For those that ask "how deep do a build my garage?"

[dcg9381]

And you know what? Insurance covers that.

1) Every hit to my CLUE report impacts my future rates across the board.
2) I'm super particular about my paint work. Hail can easily do $10k+ worth of damage. Very few shops can do jobs to my standard and even PDR - they have to drill holes sometimes.
3) It's going to show as a claim on carfax, reducing vehicle value. Not that I really buy or sell cars anymore.

Life happens, it’s a piece of metal.

Vehicle is a piece of metal? Spouse's car is a piece of metal, not mine.

I’d much rather deal with hail damage in my truck that the $28,000 claim for the house from the same storm.

Yea, this is pretty much why I have never built a house and spent the money on a 30-year composite shingle. Chances of hail here wiping out the roof within 30-years are pretty good. I see there are some new materials options in roofing that may solve this issue without having to go to the 300% more expense of a metal roof that will show hail damage, but last a lifetime.

There is - almost annually - hail here that will ding up a vehicle (not baseball size) but not destroy the residential roof... That's a little more common, but it's also why all the vehicles are inside.

 

[liliysdad]

This will be my fifth roof in 15 years, and I could likely have claimed twice that many. Southern Oklahoma likes to make hail.

I’ll probably just have what I can done on the truck by a PDR guy and not worry about the rest. I drive older stuff and I don’t worry about resale. I like to keep my stuff nice….but I refuse to let it own me.

I despise hail, but I can’t change it, so I don’t worry about it. This is the culprit from the last storm there was a 0% chance of rain, and I even had room in the shop to park the truck, but didn’t

 

[1/4atatime]

1) Every hit to my CLUE report impacts my future rates across the board.
2) I'm super particular about my paint work. Hail can easily do $10k+ worth of damage. Very few shops can do jobs to my standard and even PDR - they have to drill holes sometimes.
3) It's going to show as a claim on carfax, reducing vehicle value. Not that I really buy or sell cars anymore.


Vehicle is a piece of metal? Spouse's car is a piece of metal, not mine.


Yea, this is pretty much why I have never built a house and spent the money on a 30-year composite shingle. Chances of hail here wiping out the roof within 30-years are pretty good. I see there are some new materials options in roofing that may solve this issue without having to go to the 300% more expense of a metal roof that will show hail damage, but last a lifetime.

There is - almost annually - hail here that will ding up a vehicle (not baseball size) but not destroy the residential roof... That's a little more common, but it's also why all the vehicles are inside.

I had hail just a few months after moving in and not big hail so roof was fine but man it did a number on my sports car. I don't remember the final number but is was $15k+ (Luckily I had really good insurance) and then insurance paid out another $2k to have my car recoated in ceramic coating. Now I have damage report on my nice car. So that's my driving factor to get a garage put in so I don't worry about that again. I mean its just a car but still I try and keep my stuff looking nice so a garage for my cars is a must.

 

[ZRX61]

I think you're gonna need a 3/4 ton+, even if it fits in the bed. Trailer is a lot cheaper.
What does that power?

These:

 

[ZRX61]

I think I could squeeze one in an F150 short bed. I think the payload capacity might take a hit though.

89in long, about 1700lb

 

[ZRX61]

My 2007 F350 Super Duty is listed as just over 23 feet and that's without the push bars and hitch on the back. Truck is tall enough it won't even get under the door header and it's stock height...

My '86 is about the same height as the '20 Explorer ST, it looks like a lowrider next to newer SuperDuty's. Bed height is 32in from the ground. (260in long without the hitch) No idea what the newer ones are.

 

[dcg9381]

These:

Yea, I should have caught that.. I mistook the supercharger as a something else. We've got one P-51 around here at the local airport... You can hear it coming. Hell of a toy.

 

[mike93lx]

And you know what? Insurance covers that.

I try to get my vehicles inside if hail is imminent but I don’t stress too much about it. I have a check for $4500 sitting on the refrigerator for hail damage to my pickup from a hail even that wasn’t even predicted. Life happens, it’s a piece of metal.

I’d much rather deal with hail damage in my truck that the $28,000 claim for the house from the same storm.

Same here

 

[evildky]

Wow, that's massive cab, box doesn't look that long by comparison. I guess most of the dualies I see are Ford or Chevy and their cabs must be smaller because even without the 6.5' bed the bed just doesn't look that short.

 

[evildky]

Dually is definitely a towing machine,. Proportions of that one just make the bed look tiny.

