So I made some wall cabinets… and some shelves. And while I’m super happy with the end product, I’m not all that proud of the video. It’s one of those things where I was just too focused on the build to consider the “story line” while I was shooting. In any case, I didn’t want all that footage to go to waste so I edited the video anyhow. I hope ya enjoy it.
Beautiful work! Very impressed, looks like you used just about every power tool you had to do it too lol.
I'd love to try and make some of my own cabinets one day after seeing the kind of junk quality that can be purchased, it was very enlightening to see you do it.
I'd love to try and make some of my own cabinets one day after seeing the kind of junk quality that can be purchased, it was very enlightening to see you do it.
Mikkeli
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Nice cabinets and that video is really good also, you should be proud of it!
That turned out pretty decent and I enjoyed watching the video
I would have liked to have seen you use that LR32 system to cut the 'back' set of holes for the shelf pins
Or you could just throw that thing in the trash (I really regret buying it) and use a simple shelf drilling system like this one from Lee Valley
I would have liked to have seen you use that LR32 system to cut the 'back' set of holes for the shelf pins
Or you could just throw that thing in the trash (I really regret buying it) and use a simple shelf drilling system like this one from Lee Valley
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That turned out pretty decent and I enjoyed watching the video
I would have liked to have seen you use that LR32 system to cut the 'back' set of holes for the shelf pins
Or you could just throw that thing in the trash (I really regret buying it) and use a simple shelf drilling system like this one from Lee Valley
I like it, but ONLY if I’m doing a ton of cabinet sides in a production line of sorts.
ClearWaterMS
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the cabinets turned out nice. I really like the peg board, the over sized pegs has a very unique look that I like a lot.
a few questions:
1. If you were going to laminate the wood, why not just use brad nails and glue for the backboard instead of buying a new tool?
2. How did you keep the dust managed? The finish on your cars looks really nice and the dust gets EVERYWHERE that takes forever to keep clean
3. For the smaller pieces (after you broke down the full sheet) why not use a table saw where you can set the fence once and run boards through multiple times ensuring the exact same size.
a few questions:
1. If you were going to laminate the wood, why not just use brad nails and glue for the backboard instead of buying a new tool?
2. How did you keep the dust managed? The finish on your cars looks really nice and the dust gets EVERYWHERE that takes forever to keep clean
3. For the smaller pieces (after you broke down the full sheet) why not use a table saw where you can set the fence once and run boards through multiple times ensuring the exact same size.
OP
1. Uhhhh... yeah... that's a good point. I certainly could have done that. Damnit. I'm new to woodworking and don't always think everything through as well as I should.
2. So dust is a real problem. And really, that's why I overpaid for so many of my Festool branded tools. All of them have really good dust collection and when I stick to those, I don't have to fight the dust battle very hard at all.
3. I don't have a proper dust collector for the table saw... I use it when I absolutely have to, but try to take it outside when I do... and the weather here has been pretty ******, so I tried to stay away from the table saw on this project.
That being said, I'm working on a 1953 Unisaw right now... and part of that project is gonna be trying to get half way decent dust collection out of it. I do very much want to be able to use the table saw more just for consistency's sake.
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pst496
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Ryan, would really like to see more youtube content come from you. Whether it be garage journal related or gear, jalopy, dogfight or ford barn related
stsmytherie
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I liked this video Ryan. The how to is covered well elsewhere. The thinking and problem solving are not. It's honest and helpful.
Cabinets and shelves came out great for your first try.
Cabinets and shelves came out great for your first try.
Stuart in MN
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The cabinets look good, and personally I think your video production was well done too. I don't know if you follow him, but I saw some hints of Frank Howarth's videos in there.
I don't know if you follow him, but I saw some hints of Frank Howarth's videos in there.
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The cabinets look good, and personally I think your video production was well done too.
Yeah, I follow Frank... He's amazing... and he's a big reason I got into wood working.
kaferfahrer
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Looks awesome. very nice work and I like the approach.
