2024 Garage Sale Thread (13th Annual)

[shanny19]

You guys have way better ReStore in your respective areas than we do in SD. We have to search through crappy chandeliers, hollow core doors, and broken pavers just to find an occasional Stanley screwdriver.

Mine is the exact same way, I think it’s purely a factor of a tool-aware individual skimming what comes in. Has to be.

 

[gleman]

Mine is the exact same way, I think it’s purely a factor of a tool-aware individual skimming what comes in. Has to be.

I think it's mostly area and then management of the store.

The one I go to in FL has nice furniture, loading docks, pickup and delivery vans, discount paint and new mattress and beds.

The one in MI has a dirt parking lot and meager offerings but a lot of tools.

 

[SC Fly Guy]

You guys have way better ReStore in your respective areas than we do in SD. We have to search through crappy chandeliers, hollow core doors, and broken pavers just to find an occasional Stanley screwdriver.

@gleman *****
@jeffmoss26 *****

Mine is the exact same way, I think it’s purely a factor of a tool-aware individual skimming what comes in. Has to be.

I think it's mostly area and then management of the store.

The one I go to in FL has nice furniture, loading docks, pickup and delivery vans, discount paint and new mattress and beds.

The one in MI has a dirt parking lot and meager offerings but a lot of tools.

+3 to the above. My ReStore store rarely has anything worthwhile, although I don’t get by there frequently. My sources tell me that the good stuff gets skimmed away, but that seems like a fair perk for the volunteers!!

Congrats on the good finds!!

 

[Jacobs976]

Got my first sale of the year done. I think it went well. Total was $10 plus an extra 16 minutes of drive time added to a 5 hour round trip.

First off the big ticket item! A brand new 1987 "Impactor"! Doesn't have any real value but it's a mint condition joke tool(the advert for the Princess Auto version went around because they used a hand crank drill).


Second, the hammer I drove out for. It'll need a good cleaning and a new handle but I like hammers.

Third, a hoe. Didn't have one so I grabbed it. Was collecting the various styles of pick handle tools before.
(Pic won't upload but it's the pickaxe handle type without the pickaxe or axe end, probably 1910-1950s)

Lastly, the misc lot(ignore the pliers in left corner). Didn't need any of it but it's good to have an extra chain clamp and a ratcheting tap wrench. Rusty heel dolly might clean up well or need re-faced but it's nice to have a spare too. Mystery punch thing and ratcheting screwdriver (have some bits for it already) were just oddballs I wanted to research.

 

[d42jeep]

Found only one promising sale in Concord, CA. There was kind of a mix of US made Craftsman and some older tools. I picked up a metric Craftsman combo set which should pay for the rest of the tools when I flip it.
Craftsman tools

Pexto monkey wrench (P. S. & W. Co. Marked)




Wakefield adjustable wrench
Wells & Son wood handled Stillson pipe wrench.
Mac 10mm combo wrench
Diamond Pattern price line S-K spark plug socket.
Walworth 8” pipe wrench made in 1953.
-Don

 

[Jacobs976]

Update to my last post. Also got 4 free nails with the hammer.

Honestly one of the most difficult handle extractions I've done. Handle was tighter than I had imagined so it didn't budge with a punch and hammer. Drilled out reliefs and it still didn't budge. Had to knock out parts of the grain till the nails budged then pull them and finally with 3/4 of the grain removed the rest of the handle came out with a punch, a 4lb sledge, and more force than I wanted to use.

Looks like the thing's older than I thought though. Haven't seen nails used as wedges other than a wrought iron pickaxe I couldn't get a date off of.

 

[Old Radar]

Small haul today, but my first since mid-January--so I'm happy!
Everything was from the estate of a former Chief Master Sargent (E-9) Instructor/Evaluator Boom Operator, on KC-135 Stratotankers.
Being close to my heart, I snatched up the SAC cap as soon as I saw it and was surprised to find it unused and with the original $22.99 price tag and the holographic "Officially Licensed Product" sticker still on it. The ES price was $4. Same price for the enameled SAC shield on a leather thong.



However, the first thing I picked up was the Dresser-era S-K Tools socket box. It was filled with a wrench-turner's potpourri of unrelated sockets and drive tools. Only the five 3/8 drive metric sockets in the tray belong to the set. No other S-K tools were to be had--and I looked! Everything else was 1/4 drive and included the Proto extension, Williams M-110 driver, Husky CM50 hinge handle and two CM43 rats. The socket groups are 5 Snap-on, 5 Thorsen, 4 Bonney, 3 Taiwanese, and orphans from Husky, Giller, CM, New Britain and Williams. The Williams is 9/32 drive. The 24-page S-K Pocket Catalog dated 1970, was in the box, under the plastic tray. All that was $8.
The Herbrand J-8 Ratch-A-Daptor (Pat. Pend) was another buck.
Last but not least, is the Proto (Mfd) 370 All-Angle Drill with a no-name screwdriver bit in the chuck. $5.

