Above 1200 Sq/FT OldCarGuy’s New Toy Shop

[Nightshift]

Hey there OCG, I have a question. With such a nice, fully equipped machine shop there, I haven't noticed any vertical bandsaw (other than your 143 Powermatic). I see your Wells horizontal, but just curious as to why you've never put in even a small DoAll 16ML or something with a blade welder? Even my lowly shop has a vertical DoAll 16ML, a vertical 14" Roll-In and a Wellsaw horizontal (I had to sell my cherry 143 Powermatic to make room). I use the DoAll and Roll-in saws nearly every day for something. How do you get by without them ... or are they there hiding somewhere? Cheers, Bill

 

[OldCarGuy]

Hey there OCG, I have a question. With such a nice, fully equipped machine shop there, I haven't noticed any vertical bandsaw (other than your 143 Powermatic). I see your Wells horizontal, but just curious as to why you've never put in even a small DoAll 16ML or something with a blade welder? Even my lowly shop has a vertical DoAll 16ML, a vertical 14" Roll-In and a Wellsaw horizontal (I had to sell my cherry 143 Powermatic to make room). I use the DoAll and Roll-in saws nearly every day for something. How do you get by without them ... or are they there hiding somewhere? Cheers, Bill

Sure would be nice to have a big DoAll or Grob vertical band-saw added to my shop. However between my small 14” Powermatic and my Wells 9” x 16” cut off saw I get by. Anyhow I'm running out of space making me watch carefully on any major sized purchases. But the big reason is that I simply either passed up on or haven't come across a great deal on one yet...

Have to remember,, my shop is for my retirement use only. And don't use it for any production of any industrial of commercial products...

 

[Nightshift]

Sure would be nice to have a big DoAll or Grob vertical band-saw added to my shop. However between my small 14” Powermatic and my Wells 9” x 16” cut off saw I get by. Anyhow I'm running out of space making me watch carefully on any major sized purchases. But the big reason is that I simply either passed up on or haven't come across a great deal on one yet...

Ahh space ... I can assure you that I have a bigger problem with that than you! It killed me to see my Powermatic 143 leave ...

Have to remember,, my shop is for my retirement use only. And don't use it for any production of any industrial of commercial products...

Yup, mine too. People do keep trying to get me to make or fix things for them like a job shop, but my shop is also purely hobby. I do make (and fix) lots of things for myself and friends, but never for money. It would feel like a "job" then

Cheers Bill

 

[2ndgenguy]

Hey OldCarGuy, Awesome workspace you have there. I read the whole thread through, when I saw the first pages I asked myself "I wonder how long it will be before he starts to run out of space?" I guess its true that no matter how much space you have you will eventually run short of it. Thanks for putting this up for everyone to enjoy.

 

[havi]

Awesome! This is a car guy's Heaven!

 

[OldCarGuy]

I thought I'd update my garage build thread to include my newest addition,, a paint booth. Along with reorganizing the garage that it's in. This will be my working garage for restoring my antique cars and repairing my modern ones as well...

Here the paint booth with the filters in place,, taken at night..

Manometer to detect condition of filters. And Variable Frequency Drive (VFD) that converts 24 Volt single phase to three phase...

The advantage of a VFD is that it can be set up to “soft start and stop” the fan. That is it'll start the motor slowly until the full PRM's are reached. Or run the fan at less than full RPM's.. As shown bt the following video clip. Video taken from inside the plenum box,, looking up at the fan...



The complete build thread can be found here... http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89068

And a few pictures after I cleaned up this garage... Around my BendPak XPR-10ACX two-post lift and 4,000 pound capacity bridge crane..

Placement of a steel workbench with Wilton vise and file cabinet on side of booth..

1 1/2 HP Baldor buffer with two storage cabinets mounted to the booth..

Stash of buffing wheels and polishing rouge...

My roller Snap-On tool cabinet along with Allen Syncrograph Distributor Tester.

