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Airframe & Powerplant license, if I remember correctly. Right, Rick? Those who are aircraft mechanics must have it. A pilot with an A & P has a more thorough knowledge of the planes s/he flies. Tom earned his at the University of Illinois Institute of Aviation. I think you have to go through an FAA approved training program to obtain the license.

Oops! You two beat me to it!
Rick's correct about Tom's skills. No dogs and monkeys need apply when he's on the job!

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Airframe & Powerplant license, if I remember correctly. Right, Rick? Those who are aircraft mechanics must have it. A pilot with an A & P has a more thorough knowledge of the planes/he flies. Tom earned his at the University of Illinois Institute of Aviation. I think you have to go through an FAA approved training program to obtain the license.

Oops! You two beat me to it!
Rick's correct about Tom's skills. No dogs and monkeys need apply when he's on the job!

Chris

Didn't he say he got that license way back when, while working on tail draggers?? :headscrat
I don't think these planes are the stagger winged style made with wire, cloth and glue on wood spars.... :wtf:
 
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Continuing with the WFJRE...

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So here's the other side of the frame just about ready to slide into place. There are 5 pins, shafts, bolts etc that have to be lined up before the side will move into position, plus the return spring is pulling in the wrong direction and fighting you every step of the way. :tantrum2:

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But then if it were easy anyone could do it.


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Because the jack is so large you don't have a proper sense of scale here. Those floor tiles are 1' (.3 m) long, making that adjustable wrench about 2' (.6 m) long.

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The large nut on the lifting arm is 1 7/16" (3.7 cm) and I only had one fixed wrench that size. So the large adjustable was pressed into service.

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Here you can start to appreciate...

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...some of Don's fine attention to detail with the powder coating.

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If I made a suggestion of how to treat a detail...

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...he was always willing to try and figure out a way to do it. :thumbup:

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To install the rear casters the jack was inverted to make it much easier.

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So this is what the floor gets to see all the time.


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The bottom of the power cylinder is flattened in this area to provide more ground clearance. If you're looking at an old Walker and the rear casters have worn enough, the jack will bottom out on the powder cylinder in this area. If it's worn through the bottom of the cylinder too much that jack will now become a parts donator as it's almost impossible to repair. :sad:

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The very front end of the jack is held together by the front axle. That axle has not been installed yet in this picture so the frame rails are slightly splayed out as seen.

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That's all for now. Cameron and I spent 1/2 the day moving rocks (some quite large I might add) onto the rock pile in the back of the shop. It was normal July weather and we were soaking wet from the humidity 5 minutes into the project. We did get much more done on the jack but I'll post that tomorrow so please check back here. It really is looking quite handsome which you'll see. :)

Thomas
 

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Hi to Thomas and Chris,
Please add one more Aussie to your list.
I can’t call myself a lurker as I came here only recently, found this thread and haven’t ventured anywhere else in GF as yet.
I’ve forgotten how long ago it was that I arrived, several weeks I would imagine and reading this thread from start to finish has been a very pleasurable diversion from other matters. Alas, I have now reached the last page and decided to register just so I could say thank you to you both for a most enjoyable read.
A few different things stand out for me.
In no particular order.
The gentleman looking for his old Bonneville salt flats car. Any news?
I do hope he is successful.

What you call “clocking” screws.
My first father in law, who got me started on woodworking and taught me most of what I now know about using woodworking machinery used to call it “Setting” the screws. He did it as a matter of course and as he was teaching me something one day, he just commented, “Nice job, but you haven’t set the screws” He said it so matter of factly that he obviously felt I’d just forgotten to, not that I had no idea what he meant. When I asked him why he did that, he looked at me like I’d just asked him why he breathes. “It’s the right thing to do. The job isn’t finished until it’s done. Only then can you say ‘Job right!’”
I’ve done it ever since, even on screws that won’t be seen. And every time I do it, I think of him and say quietly to myself…”Job right!”
But the thing that really rocked my boat good and proper was that magical black and white vinyl floor.
I saw that on the very first page and it blew what I laughingly refer to as my mind.
I showed my wife and it was the first thing she noticed as well.
So retro, yet so right-now at the same time. I could picture how easily one could sweep up saw dust from that floor and have it looking great in no time.
Then…..as I progressed I saw instance after instance of the great care you had to go to to keep it looking nice. Even to the point of putting boards down when you bring a car in.
And my bubble burst. You see, I have 3 priorities in everything I do in setting up whatever shop I’m currently in.
In order of priority.
1. It must make the work more efficient.
or
2. It must add to my own personal comfort, which in turn tends to increase #1.
or
3. It must please me visually, which makes my mood right, which in turn means more of my #1 priority.