Just one thing that caught my eye, and really not my business, but to fall in line with the clean lines of your cabinets, next time you are in Home Depot or similar, consider grabbing some screwless coverplates for your electrical outlets- It will look nice, clean and modern
Just one thing that caught my eye, and really not my business, but to fall in line with the clean lines of your cabinets, next time you are in Home Depot or similar, consider grabbing some screwless coverplates for your electrical outlets- It will look nice, clean and modern
Couple things I noticed,
Vans makes pants?
Never place your fingers inline with the spinning blade when using a table saw!
I liked it, you did a great job and your attention to detail is obvious. You have some very nice tools and great looking shop.
Your next wood project should be a work bench? I think you've earned a step up from foam on saw horses! lol!
Vans makes pants?
Never place your fingers inline with the spinning blade when using a table saw!
I liked it, you did a great job and your attention to detail is obvious. You have some very nice tools and great looking shop.
Your next wood project should be a work bench? I think you've earned a step up from foam on saw horses! lol!
Cactus1
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Nice job pal! Years ago when I was building the kitchen at my last house I made a quick and dirty shelf drilling jig out of a piece of pegboard with a moveable fence and a little hardwood guide to drill the holes straight with a brad point bit. The holes are in increments of 1" so a little blue tape over the ones you don't want to drill and you're off to the races. Works a treat!
Jealous of that old Unisaw. I've lusted after one forever but I guess I'll stick with my '55 Craftsman at this point...
Jealous of that old Unisaw. I've lusted after one forever but I guess I'll stick with my '55 Craftsman at this point...
trainer
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For shelf pin holes, I use an auxiliary table on my drill press with a fence that has marks laid out at 1" intervals.
Using a square, lay out a reference line across the workpiece and just drill, advance to the next mark and repeat.
You really need to use eye protection around saws and routers though.
Using a square, lay out a reference line across the workpiece and just drill, advance to the next mark and repeat.
You really need to use eye protection around saws and routers though.
tboy
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Thanks for the video, I enjoyed watching it, and don't want to detract from the amazing work you did. Honestly I was a little disappointed to watch you use what was probably several thousand dollars worth of tools. I hope to get there someday, but today is not that day!
Does anybody know where I can get some good instruction on cabinet making with basic tools and skills? I have a table saw, kreg rip fence, kreg jig, and nailers. I've seen lilscorpian build some awesome stuff with those type tools (I think, but he also has a **** ton of festool though).
Does anybody know where I can get some good instruction on cabinet making with basic tools and skills? I have a table saw, kreg rip fence, kreg jig, and nailers. I've seen lilscorpian build some awesome stuff with those type tools (I think, but he also has a **** ton of festool though).
joeysh03
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Search Ana White on Pinterest. She builds everything with HD lumber and pocket holes
stsmytherie
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Don't despair. I went for a loooong time with nothing better than a circular saw, a corded drill, a trim router, and a hand saw miter box.
It takes a little extra planning sometimes and a few extra steps to get from A to B, but it's doable. People built stuff for eons with simple hand tools.
That said, getting my first track saw (Makita) was a true eye opener. Highly recommended.
It takes a little extra planning sometimes and a few extra steps to get from A to B, but it's doable. People built stuff for eons with simple hand tools.
That said, getting my first track saw (Makita) was a true eye opener. Highly recommended.
Voi
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Enjoyed the video. Was this the Menards Baltic birch that comes in 4x8 sheets? I see my local Menards has this as special order only now.
I have a project where the regular 5x5 sheets of the real stuff won't work and am trying to decide whether to order the Menards stuff or order Appleply or Europly.
Good luck with the Unisaw project. I have a 1947 basket case that I'm having a hard time deciding what to do with.
I have a project where the regular 5x5 sheets of the real stuff won't work and am trying to decide whether to order the Menards stuff or order Appleply or Europly.
Good luck with the Unisaw project. I have a 1947 basket case that I'm having a hard time deciding what to do with.
OP
Dude... You have everything you need. Ignore all of my fancy stupid tools. You can do everything I did with what you have. The only advantage I have is in dust control.
I used 4x8 sheets of baltic birch from my local lumberyard. The prices on this stuff have almost doubled in my area in the past year, but I love it for exposed ply projects like this.
Voi
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Interesting. What price point is it at currently?