 

[Chrome Vanadium Cody]

My finds at a mid week sale unintentionally had a yellow theme. 2x Hit Japan ratcheting screwdrivers- got these because they are meant for double sided bits so Chapman bits fit in them nicely. Starrett 1/2” ball anvil micrometer, works well and zeros out correctly but need to check with some gage blocks. Nicholson USA file with minimal use. Little Utica flush cutters, Brown & Sharpe thread pitch gauge, Proto 7/16” combo wrench, unused Rite in the Rain notebook. This is the brand I usually use for taking notes working around fluids so it’s nice to get one basically free. Total price: $18


Then a local second hand store had this Carter Carburetor box for $8. The rust is a little thick for my liking and I’m not sure what I’ll use it for but it was too cool to pass up. I’m a fan of wood organizer inserts in metal toolboxes.

 

[JohnDeere]

Small haul today, but my first since mid-January--so I'm happy!
Everything was from the estate of a former Chief Master Sargent (E-9) Instructor/Evaluator Boom Operator, on KC-135 Stratotankers.
Being close to my heart, I snatched up the SAC cap as soon as I saw it and was surprised to find it unused and with the original $22.99 price tag and the holographic "Officially Licensed Product" sticker still on it. The ES price was $4. Same price for the enameled SAC shield on a leather thong.



However, the first thing I picked up was the Dresser-era S-K Tools socket box. It was filled with a wrench-turner's potpourri of unrelated sockets and drive tools. Only the five 3/8 drive metric sockets in the tray belong to the set. No other S-K tools were to be had--and I looked! Everything else was 1/4 drive and included the Proto extension, Williams M-110 driver, Husky CM50 hinge handle and two CM43 rats. The socket groups are 5 Snap-on, 5 Thorsen, 4 Bonney, 3 Taiwanese, and orphans from Husky, Giller, CM, New Britain and Williams. The Williams is 9/32 drive. The 24-page S-K Pocket Catalog dated 1970, was in the box, under the plastic tray. All that was $8.
The Herbrand J-8 Ratch-A-Daptor (Pat. Pend) was another buck.
Last but not least, is the Proto (Mfd) 370 All-Angle Drill with a no-name screwdriver bit in the chuck. $5.

That proto drill is very rare. You ****!

 

[Outlawmws]

ratcheting screwdriver (have some bits for it already) were just oddballs I wanted to research.

I have bunch of that ratcheting driver. I like them a little MMO and they always seem to come right back no matter how rough they seem when picked up. "ratchet Versatool" seems to be the primary Mfg, but they private labeled them a lot also. Some are hex drive like yours (needs a bit with a detent to stay put) and pull out multi tool "blade" similar to Leatherman Multi tools. Probably deserve a thread if someone hasn't already...

I seem to recall @Private Lugnutz taking a deep dive once?

Last but not least, is the Proto (Mfd) 370 All-Angle Drill with a no-name screwdriver bit in the chuck. $5.

That proto drill is very rare. You ****!

I think that was made by Jo Mfg in South Gate CA. who called it a "JOIC" I have one with a domed handle cap.
It has the patent No. Not sure of the relationship between Proto and Jo Co. if any

 

[Smokeshow69]

That proto drill is very rare. You ****!

Why do you say that drill is rare? I seem to always come across a few on eBay so I’m curious what makes it rare?

 

[Jacobs976]

they always seem to corm right back no matter how rough they seem when picked up.

This one might be an exception. Started cleaning it up a bit and it appears someone took issue with the ratchet mechanism and filled it with some type of glue. It's a bit more rubber like than epoxy like so it should clean up with acetone probably but there may be something broken internally. Or someone just really didn't like the ratcheting mechanism but liked the ergonomics of the thing.

 

[bmwrd0]

Why do you say that drill is rare? I seem to always come across a few on eBay so I’m curious what makes it rare?

You want rare, find the P&C version.

 

[RTM]

I seem to recall @Private Lugnutz taking a deep dive once?

Lugz taking a deep dive on something, nah, not him.

The Amazing Shelton Socketool, c.1961

Uncharacteristically, I picked up this 60's era mass marketed tool set in a plastic case at the flea market this morning for peanuts. These midget hex drive multi-tool ratcheting bit sets are not particular high-quality (compared to, oh, say, Chapman’s offerings, just to name one, and...

www.garagejournal.com

You and I have both chipped in….

 

[shanny19]

Update to my last post. Also got 4 free nails with the hammer.
Honestly one of the most difficult handle extractions I've done. Handle was tighter than I had imagined so it didn't budge with a punch and hammer.