I quickly realized I would spend more time worrying about marking the floor which would detract from my #1 goal.
My shop must be capable of handling all trades. From woodworking to automotive to metal fabrication.
That floor just wouldn’t stand up and in time, would look terrible and take my spirits down.
So, I now have a quest.
I will search out a way of having that same look, without the maintenance factor.

Please don’t get me wrong, that floor is perfect for you, and I sincerely wish it was for me as well, and some day I’ll have one very much like it.

In closing, as a fellow baby boomer, the word awesome doesn’t cut it for me.
Therefore to describe your shop restoration I can only use the one phrase that means anything to me.

Job right! :thumbup:

Jim
 
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Chris and I are going to the Pontiac, Michigan LCOC meet in July with both Lincolns. You'll probably recognize the cars before you do us, so if you're there at the meet, please stop by and introduce yourself. :thumbup:
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howdy all :) great picturs and great storys. very nice job on the restore of the 30's garage. love the old look of the building and the new. i have been enjoying the old shop equipment you have been pulling back out of the shed to restore.

i live 10min from pontiac . where does your LCOC club meet at ?. last year at the woodward cruise i seen a lincoln club set up in front of the phoenix center in downtown pontiac. do you come to the woodward cruise in august ? .

Perry
 

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That floor just wouldn’t stand up and in time, would look terrible and take my spirits down.
Jim

you would be suprised how well that will hold up and beable to hide the imperfections it will occur over time. i use to be a commercial floor covering installer and have installed many box's of that armstrong tile. a good sealer and 5 coats of high traffic wax makes the tile shine and durable. it can be a constant maintenace floor to keep looking new, but can allways strip the floor and redue if it gets to bad. allways good to have spares tiles around since it is easy to replace one or two broken ones. i use that same tile on a few of my shop work bench's. for cleanup we used charcoal lighter fluid to remove tile glue, shoe/boot marks and such from the tile. cleans it right up and doesn't hurt the tile.
but ya i would not suggest it in a heavy mechanis shop. but it definitly works for thomas and should last for a long time for him the way he treats it :)
 
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Today is still yesterday's tomorrow so I'm keeping my word about getting some more of the WFJRE posted here today.....which yesterday was tomorr... well you guys are a clever bunch, you figure it out! :confused:

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With the jack inverted and ready for the rear casters to be inserted the rear bearings needed to be cleaned just once more before installation. Notice the small note "right side" on the top right corner. So the next picture is the...

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...other side of course. I labeled everything from the jack as it was dissembled and reinstalled all the parts back from whence they came. The left side had an additional bearing keeper that was missing from the right side. After some consultation with a couple of respected engineers I reinstalled the casters just as they came apart with the right side retainer still missing. Their thinking is that the light duty this jack is likely to see over the next 20 years or so shouldn't present a problem. Check back with me in 20 years and I'll let you know if they were right or not. :headscrat

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So here are all the pieces/parts ready to go. 21 ball bearings each side all cleaned and ready.

Right now I know what you're thinking, the right side bearing had only two pieces as shown, but the jack is upside down so you're seeing the left side casting. Will the skillful and resourceful A&P remember and swap the bearings....

.......yes I did. :thumbup:

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LubriPlate was used to "stick" the balls in place, counting them as they were installed to make sure they'll all aboard. I know it would be obvious if one were missing, but counting them kept me focused on the job at hand.

