40x40 2 Story Garage

[YZ Rider]

This is our 40x40 2 story garage build. Our previous garage was an 1850's barn with a 3 car garage addition. Construction of the new building first started about 2 weeks ago. If things keep going the way it is, the building should be totally completed by the end of the month

Our old barn/garage

The original structure was just a simple 2 story horse barn, the addition was added on about 30-40 years ago and was a simple Lean-to sort of a garage.

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Previous Garage, View from one drive-way

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View from same drive-way just further down.

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Heres an inside view of where my workshop used to be.

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Another view, just from the third bay.

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Now, the new Garage! Its totally framed out and the roof is on.

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View from our second drive-way

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Inside view of garage.

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Basically here is going to be my workshop, where I can have everything in one place, unlike before where I had no room. Finally I can have voltage over 110v

You can see where the stairs is going to be.

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As you come up the stairs this is roughly going to see;

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There's going to be 2 bedrooms, both are going to have closets. There's going to be a bathroom with a shower, and a big common room, where you can just hang out and relax.


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If you look you can see our service shop.

Just another view, from across the street.

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I'm excited to hear what you guys have to say and the ideas you can give me
I'll keep updating this as construction continues and if anything changes.
Jake

 

[YZ Rider]

Can anyone else see the pictures?

 

[werfitter40]

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YZ Rider,

On ImageShack website, use the "Embed this image / Forum" option, on the RH side of screen.

 

[YZ Rider]

Thanks, I Re-Upped with photobucket though.
EDIT: **** photobucket and their bandwith limits

 

[YZ Rider]

Been too busy lately to update, but heres some pics from 3 days ago:

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I'll update more pics later tonight!

 

[veedubman91]

i can see all the pics. looks great, cannot wait for more progress

 

[YZ Rider]

i can see all the pics. looks great, cannot wait for more progress

Thanks for the nice words, I really appreciate it.

Here's some pictures from today: Outside view from our driveway.

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View from the double bay,

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Inside in one corner, You can see we're making a storage room for our AC, Garbage, and Air compressor.

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Upstairs: We got the shower in and plumed up, all the AC vents in, ect

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Hope you guys enjoy

 

[Don AJ]

Looks like an awesome place!
More pics as the progress comes along please!

 

[Bib Overalls]

Will you have cooking facilities in the "lounging" area? Some building codes prohibit kitchens in detached guest quarters because that would make them "apartments."

 

[YZ Rider]

Will you have cooking facilities in the "lounging" area? Some building codes prohibit kitchens in detached guest quarters because that would make them "apartments."

Yeah we will, We haven't run into any problems as far its going to be up to code, no one said anything yet.

 

[Neuswede]

Yeah we will, We haven't run into any problems as far its going to be up to code, no one said anything yet.

Did you submit any kitchen details when you applied for your permit? I'm just over in Lebanon County, which has much less stringent requirements than in most parts of Lancaster County,( and a major reason why we moved here) but kitchens are a definite no-no in most municipalities around here unless you are zoned for multi-family and can comply with living spaces requirements over a garage.

In my build, they specifically asked what my intentions were for living space. As long as I have no stove, all is cool. Refrigerator, bar, microwave, coffee pot are all cool...stove, not so cool and kiss your permit good-bye.

Check out your local ordinances, available from the borough office or maybe on-line. The only way to know for certain, is to actually know for certain.

Nice build...looking good. Mine still has a long way to go...

 

[YZ Rider]

Did you submit any kitchen details when you applied for your permit? I'm just over in Lebanon County, which has much less stringent requirements than in most parts of Lancaster County,( and a major reason why we moved here) but kitchens are a definite no-no in most municipalities around here unless you are zoned for multi-family and can comply with living spaces requirements over a garage.

In my build, they specifically asked what my intentions were for living space. As long as I have no stove, all is cool. Refrigerator, bar, microwave, coffee pot are all cool...stove, not so cool and kiss your permit good-bye.

Check out your local ordinances, available from the borough office or maybe on-line. The only way to know for certain, is to actually know for certain.

Nice build...looking good. Mine still has a long way to go...