FWIW, I have a Tundra with the "double cab" which gives me the 6.5' box, as opposed to the "Crewmax" which comes only wiht the 5.5' box. I have no need for that much cab and I use the **** our of the bed, 8' would be nice form time to time but not worth dealing with the extra foot and a half of truck. Tundra tows my toys just fine, no 5th wheel or gooseneck in my future.

 

[Cairo94507]

They start digging the foundation next week for our 36' x 44' x 14' garage! Already have the 2-post lift waiting that is 11'9". Should be plenty of room to play.

 

[Ak Jim]

Mine is a 25' in the current house and I would never go shallower. I don't even drive trucks but anything shorter and I would feel cramped. Those 20' x 20' garages in newer homes are useless. Of course, it seems like 90+% of homeowners keep $5.00 worth of disorganized ******** in their garages while $80,000 worth of cars sit outside so I'm not sure most folks care.

That is the truth!

 

[Ak Jim]

No need for a trailer here, these fit in an 8ft bed

Is that out of a P-51? Ok I saw the post after I posted this. Nice looking machine. Do you ever need a back seater? I’m a volunteer.

 

[ZRX61]

Is that out of a P-51? Ok I saw the post after I posted this. Nice looking machine. Do you ever need a back seater? I’m a volunteer.

I'm the backseater

 

[manwithtools]

Dually is definitely a towing machine,. Proportions of that one just make the bed look tiny.

FWIW, I have a Tundra with the "double cab" which gives me the 6.5' box, as opposed to the "Crewmax" which comes only wiht the 5.5' box. I have no need for that much cab and I use the **** our of the bed, 8' would be nice form time to time but not worth dealing with the extra foot and a half of truck. Tundra tows my toys just fine, no 5th wheel or gooseneck in my future.

What generation Tundra are you referring to? I have a 2024 with Crewmax and 6.5' bed. The current Tundra's are available with 5.5' and 6.5' beds in either Crewmax or double cab configurations.

 

[rjacobs]

The garage at our previous house was only 25' deep. I tried to put the ccsb F350 in the garage and found it wasn't possible.

You couldnt fit a CCSB superduty in 25'?

I have a CCSB superduty in my 21' deep garage(254" to be exact)... backed up against the wall(put a 1x4 on the wall for the hitch to bump) and it fits with about 2-3" to spare. The hitch and front tow hooks are the furthest points outboard on a SuperDuty... thats not the case for Ram and not sure on GM. I think on Ram the bumpers stick out further than the hitch or two hooks. I never looked at GM seriously enough to find out.

 

[CombatNinja]

More power to you but there is no way I would park my truck by 'bumping' into the wall or, alternatively, spend 10 minutes checking clearance to park my truck. I'd either leave it outside, build a bigger garage or move.

 

[Spareparts]

Damn it is bad to get old and your mind plays tricks on you, seen the title of your post,
and thought man why would you want your garage down lower than your driveway, don't
want to tell my wife about that, she would call the looney bin.

 

[liliysdad]

More power to you but there is no way I would park my truck by 'bumping' into the wall or, alternatively, spend 10 minutes checking clearance to park my truck. I'd either leave it outside, build a bigger garage or move.

With a backup camera, you don't have to "bump" it, you just back up until you see it touch.

 

[Skellyii]

Oh it's definitely not, it's just what I usually hear as the argument that "all trucks should have 8ft beds"

Jeez, can't say I've ever heard that argument. Heck, most people use their trucks more as fancy transportation than hauling stuff these days.

I think that most of my neighbors, friends and family members that have trucks are all short beds. Other than the guy that lives behind me with a Crew Cab F150 Long bed (try to park that thing) I'm the only one that I can think of that has an 8ft bed.

But, I knew what I needed a truck for, it's a bare bones 2D with the long bed because I transport sheet goods and other stuff. I needed the extra length yesterday, and I'm getting ready to get another long load after I finish typing.

 

[dcg9381]

I'm the backseater

I never cut in line, but if I had the opportunity here, I'd definitely cut in line.

With a backup camera, you don't have to "bump" it, you just back up until you see it touch.

Yea, I don't recommend it in a truck that weighs 4 tons. I don't recommend it because I've tried it and stuff gets broken. If you want to do it that way, I put it in neutral and pull it back by hand. Which you can't do in a garage if it has any slope.

Dually is definitely a towing machine,. Proportions of that one just make the bed look tiny.

This is the "only" new vehicle I've ever purchased and if you're in the market for one and are going to tow 5th wheels, you want the long bed. You can make it work with a short bed, but it's not ideal. The cab itself substantially decreases payload and a short bed can have clearance issues when turning a 5th wheel. Expensive mistake.