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Then some more grease packing was done...

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Note the two different parts which make up the rear bearing assembly. The part shown on the right, containing the balls, should be placed into the jack casting, oriented as shown. Unfortunately in a second, you're going to see it placed upside down and incorrectly. Afraid to say I don't have a picture showing it installed correctly. Now is the time to avert your eyes if you don't wish to see this gruesome spectacle. :eek:

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So with the two halves put together some more LubriPlate packing was done.

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Then the jack casting was lubricated also...last warning to look away......

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Right there... that's WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! That bearing should be turned over and installed the other way.:willy_nil Oh the humanity of it all!!!!!!!

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The caster is liberally lubricated also...

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...and then the caster is placed in the bearing...but wait a minute...STOP......... the bearing is STILL upside down!!!!!!:scared: OMG, will it never end???????

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In the end, the bearing was turned over, installed correctly, the caster installed and a world crises was averted. :eek2:

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I used an offset screw driver here to tighten the caster set screw. (BTW, note the color of the jack here. I'm telling you powder coating doesn't photograph consistently :dunno: Don tells me it's from the metal in the powder, but can you really trust a guy who wants me to buy a 1951 Willys truck located in Utah ;))

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The offset screw driver fit the screw slot the best so that's why it was used. From the factory these set screws were staked in place. I tighten them well and chose not to re-stake them. I'll keep an eye on them to see if they are prone to loosing up. Again, with the light duty the jack is likely to have under my ownership, I don't expect it to be a problem.
Once I showed Cameron how NOT to do it...

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...he reassembled the "other" side successfully. The main reason I stressed all the grease packing is that those casters can't be lubricated once the jack is in normal use. To do so you'ed have to remove them and repeat all the above. If they're well packed to begin with, they should go many, many years without a problem.

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With the rears done...

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...it's time to turn attention to the front wheels....next time. :)

Thomas
 
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Perry 71,
Now that I've finished reading here, I've had a chance to look around the rest of the forum.
There's a whole section on flooring.
Is this what they refer to as VCT flooring?
If so, what exactly IS VCT?
It seems tyre marks are pretty common and they just accept the regular re-strip and re-polish.
Right now I'm building cat enclosures and a lot of the fabrication and welding is done in my shop. I suspect welding splatter would leave permanent marks, or how about dragging something heavy like an engine block?
Its pretty soft isn't it? or is it?

I know nothing about this topic so if you have the time to teach me I'd appreciate it.
 

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Perry 71,
Now that I've finished reading here, I've had a chance to look around the rest of the forum.
There's a whole section on flooring.
Is this what they refer to as VCT flooring?
If so, what exactly IS VCT?
It seems tyre marks are pretty common and they just accept the regular re-strip and re-polish.
Right now I'm building cat enclosures and a lot of the fabrication and welding is done in my shop. I suspect welding splatter would leave permanent marks, or how about dragging something heavy like an engine block?
Its pretty soft isn't it? or is it?

I know nothing about this topic so if you have the time to teach me I'd appreciate it.

vinyl composition tile (VCT) is easy to install. you can scribe and break or heat and cut/bend. it is soft and will scratch,melt, and break . wax will hide most scratches. i will have to read the the VCT floor covering section on this forum . i have done alot of commercial office/wharehouse style buildings but do not have too much expierience with VCT in a personal garage floor.
i used to have alot of box's left over of VCT laying around but never got around to doing my garage floor. not something you feel like doing when you get home after being on your knees all week :sad:.
forgot about useing the electric floor buffer, the maintenace crews in the shop's would get the floor's to shine good.
i just came in installed it and left so i never had to deal with the seal,wax or upkeep.
there is alot of different style tile to choose from - http://www.armstrong.com/commflooringna/products/vct
 

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vinyl composition tile (VCT) is easy to install. you can scribe and break or heat and cut/bend. it is soft and will scratch,melt, and break . wax will hide most scratches..............

