ALLFAST
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Yes,
IIRC, Skil was made by Kingston Connelly? I’ve got a late 40s Skil 10 inch 1 Hp 1725 RPM grinder which is rated at 13 amps.
I had a 1930s Baldor of the same size/HP/speed and it was rated at 9amps-The Skil is a beast !
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IIRC, Skil was made by Kingston Connelly? I’ve got a late 40s Skil 10 inch 1 Hp 1725 RPM grinder which is rated at 13 amps.
I had a 1930s Baldor of the same size/HP/speed and it was rated at 9amps-The Skil is a beast !
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genog
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My good friend Allfast (Shawn) found this one.
Shawn the Enabler, I call him
An ole 1/2 horse Schauer
Shawn the Enabler, I call him
An ole 1/2 horse Schauer
dutchgray
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Bought a pair of Wolf 8" 3 phase grinders, both have the cast pedestal, one has non standard work rests.
Need a bit of work but they are ok for £100 each.
One has been painted with horrible orange paint but it is peeling off so I should be able to get rid of it easily, the other has been fitted with some very narrow wheels for some reason.
Need a bit of work but they are ok for £100 each.
One has been painted with horrible orange paint but it is peeling off so I should be able to get rid of it easily, the other has been fitted with some very narrow wheels for some reason.
I have a Van Dorn 8" grinder 1/2 hp, 3600 rpms, 110 volts, 8 amps, Serial No. 110724. It runs fairly smooth. Manual grease opening on the top sides of the motor. I believe its pre 1925 model. Can't find any pictures on the web to show what parts are missing. Would this been worth a $100?
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Mike'smeatshop
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I would have paid that. Some wouldn't. After cleaning it up some, I think you will be pleased. They don't make classics like that anymore. Good pick.
Outlawmws
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Like Mike said some would some wouldn't
Too many questions for me:
Key is how are the bearings? with those oilers it may be Babbitt sleeves. Is the armature rattling in those?
No guards, one pitiful rest. those are essential at 3600 RPM adn ay 8"
I'm a bit surprised at 1/2HP for an 8" wheel. but it's also 8 amps at 110V, We are at 122 most places these days... so it may be closer to 1HP in reality? Surely at least 3/4
My "Load test' for a grinder is to laod the wheel with a 2X4 and see if I can stall it, and how easily.
It's like an old brass fan. Do a quality restoration and put it on display. It's really cool. However I wouldn't use it. (8 amps, 8", wire wheel, no guards - what could possibly go wrong!!)
What is that slotted cover screw on the front left side?
Im looking for a Walker Turner Grinder Stand like this!I just bought another delta 1/2 HP for $50.
Different style stand on this one.
Beerhippie
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I picked up a pair of Crafties today:
Both run perfectly--quiet and smooth. No play, no run-out. The 1/3 horse will need guards and the 1/2 needs to have the old compound cleaned off the paper wheels so I can apply my own.
$70 for the pair.
Both run perfectly--quiet and smooth. No play, no run-out. The 1/3 horse will need guards and the 1/2 needs to have the old compound cleaned off the paper wheels so I can apply my own.
$70 for the pair.
Outlawmws
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Yeah you ****!
Steve from Socal
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This is not a bench grinder but it is one I just did a refresh on, 14" Hammond
Ultradog MN
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Awesome!
Do you have the wheels for it?
They will set you back a bit.
I have a little 12" pedestal grinder and would like to find new wheels for it.
Do you have the wheels for it?
They will set you back a bit.
I have a little 12" pedestal grinder and would like to find new wheels for it.
Steve from Socal
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I have some old wheels but, no itwill be an expensive set of rocks!
futileresistance
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Unable to see much info on this. The wheels are 12" x 2"
Whole thing probably weighs 350-500 lbs.
It has a solid brass nameplate.
Says
Powermatic Heavy Duty Grinder
McMinnville, TN.
HP 2 RPM 1750
Can you tell me more motor specifics? Date of manufacture?