But yea, ANY modern diesel truck will pull just about anything you throw behind it. New ones (all brands) are over 1000 ft/lbs. That doesn't mean you'll be able to handle the weight at the pin.

 

[liliysdad]

Yea, I don't recommend it in a truck that weighs 4 tons. I don't recommend it because I've tried it and stuff gets broken. If you want to do it that way, I put it in neutral and pull it back by hand. Which you can't do in a garage if it has any slope.

Yeah, I just don’t worry that much.

 

[dcg9381]

Yeah, I just don’t worry that much.

I've tried it that way. I've found it's better to push than repair.
I'll chalk it up to your superior driving skills. There's a lot of stuff that I can't do as well as I could 30 years ago...

 

[Ultradog MN]

You mean people park their daily drivers in their garages?
What a novel idea.

 

[evildky]

Dave Melton <[email protected]>5:35 PM (2 minutes ago)

What generation Tundra are you referring to? I have a 2024 with Crewmax and 6.5' bed. The current Tundra's are available with 5.5' and 6.5' beds in either Crewmax or double cab configurations.

I have a 2021, replaced my 2010, basically the same truck from 2007-2021, they finally redesigned in 2022. I have the 78" bed, standard pairing with the double cab. The Crewmax got the 66" bed which is utterly useless for me. I really wish they made it 84. I tend to haul a lot of doors and it would be nice to shut the tailgate and not have to strap them in.

 

[MikeinKy]

This is 24' deep garage.
Short bed truck.
Won't fit with shelves... Should have gone 26'!

Long bed truck? Maybe 28-30'!

To answer the qustion, 30 ft minimum. Mine is 40 ft. I also don't understand why people buy short bed duallys. The aren't very useful. The bed is too short for a load. If you have a fifthwheel or gooseneck Most people around here end up with a sliding fith wheel or set back ball for cab cleareance. Don't claim thats's the only choice. There are several 2020 and newer here with 4 door longbeds. They do have to be ordered. One friend wanted ons and the dealer said not avaible. He said I;ll go elsewhere the salesman decided it could be ordered. One is a 2022 Ram and one is a 2021 chevy. A neighbor who works at a GM dealer was told the same thing. He said I guess I'll have to get a Ford they have them. The next day they found it could be ordered. There is a 6 month wait, but you can get it. My door is 16 wide and 1o ft tall

This is 24' deep garage.
Short bed truck.
Won't fit with shelves... Should have gone 26'!

Long bed truck? Maybe 28-30'!

 

[MikeinKy]

Also, My floor to door with it open is 128 in, and overhead it comes in under the ceiling 125 in. the door is 10 tall and 16 wide. As far as price, I checked several dealers, and the installed price varied a lot most advertised door companies were about double of local installers

 

[Metal-Marc]

My father refuses to buy a short bed truck because "what if I want to haul 4x8 plywood"

That's what an SUV is for.

 

[JJ Quick]

On my mid-term project list is to rehab my smallish two car garage.
I want to thank all of the contributors to this thread.

One of the primary objectives for my garage is to finally be able to park my 2003 Crown Vic in the garage alongside my 1982 VW Rabbit Convertible. Traffic safety demands that I back the car in.

The radio in the Ford has gone toes-up and I am shopping for its replacement. One of the questions has been a backup camera, yes/no? Reading this discussion, I realize a backup camera capable is a must have!

JJ

 

[rjacobs]

More power to you but there is no way I would park my truck by 'bumping' into the wall or, alternatively, spend 10 minutes checking clearance to park my truck. I'd either leave it outside, build a bigger garage or move.

I spend zero time checking clearances... I have a piece of tape on the floor in the dead center and I back in with the camera center line on the tape line and I back up until my receiver hitch JUST touches the wood on the wall. Its really not terribly complicated. Im not leaving a 75k dollar truck outside in Texas heat and/or hail... You talk about "just build a bigger garage" like we all have 100k+ dollar laying around plus the room to do it... or "just move" like its super easy to just pack up and move because the garage is 2-3 feet less than ideal... Is it ideal, no, but it fits and its really no big deal once you do it once or twice.

With a backup camera, you don't have to "bump" it, you just back up until you see it touch.

exactly... its not really that hard. Took me about 15 minutes to measure, put my tape line down, put the wood on the wall, etc... and its been like that for ~3 years now... works great.

 

[dcg9381]

There are several 2020 and newer here with 4 door longbeds. They do have to be ordered. One friend wanted ons and the dealer said not avaible. He said I;ll go elsewhere the salesman decided it could be ordered. One is a 2022 Ram and one is a 2021 chevy.