I do a lot of vintage axes, and highly recommend the small A-frame Harbor Freight benchtop hydraulic press.

 

[four.cycle]

@Smokeshow69 - re: Jo-Line hand drill -
I think there was some discussion about those here a while back.
(Jo made them for Proto & P&C? )(fuzzy memory)
Jo / Jo Mfg. Co., South Gate, CA (4225 E. La Palma Ave., Anaheim, CA 92803) / "Jo-Line" / patent 2310759 Feb 9 1943 Ira C. Clawson & 3016773 Jan 16 1962 Robert Glen Woods / https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413693 /

the patent cited there applies to that "Drill with Adjustable Head" - datamp.org doesn't mention Proto or P&C, however.

BK

 

[bmwrd0]

The front one is a Jo while the one in the rear is a P&C. Somewhere I have a Proto also, but not too sure at this point.

 

[seber]

Update to my last post. Also got 4 free nails with the hammer.

Honestly one of the most difficult handle extractions I've done. Handle was tighter than I had imagined so it didn't budge with a punch and hammer. Drilled out reliefs and it still didn't budge. Had to knock out parts of the grain till the nails budged then pull them and finally with 3/4 of the grain removed the rest of the handle came out with a punch, a 4lb sledge, and more force than I wanted to use.

Looks like the thing's older than I thought though. Haven't seen nails used as wedges other than a wrought iron pickaxe I couldn't get a date off of.

Those square nails are cement nails, not cut nails so not necessarily old.
The pickaxe thing, are you referring to a mattock?

 

[Old Radar]

That proto drill is very rare. You ****!

Why do you say that drill is rare? I seem to always come across a few on eBay so I’m curious what makes it rare?

Thanks JD, but I'm going to have to go with Smoke on this one. I just counted 19 for sale on eBay plus a couple being parted out. There are nine on the recently sold page.
I will say that mine is among the best condition of the lot.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I will say that mine is among the best condition of the lot.

I will that without even looking at eBay! (I found mine, a Proto, back in 2021, and the handle is devoid of red paint. I posted it on the 2021 GS thread, linked here, as well as the Proto thread.) But it's not the nicest I have seen. Close second. Somewhere on GJ there is a NOS one in a NOS box owned by jvlyons.

As for the OEM, DATAMP thinks it's JO Mfg, as Outlaw alluded to. But as I said on the Proto thread, linked here, and then again on the Lugzsonian thread, where I discussed it further, I'm not sure I trust them on this point. The patent (2,310,759), which dates to 1943, granted to the eponymous "Clawson" of L.A., was never assigned to any company, and I suspect that it may have been made by multiple mfgrs under license to Mr. Ira Clawson, including Jo Mfg Co. and Proto, an opinion that is further emboldened by his name being marked on the tools, typical for a licensed product (e.g., Phillips screwdrivers), and the fact that the JO and Proto variants are not identical.

EDIT: Fixed one of the links.

 

[four.cycle]

^ Thanks. I just sent an email to datamp.org about that. My memory is fuzzy on this one, Lugz. I thought "Jo" was making them for the other companies.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Very small haul (Lugz 2024_05) from the flea this morning.



If you're having a deja vu right now, some of you may recall that I found a similar wartime Navy manual in my seventh haul of the year last year (Lugz 2023_07), ironically, also in February, linked here. That was the 1944 edition. This one is quite a bit different, with a few different and additional illustrations.

The pin spanner is a FoMoCo with a nice deep script FoMoCo logo. Some of you may recall I found a few FoMoCo tools in an old toolbox with some K.R. Wilson tools last October (Lugz 2023_32), linked here, with close-ups in the K.R. Wilson thread. Those were the first FoMoCo marked tools I have ever found in the wild, so I guess I have a little unintentional collection going now.



The tappet wrench is a Herbrand. I found a whole set of these late 1930's models in a leatherette pouch many years ago, but I have a few extras, and I always pick them up just in case anyone else needs one to complete a set or to complete a second or third pouch-less set, whichever comes first.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

My memory is fuzzy on this one, Lugz. I thought "Jo" was making them for the other companies.

I think that's probably what everyone thinks, but I have never seen any documented evidence of that. My suspicions and theory could be wrong. But I have never seen any evidence, he was not an assignor for Jo, and I can't see any reason for putting his name on the tool if he worked for Jo. That makes no sense. EDIT: Although I suppose it's still possible JO licensed it from Clawson and made it 3rd party for others. Again, just haven't seen any documentation of that.

 

[Jacobs976]

Those square nails are cement nails, not cut nails so not necessarily old.
The pickaxe thing, are you referring to a mattock?

Thanks for the info on the nails. Didn't know there was different kinds.

Yeah I was talking about a mattock. Couldn't remember the word at the time.