Besides the 5x5 stuff I'm only familiar with Appleply, Europly and the Menards product.
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Bob Hall
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Good job Ryan:
On the woodworking ( you are certainly not a novice)
On the filming ( I don't know squat about filming but I know what I like)
On showing how blasted good the Festool dust collection is. (I can't believe you do wood working right beside the beautiful custom car and don't get it covered with dust)
On resisting the use of MDF/Particle board/saw dust and glue ****.
I promise that you will love the Unisaw.
On the woodworking ( you are certainly not a novice)
On the filming ( I don't know squat about filming but I know what I like)
On showing how blasted good the Festool dust collection is. (I can't believe you do wood working right beside the beautiful custom car and don't get it covered with dust)
On resisting the use of MDF/Particle board/saw dust and glue ****.
I promise that you will love the Unisaw.
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Stuart in MN
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True Baltic Birch comes in 5' x 5', 4' x 8' (rarely) and 5' x 10' sheets, the most common size is 5' x 5' (metric, 1525 mm x 1525 mm)
Domestic Birch plywood on the other other hand comes in 4' x 8' and 4' x 10' (rarely) sheets and is generally available in most lumber yards and some big box stores.
Nice job BTW, I have thought about the Festool package, but it's just too rich for me.
I've never found true Baltic Birch plywood anywhere but a plywood or dedicated sheets good distributor. Big Box and local stores typically don't understand what it is. That being said, domestic Birch plywood is fine for many applications, actually better than many other hardwood plywoods.. One way to tell what you are using is to count the ply's:
Baltic Birch is:
1525 mm x 1525 mm
3 mm ≈ 1/8″ (3 plies)
6 mm ≈ 1/4″ (5 plies)
9 mm ≈ 3/8″ (7 plies)
12 mm ≈ 1/2″ (9 plies)
18 mm ≈ 3/4″ (13 plies)
Appleply is possibly my most favorite plywood, very tough, dimensionally stable and beautiful when given a clear finish. Both Baltic Birch and appleply are great for jig's and fixture's.
Domestic Birch plywood on the other other hand comes in 4' x 8' and 4' x 10' (rarely) sheets and is generally available in most lumber yards and some big box stores.
Nice job BTW, I have thought about the Festool package, but it's just too rich for me.
I've never found true Baltic Birch plywood anywhere but a plywood or dedicated sheets good distributor. Big Box and local stores typically don't understand what it is. That being said, domestic Birch plywood is fine for many applications, actually better than many other hardwood plywoods.. One way to tell what you are using is to count the ply's:
Baltic Birch is:
1525 mm x 1525 mm
3 mm ≈ 1/8″ (3 plies)
6 mm ≈ 1/4″ (5 plies)
9 mm ≈ 3/8″ (7 plies)
12 mm ≈ 1/2″ (9 plies)
18 mm ≈ 3/4″ (13 plies)
Appleply is possibly my most favorite plywood, very tough, dimensionally stable and beautiful when given a clear finish. Both Baltic Birch and appleply are great for jig's and fixture's.
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Voi
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Do I dare ask what a full sheet of 3/4" Appleply is selling for nowadays? I didn't see a price for a full sheet on their website.
I believe I've only seen it in person once at a children's museum somewhere. Really nice stuff.
I want to build a Murphy Bed for our guest room and want to do exposed edge ply. I could face glue the 1/2" true Baltic birch to get my longer than 60" panels but then I'll have exposed seams and more work. Just takes away from the planned simplicity of the project.
Good job. I like the recessed doors.
Seeing the Festool stuff in action really gets me wanting. The dust collection appears to be amazing. But, as a friend of mine used to say about things... "That ain't no cheap date". If I was starting my collection from scratch....
Track Saw would probably be the best bang for the buck for me.
That Unisaw is a beauty too.
Seeing the Festool stuff in action really gets me wanting. The dust collection appears to be amazing. But, as a friend of mine used to say about things... "That ain't no cheap date". If I was starting my collection from scratch....
Track Saw would probably be the best bang for the buck for me.
That Unisaw is a beauty too.
Locker537
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Looks great to me! Really adds some character and function to the kitchen.