Thank you for taking the time to explain that all to me. I have enough info now to start researching.
I'd love to think I would be as careful and considerate of the floor as I know Thomas will be, but I know my own shortcomings better than anyone else.
So I'm always better off being honest with myself and designing around my less desirable traits.
Much less stress in the long run.
I know now the look I want, thanks to this thread. Now I just need to adapt it to my needs.
Thank you again.
Jim
 

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Thomas.. you can use "gasket sealer" to keep the screws from backing out, and if you ever need them out they are not hard to remove. Chris did you get the "P.M." I tried to send you?
 

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With all that grease in those wheels and bearings im sure one push and it will end up in Canada.:D
 
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OK, I'm a little behind here but now that Rick's done associating "commercial aviators" with monkeys, Rottweilers, etc (but in a good way right Rick? :dunno:) and admitted he is extremely youthful, I hope to get caught up. :)

To Grandad Jim, a hearty welcome to our corner of the Universe and thank you for taking a few minutes with your thoughtful comments and questions. Garage Journal is a wonderful resource which I'm sure you'll find as helpful as I have.

Jacob found his stepdads Bonneville Salt Flats Belly Tanker, but the car was heavily modified into another Bonneville race car years ago and for all real purposes is now gone and yet it still lives. Go back to page 127, post # 2536 and there are pictures and further information on it.

I loved your story relating screw "setting" and "Job right!" Those are small things that are passed on to us and hopefully we'll pass them on to another generation. Why?, because it's the right thing to do of course.

As for the VCT flooring I don't think it's for you. It does work for me and what I'm doing in my shop however. Everything is a compromise of some sort and it's what I chose to work with. While it's not perfect (Chris is the only thing around here that is perfect ;)) but I can work within it's limitations.

Thank you Jim for your interest and check back on us. We're always up to something diffferent, if not interesting here. :thumbup:

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howdy all :) great picturs and great storys. very nice job on the restore of the 30's garage. love the old look of the building and the new. i have been enjoying the old shop equipment you have been pulling back out of the shed to restore.

i live 10min from pontiac . where does your LCOC club meet at ?. last year at the woodward cruise i seen a lincoln club set up in front of the phoenix center in downtown pontiac. do you come to the woodward cruise in august ? .

Perry

Hello there Perry and welcome to you as well. The LCOC meet will be at the Auburn Hills Marriott Pontiac at Centerpoint. The main concours event is Saturday, July 30th. Open to the public, no admission charge, just come and enjoy some fine old Lincolns and if you find Chris's Mark VIII stop by and introduce yourself please. I don't know if I'll be a judge this year so I might be around as well. Even if I am judging, Chris will be able to direct you to my whereabouts. Don't be shy. :thumbup:

I haven't done the Woodward cruise yet, it's on the to do list. Looks like I'm going to the Bonneville Salt Flats Speed Week this year instead. I'll be going with my good friend and land speed record holder of no small repute, Lou Bingham. I'll keep you posted on THAT one. :bounce:

From my experience with VCT, you are spot on with your comments about it and it's care. It has it's place and I find it to be a very workable solution to the problems I needed to overcome out in the old shop. It's almost 5 years old now and has held up extremely well for me.

Hope to see you and anyone else at the LCOC meet.

Thomas
 
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Thomas.. you can use "gasket sealer" to keep the screws from backing out, and if you ever need them out they are not hard to remove. Chris did you get the "P.M." I tried to send you?

Hey that is a good suggestion. I hadn't thought of that but you're right, that would work well in that situation. Back when the Walker was made they probably didn't have fancy, smasy aids like that so they staked them instead. Thank you sir, for the information.

Thomas
 
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So with the rear casters installed and secure with new axles and bronze bushings plus being extremely well lubricated...

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...we now turn to the front of the jack. That axle just slides into the frame. Note the axle wasn't powder coated where the wheel needle bearings will ride, but was everywhere else.