A maple top workbench with Columbia vise work and Waterloo and Craftsman roller tool cabinets...

Ranger RX-950AT tire changer, DTS-1000 wheel balancer, RTJ-1 Two-stage Transmission Jack, and Todd 18 gallon oil lift drain canister

Acetylene set,

 

[NASTYZEN]

Well your not getting any rest there old car guy.Looks great.

 

[harrisor]

Wow! Simply wow! Really nice looking garage and setup there. Congratulations!

 

[Scuderia-F1]

I'm totally out of words!

 

[Boosted1]

Wow! You are setup better than most small businesses I imagine.

 

[Hjallinn]

This is totaly amazing. Thanks for sharing.

Best Regards Bjartur

 

[rburke65]

Is that an extra set of lift arms for the the Bend Pak that I see to the right of the Allen Syncrograph Distributor Tester? Or are they different? Yep...never enough space.

 

[BEAVO]

wow some shop(s) you have!! and allot of cool tools and cars. if you don't mind me asking i see your a buckeye where in general do you live in ohio i don't need your address or anything lol_hitti just wondering if im close to you very nice shopes

 

[GregJW]

Absolutely amazing.

 

[TRWTOW]

very nice

 

[diamondave]

Very nice set-up... never thought about an overhead crane, but I just might look into it. It would be handy engine hoist.

 

[mrstang69]

Absolutely amazing.

Absolutely amazing.

 

[OldCarGuy]

Is that an extra set of lift arms for the the Bend Pak that I see to the right of the Allen Syncrograph Distributor Tester? Or are they different? Yep...never enough space.

Good eye. They are an extra set of arms. My list was the second XPR lift that BendPak made. And some bugs had to be worked out. They were quick to replace the originals...

wow some shop(s) you have!! and allot of cool tools and cars. if you don't mind me asking i see your a buckeye where in general do you live in ohio i don't need your address or anything lol_hitti just wondering if im close to you very nice shopes

I live halfway between Cleveland and Akron.

Very nice set-up... never thought about an overhead crane, but I just might look into it. It would be handy engine hoist.

My two bridge cranes sure come in handy. Well worth the time and money I spent...

 

[PureSilver]

My two bridge cranes sure come in handy. Well worth the time and money I spent...

I'm afraid they look so good I'm going to ask a few questions about them...

1. How did you arrive at your overall maximum load rating? Do you know the maximum load the girders will take? Or is the hoist the weak point?
2. It doesn't look like movement in the horizontal plane is powered. Do you just drag the hoist cable around by hand to move the beam/hoist? Is that difficult when there's something heavy on the hoist?
3. Is there anything you'd change, having put them up?

Sorry for the interrogation, but congratulations on the shop(s)! Simply amazing

 

[HotRodJohnny]

Hi OldCarGuy,
Wonderful job BTW, I have set up my shop very similar however my paint booth is grandfathered in and it is built into the back of my shop. Of course I have to lease as this is part of a business. Maybe someday I can make it out to the country and build from scratch. I have taken note of your overhead crane and will be making use of your designs. Great idea's, wonderful shop. I still believe there is a way to make a living restoring cars. Hopefully, I have a working formula that will work.

 

[ed_v]

bump,

If you haven't looked through this thread, you should! One of my favorites. I need to figure out how to combine this shop, Kiwi Kev's, and ZTfabs, and Nimrod's all into one. I guess what I need is an old school hot rodding meets modern fabrication shop!

well done OldCarGuy

Ed

 

[ejm1961Tbird]

OCG,

I really enjoyed looking at your garages and tools! Really awesome! Are you enjoying that paint booth? Had a chance to spray any project cars yet? Again, congratulations on everything you have accomplished.

 

[OldCarGuy]

Been a while since I posted on the Journal. I have been well, except for a bout with a kidney stone in July. That was my first major health issue, and hopefully the last. I ended up having a general anesthetic and Ureteroscopy. Breaking the stone up with a laser and removing the pieces with a basket. It surely wasn't a walk in the park. The procedure required the placement of a stent for a week. That was nearly as painful as the stone itself. After which the passing of five small fragments that were left behind. I experienced two weeks of severe pain past the surgery...

