblin Valley multiple times in our travels. My son wanted to see it when he was younger because of some scenes in Galaxy Quest being filmed there. Then we went back with in-laws a couple times.
One of the off-road trails that we run in the Swell, Temple Mountain, actually comes out to Highway 24 directly across the road from the entrance to Goblin Valley. A couple of years ago after running that trail we crossed over the road and wandered around Goblin Valley before heading back to camp.
If you are familiar with Cathedral Valley Drive, then at the eastern end of the trail, there is a spur that takes off of it and heads north. It is a small unmarked 2-track but ends up at an overlook that is just above Hidden Splendor trail in San Rafael Swell area. We explored it a last year after realizing we were so close to the Swell when we were in Capitol Reef area.
Next time you are in the Capital Reef area, take a day drive over towards Boulder and Escalante area and there is a trail over there called Hell's Backbone. It's a great trail. I think I showed some pictures of it further back in my thread from about a year or so ago. At the very top of the trail there is a small narrow bridge that crosses over between the two canyon walls that was built by the CCC and is worth the trip to see, an experience driving over it with a thousand plus feet of nothing below you.
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zmotorsports
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Another cool story, in addition to running into the group of guys whom we met last year in the three coaches parked right behind us at camp.
While the wife and I were just about off the Eva Conover trail and nearing I-70 with the storm chasing us, we ran across three Toyota Lancruisers coming towards us and even though we had the right of way as we were going uphill, we had a wide spot near us so we pulled off to let them pass us. There were three of them.
As the lead one was approaching us, I didn't see anyone driving. As they got up alongside us, I realized it was a RHD (Right Hand Drive) Landcruiser, which also was powered by a turbo diesel. I'm not as well versed in Toyota's but by looking at the body style I would say mid to late 80's maybe. Maybe as late as early 90's but not much more. The guy stopped and asked us what direction we came from and how the trail was. I told him it was good but he better keep an eye on that storm and I wouldn't drop down into that wash until is passes.
The three of them were overlanding and he said he thinks they will camp up top tonight, which I agreed would be a good idea.
He thanked me for pulling off and he proceeded on. The next guy was in a late 90's or so Landcruiser outfitted with a rooftop tent and then the third and last Toyota in the group was another turbo diesel RHD Landcruiser with a rooftop tent. After they passed I just told the wife that was sooooo freakin' cool. She didn't understand. I explained I thought the RHD turbo diesel Landcruisers would be a cool vehicle. She said cooler than our Jeep? I don't know about that, I just thought they were unique and rare and therefore thought they were cool to see out on the trail.
It's interesting to see some of the odd and different vehicles that we've been fortunate to see out on the trails. Those were the only three vehicles we had seen on the trail all day, other than a few camping at the Wedge and they were worth seeing.
While the wife and I were just about off the Eva Conover trail and nearing I-70 with the storm chasing us, we ran across three Toyota Lancruisers coming towards us and even though we had the right of way as we were going uphill, we had a wide spot near us so we pulled off to let them pass us. There were three of them.
As the lead one was approaching us, I didn't see anyone driving. As they got up alongside us, I realized it was a RHD (Right Hand Drive) Landcruiser, which also was powered by a turbo diesel. I'm not as well versed in Toyota's but by looking at the body style I would say mid to late 80's maybe. Maybe as late as early 90's but not much more. The guy stopped and asked us what direction we came from and how the trail was. I told him it was good but he better keep an eye on that storm and I wouldn't drop down into that wash until is passes.
The three of them were overlanding and he said he thinks they will camp up top tonight, which I agreed would be a good idea.
He thanked me for pulling off and he proceeded on. The next guy was in a late 90's or so Landcruiser outfitted with a rooftop tent and then the third and last Toyota in the group was another turbo diesel RHD Landcruiser with a rooftop tent. After they passed I just told the wife that was sooooo freakin' cool. She didn't understand. I explained I thought the RHD turbo diesel Landcruisers would be a cool vehicle. She said cooler than our Jeep? I don't know about that, I just thought they were unique and rare and therefore thought they were cool to see out on the trail.
It's interesting to see some of the odd and different vehicles that we've been fortunate to see out on the trails. Those were the only three vehicles we had seen on the trail all day, other than a few camping at the Wedge and they were worth seeing.
SilverJimmy
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FJ80 are very cool and capable offroad machines. My wife and I have a 92 Crusher with 295k on the clock. It drives nice, four wheels awesome, doesn’t squeak or have any rattles, A/C blows nice and cold, and can even haul 6 adults comfortably. The only thing it does poorly is gas mileage, only manages around 12 mpg! The diesel version is very cool, I‘ve seen a couple at the OffRoad Expo that is held here in Flagstaff but they are kinda pricey.