The VISES of Garage Journal

[Outlawmws]

It looks like a string of Permatex or something. Definitely not a crack.

 

[Shiftless]

It looks like a string of Permatex or something. Definitely not a crack.
-Don

I agree.
I zoomed in and didn’t see a continuous line like a crack.
Just an old “drool” of some product that hardened up.

Thats a fine example of the earlier, made in USA, vises that Columbian made for Sears. Maybe 1960’s or ??? Still in original paint!

Nice find Don

 

[Shiftless]

The swooping triangular shaped “tail fin” feature on the side of that line of vises inspired me to paint one up in 1957 Chevy colors. I started with a vise I bought cheap because it had suffered a run in with a grinder wheel. I filled that gouge with epoxy. If I ever sell it, I will tell the buyer it has more than a bit of filler in that spot.
You can see the gouge in the last picture.

 

[Outlawmws]

Ouch!

 

[Shiftless]

Ouch!

Indeed!
Seller was going to throw it into a scrap bin because the gouge was his fault and it pained him to look at the vise reminding him of his carelessness,.
I said “Don’t scrap it... I’ll give you ten bucks” SOLD !!

 

[jawstight]

I like these particular Craftsman vises because of that "fin". I think it's supposed to resemble the tail of an anvil? I like your paint scheme though. The '57 Chevy was a Classic to be sure.

 

[d42jeep]

I agree.
I zoomed in and didn’t see a continuous line like a crack.
Just an old “drool” of some product that hardened up.

Thats a fine example of the earlier, made in USA, vises that Columbian made for Sears. Maybe 1960’s or ??? Still in original paint!

Nice find Don

Thanks. It could be yours! I chipped off whatever that drool was and the red paint is less faded there. It probably happened early on.
-Don

 

[Shiftless]

Now that I think about it, that shape on the side of those vises better resembles the tail fin of a later car. 1960 Caddy

 

[Outlawmws]

Beginnings of the Space Race and swept wing jets! Fins were everywhere!

 

[CRSINMICH]

Those pictures of fins reminded me of the 'Old Pictures' thread. It hasn't been used in a long time but it's a hoot.

OLD (pre 1960's) PICTURES. have any to post either that you've found or have a story?

ALL: I don't know if some of you like old pictures (pre 1960's) as much as I do of the old shops, machines, tools and guys (and gals) working, but thought it might be worth making a thread about them in our Vintage Tool Section. i'll start it off with my GRAMP'S old Cat D6 that he used to do...

www.garagejournal.com

 

[ZOSO45]

Good morning,
Looking at the screw nails (rivets) on the McMaster-Car site. Can anyone tell me which one to order for the badge installation? Thank you.

 

[rust in the eye]

Now that I think about it, that shape on the side of those vises better resembles the tail fin of a later car. ‘61 Caddy

That's a '60. I had one.

 

[Shiftless]

That's a '60. I had one.

Thanks…I edited my earlier post.

 

[PeterPeter]

Going to check out this Parker 449 He wants more than I am happy paying. Not much online about these big fellas. If it were a 474, that would be an easy decision. Anything anyone can tell me what to look for (weak points, etc.)

thnx. Peterx2

 

[Oregon rock crusher]

Looks to have an improvised collar for the spindle. Check closely for breaks at the base of the dynamic jaw as the picture shows some boogering there. I'd probably go for it if everything worked and no major casting breaks that it is not a common vise at all. Swivel base rotating vise. Pretty cool. Ed.

 

[PeterPeter]

Looks to have an improvised collar for the spindle. Check closely for breaks at the base of the dynamic jaw as the picture shows some boogering there. I'd probably go for it if everything worked and no major casting breaks that it is not a common vise at all. Swivel base rotating vise. Pretty cool. Ed.

Thanks for the heads up. Those collars can be pretty pricey, But it might also be a good bargaining point. If the dynamic is welded, that would just be deal breaker. He first posted @ 125, and then changed, so seems he isn’t set on anything.

peterpeter

 

[fishwatcher]

Good morning,
Looking at the screw nails (rivets) on the McMaster-Car site. Can anyone tell me which one to order for the badge installation? Thank you.

Those look good! Do they install with just a hammer? No rivet tool needed?

 

[MyLittleSpartan]

Got this big sucker done, unfortunately can't keep due to car troubles but had fun with it for being my first vise.

 

[four.cycle]

Not much online about these big fellas

International Tool Catalog Library is your friend.

list of vise brands

gigantic list of vise brands

Go to Vise Info Thread
click "search" at top right.
click "everywhere".
click "this thread"
in the "search" window type "parker"
in the "by member" window type "four.cycle"
click "search"

 

[RickP330]

Hi guys, I am getting ready to put my vise back together after giving it some TLC. I'm kind of confused as to where to use grease and where to use some rust prevention. The lead screw I presume gets a thin coat of grease and in these pockets, when I took it apart were filled with grease. I had to scrape all the old grease out. I presume I just grease everything? Can anyone give me the 411?
RP

 

[Beerhippie]

Do two parts slide/ride/turn against each other? Grease 'em. Otherwise, rust prevention.