Most of my car antique car projects have been slow go. Been still working on the two cracked cylinder jugs from my 1910 Buick. Sad to report there's no success. I have been busy working full time building a number plastic injection molds in my machine shop for the past year. Making use of all my equipment,, including my Deckel KF3S three dimensional Pantograph Copy Machine. That has proven to be a great asset!

Below is a picture of my Cadillac Escalade that Mrs. OldCarGuy had a run in with a semi truck. That ended up being my first project for my new paint booth.... There was damage to the front fender, two side doors, and rear panel... Including taking out the side view mirror. While I was add it, I painted the bumpers and runner boards. That showed years of use,, or is that abuse...

Here's the after pictures.... With new mirror, pin stripping, and Cadillac insignia....

 

[qship510]

OCG, glad to hear you're A-OK. I've had kidney stones several times, but none so severe that they didn't pass with simply flooding my system with clear fluids. My wife has had similar mild stones and says that the pain is worse than childbirth, so I can just imagine what you've been dealing with!

The Escalade looks good! Nice work.

 

[ejm1961Tbird]

Nice job on the Cadillac OCG. Were you happy with the paint booth?

 

[68-camaro]

I like your thinking, nice place!

 

[OldCarGuy]

Nice job on the Cadillac OCG. Were you happy with the paint booth?

Thanks for the compliment.

The paint booth worked out great. What a pleasure,, no more messing with huge sheets of plastic. And over-spray throughout the garage...

However the team was right on. Four additional lights mounted at the ground level would be far better when painting the lower sections. Particularly with my aging eyesight...

 

[carbons4]

I always get a kick out of looking at your shop. It is better equipped than a lot of the shops I have ever worked at, including my present one. Looks like all you need is a Laser, EB welder and a wire EDM and you would be pretty much set.

 

[Thedoc14]

OCG, Love your workshop's especially your tool room. I did my apprenticeship in Aust, at and aircraft factory as fitter and machinist. I must say there would be nothing you couldnt recreate in that cave of yours. Great work and great collection that would of taken many many years. I wouldnt say your going to retire, just take a different approach to your daily duties.

Would love to see some of your machine work on your tree revival car you dug up from the woods.


Ohhh Yeah!! just read all 20 pages, what a thrill it was to see inside your lifes work and collections.


Nick.

 

[BPJOOP93]

Just read thruogh the whole thing and all i can say is WOW
you sir are the bomb.
if i wore a hat it would be off to you

 

[ckadams00]

I am in total awe! You don't need an apprentice, do you?

Or just a guy to rub your cars with a diaper and get you a sandwich?

 

[ckadams00]

Making use of all my equipment,, including my Deckel KF3S three dimensional Pantograph Copy Machine.

And I thought I had a big weekend 'cause I got my first impact driver!

 

[A_Pmech]

Nice work OCG, looks like new! A paint booth sure does beat using plastic. I've done that a few times more than I care to remember!

 

[Red Leader]

Wow, how did I not see this thread? There are some guys/shops that are in a completely different caliber, and you sir are one of them.

(A_Pmech is one of them too)


Keep up the great work!

-RL

 

[nkachur]

An index has been created for the Garage Gallery build threads and I submitted yours on behalf of the Garage Journal community. We are trying to capture as many inactive threads as possible so I hope you don't mind. It will serve as a placeholder until you log in and check it for accuracy. Should you find errors, you can easily submit your own entry and mine will be deleted.

Drop in and give us an update if you have a moment

I have lurked on your thread here for a very long time and figured if there was a thread missing from the index it would be yours.

 

[rtjohn]

Re: Your clausing colchester lathe....