Yes, Ram has a 4-door longbed. They do not have a 4-door megacab longbed. It's not made.
Hauling ply has never been an issue, drop the tail-gate and strap it down. Anything larger than 4x8' goes on a trailer anyway.

 

[qdvuu]

These:

Where is this? If open to the public I'd like to put a visit to it on my to-do list.

 

[ZRX61]

Where is this? If open to the public I'd like to put a visit to it on my to-do list.

Van Nuys, not open to the public. It's a workplace. If you want to look at Mustangs go to PoF at Chino.

 

[Sumboodie]

Trucks have 8ft beds (the F350 is actually 8'2 with the tail gate closed). Appliance dollies have shorter beds

I call 8ft beds short beds, but my trucks have 12-16ft beds

 

[1/4atatime]

This thread now has me rethinking my entire build. Original I was going with 28Wx25L now I'm going with 28x28. I wanted 28x30 for price per sqft reasons obviously but it took every inch I could find within my setbacks and property layout to stretch it to 28ft (I spent 4 hours measuring property lines and utility/septic lines to maximize the space). I think the 28ft will be enough for my current needs and future proofing if I ever buy an extended bed truck or want shelves in the front. Hopefully the county will approve it going to drop off the setback info tomorrow so crossing my fingers.

 

[logical]

You put 2 foot+ deep cabinets behind the truck, that's not the garage's fault.

 

[GirlnAgarage]

OP, nice truck. Now don't get mad. While you have a short bed configuration, I don't know you can consider a MegaCab a short bed truck. That configuration is longer than the QuadCab or Crew Cab setup due to the longer length of the cab. In my experience a MINIMUM to get a 3rd Gen 2500/3500 Ram Short Bed Quad cab is a 20' garage,. You're in a 4th/5th Gen and I think those are slightly different but I cant remember right off the top of my head. It was a REQUIREMENT when I house shopped 20' garage or not go as it barely fit my 06 Ram 2500. Now, can I park my MegaCab Shortbed in the same garage? Absolutely not. It was such a priority that I stuck to that my realtor started showing up to list with ing with a tape measure and immediately walked to the garage first thing we walked in the house. I left some nice houses due to too short a garage.

I do like and agree with your post. Garages are too short. Developers these days squeeze too many parcels into a sudivision to maximize profits and they call a "two care garage" something it's not. A 20x20 is useless as someone already said. In the city before the Mega a 25x25 would be good for me. Now, it'd be too small. I measured out just a rectangle space doing some figuring out a pole barn cover or lean to roof for both trucks side by side, and a 25 deep x 28 wide would cover them and have room for doors to open, mirrors to not get smacked. Now, are buildings in that size? No. I'd have to free lance a build, which I am considering doing.

 

[Notgrownup]

My garage is 24x24 and it’s too shallow. I often wish I would have 26‘ deep

 

[Skellyii]

OP, nice truck. Now don't get mad. While you have a short bed configuration, I don't know you can consider a MegaCab a short bed truck. That configuration is longer than the QuadCab or Crew Cab setup due to the longer length of the cab. In my experience a MINIMUM to get a 3rd Gen 2500/3500 Ram Short Bed Quad cab is a 20' garage,. You're in a 4th/5th Gen and I think those are slightly different but I cant remember right off the top of my head. It was a REQUIREMENT when I house shopped 20' garage or not go as it barely fit my 06 Ram 2500. Now, can I park my MegaCab Shortbed in the same garage? Absolutely not. It was such a priority that I stuck to that my realtor started showing up to list with ing with a tape measure and immediately walked to the garage first thing we walked in the house. I left some nice houses due to too short a garage.

I totally agree. Before I started looking seriously for my last house, I ran into a realtor who had explicit rules from one of her clients that he would only look at houses with garages that could fit his F250 Crew Cab longbed.

When I was looking for the house I have now, I told my realtor that I wanted at least a three car no smaller than 24 deep x 32 wide, and/or the space on the lot to build an additional deep 2 car. before he would show me a house, he would look at the County permit listings that showed the garage size.

I ended up with a 3 car that's 28 deep x 34 wide, and the space to build an additional garage if I so choose.

I did have to pass up some houses that I really liked, but the garages were way too small, and they were on dinky lots, so I couldn't add additional space.

 

[Junkdrawer Dog]

Dad built a three bay garage/shop at his old place. He wanted to be able to park his service vans inside at the weekend, have a 48" deep workbench at the back wall and have room to stand and work in between. I believe he went with 30' deep. Worked out well. He also did a large, gravelled parking area in front for overflow parking. He did not like leaving the vans in town at his place of business on weekends because **** happens.