Like others have said, seeing you depend on the dust collection next to your beautiful cars makes me want to invest in it. I've been doing projects in my two car garage with a tarp hung to contain most of the mess. Works OK, but my car certainly has fine dust on it.
Like others have said, seeing you depend on the dust collection next to your beautiful cars makes me want to invest in it. I've been doing projects in my two car garage with a tarp hung to contain most of the mess. Works OK, but my car certainly has fine dust on it.
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Yeah, we have a couple of pretty decent lumber yards here in Austin. However, real baltic birch has been really hard to get in the past few months. No idea why... But when they do have it in stock, they are charging a premium for it.
I only get 4x8 as 5x5 is hard to handle and often times I need the length.
In any case, I use it simply because I like the exposed edge look... and baltic ***** has a great ply profile.
I think just about everything Festool sells is grossly over-priced. And once you get a few foundation pieces like the track saw, the dust collector, and maybe a sander, you feel locked into their eco-system.
Festool likes to stick the knife in you and twist it.
All that being said, I'd still buy most everything I have again simply because dust control is so important to me. Looking back at this project, the only step that put any dust in my shop at all was trimming the laminate with my little bosch router. Otherwise, this would have been an absolutely dust free project.
In my opinion, the only reason anyone should ever consider Festool stuff is dust control. If that's not a top priority for you, there's much better value with other brands. For instance, I really like the Bosch stuff that I have... It's made every bit as well as Festool and performs like it should at prolly half the cost of Festool... it just doesn't have the same level of dust control.
So, priorities I guess...
Nice job -- including the video.
Is that the Festool table -- just on top of another shop made base?
A contract is keeping me away from my studio most of the winter -- I'm just about to order a bunch of Festool because I can't have dust. I'm going to build out part of the basement at the house while I'm here. That router setup is slick.
Also -- Are you using a type of rigid insulation for your temp cutting top?
Is that the Festool table -- just on top of another shop made base?
A contract is keeping me away from my studio most of the winter -- I'm just about to order a bunch of Festool because I can't have dust. I'm going to build out part of the basement at the house while I'm here. That router setup is slick.
Also -- Are you using a type of rigid insulation for your temp cutting top?
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You can read about the MFT table base I built here:
https://www.garagejournal.com/2017/06/the-systainer-cart/
And yeah, it's just a 4x8 sheet of rigid insulation. I use it to break down plywood and avoid tear out.
The cabinets looks good and the pegboard shelf, I've never seen that before. Pretty cool idea.
OP
Thanks man... I'm super happy with it...
I really don't know what I'm doing. I'm scared shitless of the table saw, I get glue everywhere, sometimes I forget the difference between a rip and a cross cut, I'm only just now figuring out how to cut to a line, and I have to go really slow to avoid screwing EVERYTHING up...
BUT, I'm having a lot of fun learning.
Very nice -- explains much. Reinforces my idea of getting a bunch of Festool. How did you choose? I took a woodworking class and used the Festool sander attached to the vac by way of a boom -- very nice. I need a sander and Vac. I'm going to order the table/domino/tracksaw ... the router now that I see it. Not sure if I need the bevel saw. What made your decisions?
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I bought a whole bunch of festool all at once. Spent a ton of money... If I had it to do over again, I'd prolly just start with this:
1. Track saw (and get the long 8' track for ripping full sheets of plywood)
2. Sander
3. Domino
4. Vac
I wouldn't buy the MFT... I'd just build my own version of it.
Thanks -- I'm in one of those situations: Don't have a table to build a table.
May just order the miter saw and table as well. I have a big 12" Dewalt at my studio .. and while I like my small old original 8.5 Hitachi -- it's the dust. I can't have the dust.
Don't be scared of it but do respect it. Some of the basic rules I remember from high school Industrial Arts class. . .
Keep you fingers out of the line of the blade (yeah pretty smart thinking, I know.)
Stand to one side of the blade, if you get a kick back, you're less likely to get tagged with flying piece of wood, including a bag tag.
When ripping a piece of wood less than 4" wide, use push sticks. You can buy them (HF plastic ones $2ea) or make you own. Just remember to have rounded ends where you're holding.
When you're changing blades, unplug the saw.