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It's attached with 2 pins.The one on the left is installed and the one on the right is in 1/2 way. I didn't powder coat them because the clearance is too tight. I'll probably put a little matching Testors blue paint on the heads and call it a day. Don's a great guy and all, but asking him to coat just those heads might have been pushing it. :dunno: They're hidden by the nose cover as it is.

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Next we've got some front wheel needle bearings to clean up first. You can see all the decades old gunk that came off of them. 21 needles as it turns out. 21 balls in the rears and 21 needles in the fronts. You can't say the Walker engineers weren't consistent can you? :) Of course it turns out this jack was missing two needles on the right side and one on the left when I disassembled it. MIA as it were so...

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... replacements were fabricated, seen on the right, original on the left. Since I didn't know if the originals were special harden steel or not and I didn't have any harden steel that approximate size, the new ones were made slightly undersize and really just serve now as spacers. That way they won't be load bearing and won't wear out faster than the others. It's a compromise, but one I think should serve me well.

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Here they are in place at the 12 o'clock position. When they were placed in the wheel for good they were spaced apart and not together as seen here.

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You know what's coming next, LubriPlate...

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and lots of it! The needles were then placed in the wheel one at a time.

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With just the very end of the axle powder coated it will never rust. The wheels are secured by pins, just like the front axle. Over the years these pins get lost and you frequently find the wheels secured by cotter keys. The front wheels do have grease zirks on them, so they can be lubricated from time to time.

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Polishing the wheel "treads" worked out quite well.

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If they stay on the tile floor they should hold up well for me.

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Moving them over concrete will chew them up pretty fast I would imagine. I've got other floor jacks if I need to do that.

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With the wheels installed next came ...

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...the hub caps and then...

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... the nose piece.

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It's starting to shape up finally. All that remains now is reattaching the handle which is a little tricky and then installing the cover plate...next time. Don't go too far. :D

Thomas
 
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With all that grease in those wheels and bearings im sure one push and it will end up in Canada.:D

Honestly, with all that grease everywhere the best way I can describe the feel of it moving is...well, actually it's creamy. Yea, that's what it feels like, creamy. it just oozes along smmoooothly, all 180 pounds of it. :thumbup:

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OK, I'm a little behind here but now that Rick's done associating "commercial aviators" with monkeys, Rottweilers, etc (but in a good way right Rick? :dunno:) and admitted he is extremely youthful, I hope to get caught up. :)
Thomas

Yes, in a good way. LOL!

However, I must now raise another concern....

It looks like you are taking this drag racing thing far too seriously as you appear to have fitted your Walker floorjack with slicks... ;)
 

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Continuing with the WFJRE...
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The large nut on the lifting arm is 1 7/16" (3.7 cm) and I only had one fixed wrench that size. So the large adjustable was pressed into service.
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How is it I was the only one to notice this?
Excuse me, good Sir. How can you possibly justify having only 37 mm fixed wrench?? I will not stand for it, how can you let things slide like this? :rant:

Joe, please join me here and tell this good genleman-pilot-racer-lucky-husbond-loving-father-wonderful-source-of-inspiration-all-in-one-master-of-many-trades why it is MUY IMPORTANTE to have at least six of these. Actually six of every sort of tool??

Yes, i like tools as well :D

On a separate note:
Thomas, please keep up the good work, and please do continue to inspire and entertain us all. From what I read, you bring out a lot of good in a lot of people, and they all seem to energize from what you show off here. You may not notice it, but (without sanctifying you) people of your stature give inspiration and goals for others to work towards!

Nownow, don't go off getting big-headed from this! Chris, will you please make sure of that?


I'm gonna shut up now, and let you get on with more pics from the jack-extravaganza...
Best regards, all the way from Norway

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Next we've got some front wheel needle bearings to clean up first. You can see all the decades old gunk that came off of them. 21 needles as it turns out. 21 balls in the rears and 21 needles in the fronts. You can't say the Walker engineers weren't consistent can you? :) Of course it turns out this jack was missing two needles on the right side and one on the left when I disassembled it. MIA as it were so...

I've noticed this in several pics, but finally I've got to ask... Why the different gloves?