I don't have 3 phase power, so I need to set up a Variable Frequency Drive, but not sure if they can handle the inertia load back into the system, after powerdown. thank you for your help.
Whole thing probably weighs 350-500 lbs.
It has a solid brass nameplate.
Says
Powermatic Heavy Duty Grinder
McMinnville, TN.
HP 2 RPM 1750
Can you tell me more motor specifics? Date of manufacture?
I don't have 3 phase power, so I need to set up a Variable Frequency Drive, but not sure if they can handle the inertia load back into the system, after powerdown. thank you for your help.
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Here is 2 HP Powermatic in the link below. Powermatic is made by Baldor. There's a few other Powermatic bench grinders on this page.
Photo Index - Powermatic Machine Co. - 1217W Powermatic 2HP Bench Grinder | VintageMachinery.org http://vintagemachinery.org/photoindex/detail.aspx?id=41449
Ultradog MN
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I believe I have that same grinder.
I added a photo of the tag if that helps.
My guess is it's closer to 300 lbs.
Mine came from a high school and had all that safety stop and electronic braking **** on it.
I took it all off and installed a simple AB starter.
I run mine off a rotary phase converter as I have several other 3 ph machines in my shop.
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Steve from Socal
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Wow that safe start button is quite the piece, the short bus kids would be all over that!
Ultradog MN
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Here's a couple more photos of when I got it. That dynamic braking system required two 12x12x6" enclosures to contain it all that they had scabbed on it everywhere and with that "short bus" off switch ruined the looks of the old thing.
The brake did work tho. Before I took all that stuff off I did an experiment. I ran it up to speed then hit the big stop button. It took 16 seconds to come to a full stop.
Then I ran it up to full speed and unplugged it from the wall. It took 1 minute and 46 seconds to spool down to full stop.
I just watched it and smiled
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The inertia formula uses rotating mass. I calculate each grinding wheel at 21 lbs each. Since it is a 220v - 3 phase - 2hp motor... it should be about 1492 watts (746 x 2). I am going to use a 2.2kw braking resistor, which needs to stop that mass in 15 seconds. I don't want to toast the vfd in the very first use.Here's a couple more photos of when I got it. That dynamic braking system required two 12x12x6" enclosures to contain it all that they had scabbed on it everywhere and with that "short bus" off switch ruined the looks of the old thing.
The brake did work tho. Before I took all that stuff off I did an experiment. I ran it up to speed then hit the big stop button. It took 16 seconds to come to a full stop.
Then I ran it up to full speed and unplugged it from the wall. It took 1 minute and 46 seconds to spool down to full stop.
I just watched it and smiled
futileresistance
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Probably 160 - 230 microfarad. As far as taking it apart, photos and label everything. Bag and tag the screws and such. You will mess up, but that's how you learn. Get a 8" bearing puller. Have fun.
hyenaz
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Just picked up this Dayton 1Z706-G. Runs great, just going to clean up the insides and outs. Anyone have access to a manual/parts list? I've done some searching already, but no luck.
Nutria
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Here's one that is close.
hyenaz
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Thanks for the reply, unfortunately there are many design differences. I came across that one when I first started searching
four.cycle
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check archive.org - they do have a "Manuals" section
bmwrd0
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You need to cross reference that to find the original maker, and then you will find a manual, if one exists.
ALLFAST
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Beastly-Very cool
hyenaz
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I‘ve narrowed it down to Doer or Wissota so far
ALLFAST
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My money’s on Doerr. I’ve had three Daytons and they looked very much like this, and were Doerr manufactured.
hyenaz
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I was thinking the same, did your Daytons have the water trough? That is the only thing keeping my guessing between the two
ALLFAST
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One had a trough, one didn’t. Doerr made a ton of grinders for other labels!
Steve from Socal
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I finally found some 14X3" grinding wheels that were under triple digits.
ALLFAST
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That is beautiful. What is the approximate total weight, stand and all the bells n whistles? 650?I finally found some 14X3" grinding wheels that were under triple digits.