I prefer a dry moly lube (like MolyKote) for things that are exposed, like the slide. It doesn't collect grinding dust. My vises are users.

 

[RickP330]

Do two parts slide/ride/turn against each other? Grease 'em. Otherwise, rust prevention.

I prefer a dry moly lube (like Molycoat) for things that are exposed, like the slide. It doesn't collect grinding dust. My vises are users.

yeah, I am struggling with that. Using grease would just be a magnet to attract grinding dust. However, it appears to be necessary?

Yes, I am going to use the heck out of this thing, it will get beat on....

RP

 

[Beerhippie]

yeah, I am struggling with that. Using grease would just be a magnet to attract grinding dust. However, it appears to be necessary?

Yes, I am going to use the heck out of this thing, it will get beat on....

RP

This is what I use: https://www.dupont.com/products/molykote-d-321-r-anti-friction-coating-spray.html

Requires masking.

But DuPont has plenty of other versions: https://www.dupont.com/molykote/coating.html

Lots of brush-on options.

The heat-curing ones seem like they might be longer-lasting.

Not cheap, but don't attract dust/grinding debris.

 

[Beerhippie]

I used the spray-on MolyKote on the cylindrical slide of my Chinesium rotary-jaw Roughneck when I refurbed it a year ago:



It looks like it's all worn off, but it still glides open and closed with one finger. I used some moly wheel-bearing grease on the screw as it's entirely enclosed.

 

[PeterPeter]

International Tool Catalog Library is your friend.

list of vise brands

gigantic list of vise brands

Go to Vise Info Thread
click "search" at top right.
click "everywhere".
click "this thread"
in the "search" window type "parker"
in the "by member" window type "four.cycle"
click "search"

Thank you, four.cycle. All excellent resources. Really appreciate it. I hadn’t heard of these lists. I had, of course, done lots of searches here, but wow, there’s a LOT to wade through.
peter/peter

 

[Shiftless]

My user is a Wilton C1
I use Mobil One grease on the slide and the screw.
When I’m doing something that creates dust, I throw a rag over the exposed part of the cylindrical slide.

 

[PeterPeter]

International Tool Catalog Library is your friend.

list of vise brands

gigantic list of vise brands

Go to Vise Info Thread
click "search" at top right.
click "everywhere".
click "this thread"
in the "search" window type "parker"
in the "by member" window type "four.cycle"
click "search"

Thank you, four.cycle. All excellent resources. I hadn’t heard of those lists. I had, of course, done lots of searches here, and not stumbled on too many personal experiences with this vise. It is a rare one!

 

[jawstight]

Did some extracting of pages from Craftsman Catalogs, specific to bench vises. Thought they might be useful to others.

 

[Outlawmws]

Did some extracting of pages from Craftsman Catalogs, specific to bench vises. Thought they might be useful to others.

FYI there is a thread on that, in case you have anything new:

 

[jawstight]

Thanks. I don't think I've found anything knew, but didn't know about that thread. Sorry for the redundant post.

What I'm looking for in particular are the '84, '89 and '90 Craftsman Tool Catalogs

 

[682bear]

That Holland 16 is certainly a big boy. I’m betting the weight is less than 170. Some reliable sources say 132.

Upon 'official weigh-in', it comes out to 141 lbs... after compensating for the three pound bucket...



USPS also just delivered another hand vise... this one is a Goodell-Pratt geared jaw vise...





It's dirty, but is in very good condition and works smoothly.

-Bear

 

[Beerhippie]

Upon 'official weigh-in', it comes out to 141 lbs... after compensating for the three pound bucket...



USPS also just delivered another hand vise... this one is a Goodell-Pratt geared jaw vise...





It's dirty, but is in very good condition and works smoothly.

-Bear

I don't see your overhead lift?

Sweet lil' G-P!

 

[Outlawmws]

Upon 'official weigh-in', it comes out to 141 lbs... after compensating for the three pound bucket...

When was the last tine that scale was calibrated?

 

[Beerhippie]

When was the last tine that scale was calibrated?

The thickness of rust on the platen should match that on the balance beam, keeping it calibrated!

 

[682bear]

I check it every time I use it... it looks rough, but works well.

You can't expect it to look like much for the $25 I paid for it!

-Bear

 

[four.cycle]

^ when you're weighing vises and anvils, what's a pound either way really matter?

 

[KMScott]

Should I adjust the Spreadsheet? It might keep me up tonight.

Finished this up this week.

 

[akasrick]

I check it every time I use it... it looks rough, but works well.

You can't expect it to look like much for the $25 I paid for it!

-Bear

The same bucket must have been used at weigh-in or someone at the factory had their finger on the scale.



akasrick

 

[Tom99]

I picked up a Chas. Parker 973 1/2 last week with one serrated jaw and one smooth. Did Parker ever do this? Or was it ho-made or possibly a switched jaw?

 

[Outlawmws]

I suspect the serrated jaw was a replacement. The fit isn't quite on par with the "smooth" one - which is serrated, but in the old style for the 97X series - my 974 is serrated like that.