 

[JohnDeere]

Why do you say that drill is rare? I seem to always come across a few on eBay so I’m curious what makes it rare?

I meant it is rare to see in that condition.

 

[misterbill]

"Un-marked crossbar"

Paging Don.

FWIW, I believe the crossbar is a Snap-on. It exactly matches (in size and finish) one I have with a WWII-era 9/32" drive breaker bar.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

My LEFT-BEHINDs this morning included a BELL SYSTEM D marking set, a crate from a wartime mine marking kit, and a miscellaneous mess o' structural and construction (colloquially, "spud") wrenches.

 

[jeffmoss26]

My LEFT-BEHINDs this morning included a BELL SYSTEM D marking set, a crate from a wartime mine marking kit, and a miscellaneous mess o' structural and construction (colloquially, "spud") wrenches.

Oh man I would have loved that bell system kit

 

[d42jeep]

The first sale on our list offered virtually no parking within blocks of the sale so we blew it off and went on to the next sale in Pleasant Hill, CA, where we parked right across from the front door. There were some tools left in a homeowner grade Craftsman box. This is what we ended up with.
Lectrolite/Tru-Fit DBE wrenches
Thorsen tools
Interesting Utica pliers
S-K tools
Crescent tools
Hinsdale and Dunlap DOE wrenches
The cordless screwdriver is a North Bros. Handyman with three bits inside.
-Don

 

[Outlawmws]

I suppose it's still possible JO licensed it from Clawson and made it 3rd party for others. Again, just haven't seen any documentation of that.

My "Jo" is marked "Clawson" by the patent - I didn't see that on the Proto or P&C? (P&C was hard to see...)

Maybe it was "Jo Clawson"? And she didn't get no respect from the Proto Empire?

Just stirring the pot!

 

[four.cycle]

^ those Lectrolite box-ends are pretty fabulous, Don!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Oh man I would have loved that bell system kit

Made by Mathews and I have a few already, including a set they made for the Ordnance Dept during WWII. How high do you want to go? I may see it again.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

My "Jo" is marked "Clawson" by the patent - I didn't see that on the Proto or P&C?

Proto variants, which only have the patent number, came about 10 years after the JO. More on JO thread.

 

[Outlawmws]

Proto variants, which only have the patent number, came about 10 years after the JO. More on JO thread.

The only mfg listed on the patent was Jo:
Manufacturer:
Jo Mfg. Co. - South Gate, CA

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The only mfg listed on the patent was Jo:
Manufacturer:
Jo Mfg. Co. - South Gate, CA

That's not true. The patent was never assigned to a manufacturer.

 

[SC Fly Guy]

The first sale on our list offered virtually no parking within blocks of the sale so we blew it off and went on to the next sale in Pleasant Hill, CA, where we parked right across from the front door. There were some tools left in a homeowner grade Craftsman box. This is what we ended up with.
Lectrolite/Tru-Fit DBE wrenches
Thorsen tools
Interesting Utica pliers
S-K tools
Crescent tools
Hinsdale and Dunlap DOE wrenches
The cordless screwdriver is a Stanley Handyman with three bits inside.
-Don

Love the Crescent socket!! Being from Jamestown, I look for ‘all things Crescent’ and the sockets are as rare as hen’s teeth in my experience. I find them very seldomly.

 

[Outlawmws]

I didn't say assigned - I said the Manufacturer was listed; that text was copy/pasted from the web patent page verbatim.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I didn't say assigned - I said the Manufacturer was listed; that text was copy/pasted from the web patent page verbatim.

I don't know what you mean by "listed". Patents don't list mfgrs. Patents are granted to people. When those people are assignors for a manufacturer, the patent will include the manufacturer's name and indicate that it has been assigned to them. I don't know what you are looking at, but it's not the Clawson patent. The Clawson patent for the drill called a JOIC by JO Mfg and called an Any-Angle by Proto was never assigned to any manufacturer. In short, the patent does not include any manufacturer's name on it.

 

[3baygarage]

Datamp lists the manufacturer as Jo. Take it as you will.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Datamp lists the manufacturer as Jo.

JO was clearly a mfgr. But DATAMP listing JO as the mfgr has nothing to do with the patent.

Outlaw said...

The only mfg listed on the patent was Jo:

Again, that is not true.

DATAMP is not affiliated with the US Patent Office. It's a hobby site. Like GJ. And a hobbyist, like you or me, volunteering for DATAMP, provided the mfgr as additional information. They didn't get that information from the patent. They got it from research, the same research I posted on the Proto thread a couple years ago, and again on the JO thread. Period ads in trade mags indicating that JO was the mfgr. I am not arguing that JO was not the mfgr. I am just letting him know that JO Mfg is not named on the patent. Because JO Mfg did not own the patent.

Here is pg 1, 2, and 3 of the Clawson patent.