I know... With all that Walker Eye Candy (WEC) ( :drool: ) how can I be looking at gloves?!?!

MM
 

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How is it I was the only one to notice this?
Excuse me, good Sir. How can you possibly justify having only 37 mm fixed wrench?? I will not stand for it, how can you let things slide like this? :rant:

Joe, please join me here and tell this good genleman-pilot-racer-lucky-husbond-loving-father-wonderful-source-of-inspiration-all-in-one-master-of-many-trades why it is MUY IMPORTANTE to have at least six of these. Actually six of every sort of tool??

Yes, i like tools as well :D

On a separate note:
Thomas, please keep up the good work, and please do continue to inspire and entertain us all. From what I read, you bring out a lot of good in a lot of people, and they all seem to energize from what you show off here. You may not notice it, but (without sanctifying you) people of your stature give inspiration and goals for others to work towards!

Nownow, don't go off getting big-headed from this! Chris, will you please make sure of that?


I'm gonna shut up now, and let you get on with more pics from the jack-extravaganza...
Best regards, all the way from Norway

Theodor

Tools!!!! That count sounds good to me...

Famous Quotes...

Question: How many tools can one man Own???
Answer: Don't ask stupid questions!!

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Probably so he can tell his left hand from his right hand!

(Sorry, but someone had to say it).

Lane
LOL! Knew a pilot in the UK who wore one red shoe (port) & one green shoe (starboard)

Getting back to the jack... & not wanting to search through the entire thread....

Has anyone suggested putting *tires* on the metal wheels? You make them by cutting loops from old innertubes....


Probably find out I already suggested it 10 pages back now.. :(
 

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ZRX61 said "Has anyone suggested putting *tires* on the metal wheels? You make them by cutting loops from old innertubes....


Probably find out I already suggested it 10 pages back now.."

Oh No, Holy Cow Batman! Another question for Miss Chris to put on the Test!
 

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That's a totally crazy thought! After all his hard work, that jack won't leave the property, ever. (Some of you may have noticed that we seem to have a problem with not getting rid of anything easily.)

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How is it I was the only one to notice this?
Excuse me, good Sir. How can you possibly justify having only 37 mm fixed wrench?? I will not stand for it, how can you let things slide like this? :rant:

Joe, please join me here and tell this good genleman-pilot-racer-lucky-husbond-loving-father-wonderful-source-of-inspiration-all-in-one-master-of-many-trades why it is MUY IMPORTANTE to have at least six of these. Actually six of every sort of tool??

Yes, i like tools as well :D

On a separate note:
Thomas, please keep up the good work, and please do continue to inspire and entertain us all. From what I read, you bring out a lot of good in a lot of people, and they all seem to energize from what you show off here. You may not notice it, but (without sanctifying you) people of your stature give inspiration and goals for others to work towards!

Nownow, don't go off getting big-headed from this! Chris, will you please make sure of that?


I'm gonna shut up now, and let you get on with more pics from the jack-extravaganza...
Best regards, all the way from Norway

Theodor

Theodor, good sir. You have my sincere thanks for reinforcing what I've been telling Chris for years and years. "Six- sweetheart, six; to do this correctly I'll need six of all these tools.... No I don't know why, but that's just how it's always been done" :dunno: You know how spouses will listen to strangers but not to you? So now that it's out in the open this should settle this once and for all I would think! :D

Truth be told I don't have all that much "big iron". Just never have much need for it unlike Mr Johnson. So I've got enough to get by with, but on occasion..................More anvils Chris, we just have to have more anvils I'm telling you!! Listen to what our good friend Theodor says and trust him on this!

Oh, BTW around these parts " this good genleman-pilot-racer-lucky-husbond-loving-father-wonderful-source-of-inspiration-all-in-one-master-of-many-trades " is GGPRLHLFWSOIAIOMOMT. How's that pronounced in Norwegian??

Thanks Theodor again for a great day brightener and you never need worry about me getting a big head. Chris always makes sure of that! :)

Thomas
 
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