The Clausing Colchester is one of the finest lathes I ever came across. And will out perform most lathes on the market. Mine was manufactured in 1978, all original and well taken care of. It can still hold tight tolerances. It’s shear weight of 3500 pounds makes for chatter free turning and smooth operation. The simplicity of changing the 16 speeds of the spindle is well designed. From 25 to 2,000 RPM’s simply by changing the two selectors levers. The 25 RPM is plenty slow for larger diameter turning or thread chasing. And at 2,000 RPM, she is great for turning small diameter parts and runs smooth as silk. When I show her off, I always crank her up at full speed. And the foot petal brake will quickly bring her to a stop.

It’s interesting that your Father referred my lathe as a 7”. When actually it is marketed as a 15” swing. Its' capacity is 15 1\4 over the bed ans 9 1/2” over the cross slide.

Thanks for sharing the letter from you Father. Send him my best wishes. And thank him for his part in manufacturing such a great lathe!

first off i love your garage, i'm currently looking for my first home purchase of my own and the size of the garage is my most important requirement.

second and the reason i'm replying to this thread is the reason your Clausing lathe is a 7" is because the british measure their lahtes by the radius of the work that can be put in the machine and not the diameter.

 

[OldCarGuy]

second and the reason i'm replying to this thread is the reason your Clausing lathe is a 7" is because the british measure their lahtes by the radius of the work that can be put in the machine and not the diameter.

Learn something new every day. I never connect the fact that drill presses are rated by swing as a lathe,,, double the distance from the center-line of the spindle and the column... I can only wonder what they do in England...

An index has been created for the Garage Gallery build threads and I submitted yours on behalf of the Garage Journal community. We are trying to capture as many inactive threads as possible so I hope you don't mind. It will serve as a placeholder until you log in and check it for accuracy. Should you find errors, you can easily submit your own entry and mine will be deleted.

Drop in and give us an update if you have a moment

I have lurked on your thread here for a very long time and figured if there was a thread missing from the index it would be yours.

Been up to aligators to my ears this past year or so. And neglecting to post.. Though I have been busy in my shops...

Thanks for adding my complex to the data base... Everything looks okay except for the size.. Between my five garages on my retirement property and one off premise garage, I have a totally of 8,600 square feet of space.. And would you believe,, I wish I had more! Never build too much is my moto..

 

[tdkkart]

Been up to aligators to my ears this past year or so. And neglecting to post.. Though I have been busy in my shops...

Well don't forget to come back and show us what's going on........I was just checking the other day to see if you'd been around lately.

 

[don long]

Well OCG I have spent the entire evening drooling at your compound and everything in it.
my dad was a master machinist with a basement full of machinery.
I can only wish that I had spent more time learning how to operate his toys
when I was young. I went to trade school as a teen and learned collision repair now that I am retired from the collision industry and restoring old cars I envy you and all of your tallent along with your play pen.

Like all others here I say to you well done !!
Thank you for sharing with me
Don

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

OCG, just finished the entire thread (again) and I'm exhausted! How the heck do you do it? I mean, you didn't just wave your magic wand and voila', the shops, machinery, 100 point cars, and all the other tools/toys didn't just magically appear. Realizing that you are now 67-ish (?) and have literally spent a lifetime collecting, planning and executing that plan, I'm still overwhelmed by your accomplishments. All the accolades given to you by the members here are well-deserved, not simply for the toys/tools you have graciously shared with us through pics and posts, but more so because we recognize the tremendous drive and energy you must possess to carry out your well thought plans. Thanks again for taking us along for the ride in your ongoing odyssey!

One quick question for you sir -
Earlier in this thread, you mentioned that all your buildings have a dehumidifier installed (50 pint Westinghouse Dehumidifier). Are you still using these units, or have you found a better product? Have you ever tracked the humidity readings (interior vs. exterior) using these units and, if so, what were your findings? I live very near the Pacific and I'm wondering if one (or more) of these units in my one large shop space would mitigate the ravages of the salt air environment? Your thoughts on this topic would be much appreciated by myself and others who are battling the 'Demons Rust and Corrosion'.