In Our plans we didn't include any plans for a kitchen, but we will be adding a kitchen quarters later down the road to avoid any issues.
Thanks for the nice words, and hope you enjoy my build

 

[YZ Rider]

Now we're just waiting for the electrician to come to wire the place up!
In the meantime I got a few random pictures and questions:

The stairs have been delivered yesterday, no work has been done today

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Under the stairs, storage area: Any idea how to shelf this area out and make this space usable?

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Another question: Has anyone/ or is possible to use a trolley on our support beam?

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Hope I'm not boring anyone with all these pictures!

 

[Square2.0]

hell no.... the more the better. Very cool place. Mind if i ask how much it set you back? you doing the work your self or hiring it all out or some kind of mix of both. you finishing it off inside or just leaving it like this?

 

[Neuswede]

In Our plans we didn't include any plans for a kitchen, but we will be adding a kitchen quarters later down the road to avoid any issues.
Thanks for the nice words, and hope you enjoy my build

Be careful...especially before you spend any money on the kitchen. Just by doing it later after you have your final inspection and occupancy permit won't get you around any potential problems down the road. They can require you to remove anything not to code if you do it outside of the ordinances or without a permit.

here's a link to the borough ordinances: http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/lititz/cwp/browse.asp?a=725&PM=1&lititzNav=|8134|

It looks like the borough will only allow accessory apartments in principal buildings, but no provision for them in accessory buildings, which may mean you would need to apply for an exception for use.

I also found it particularly interesting about your setback requirements, height restriction of 20 ft and limit of only 3 cars...I didn't know they went that far with the restrictions there. A friend of mine down the road from you is considering a build, but his plans may need to be cut back to comply now that I found this.

Good luck with that.

Marc

 

[YZ Rider]

Be careful...especially before you spend any money on the kitchen. Just by doing it later after you have your final inspection and occupancy permit won't get you around any potential problems down the road. They can require you to remove anything not to code if you do it outside of the ordinances or without a permit.

here's a link to the borough ordinances: http://www.co.lancaster.pa.us/lititz/cwp/browse.asp?a=725&PM=1&lititzNav=|8134|

It looks like the borough will only allow accessory apartments in principal buildings, but no provision for them in accessory buildings, which may mean you would need to apply for an exception for use.

I also found it particularly interesting about your setback requirements, height restriction of 20 ft and limit of only 3 cars...I didn't know they went that far with the restrictions there. A friend of mine down the road from you is considering a build, but his plans may need to be cut back to comply now that I found this.

Good luck with that.

Marc

Our building requirements didn't require us to do anything, we chose all of building's features, the reason we set the building back as far as we did is because there was a really bad blind spot when you came down the road. You had no visibility when backing out of one drive way, so you would have to listen for cars comming

As far as the kitchen issue we're going to talk to our contractor regarding that.

Jake

 

[Neuswede]

Our building requirements didn't require us to do anything, we chose all of building's features, the reason we set the building back as far as we did is because there was a really bad blind spot when you came down the road. You had no visibility when backing out of one drive way, so you would have to listen for cars comming

As far as the kitchen issue we're going to talk to our contractor regarding that.

Jake

Jake:

Agreed. There are far too many places like that around here. It's surprising that there aren't more accidents because of it.

Hopefully your contractor can get the right answer so you know in advance what you can do.

Keep posting up the pics...it's looking good. My foundation is in, but I have a long way to go to catch up with you.

Marc

 

[YZ Rider]

Finally got some progress today!! The eletricians who came today totally kicked *** They're not done yet, they have to come back to wire 220v circuits.

Here's the pics !!
Some upstairs pics of electrical

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Theres really no point in taking pictures of outlets in the garage so I didnt.

And the reason I'm Using Flickr is because I exceeded my bandwith with photobucket

 

[YZ Rider]

Did you submit any kitchen details when you applied for your permit? I'm just over in Lebanon County, which has much less stringent requirements than in most parts of Lancaster County,( and a major reason why we moved here) but kitchens are a definite no-no in most municipalities around here unless you are zoned for multi-family and can comply with living spaces requirements over a garage.

In my build, they specifically asked what my intentions were for living space. As long as I have no stove, all is cool. Refrigerator, bar, microwave, coffee pot are all cool...stove, not so cool and kiss your permit good-bye.

Check out your local ordinances, available from the borough office or maybe on-line. The only way to know for certain, is to actually know for certain.

Nice build...looking good. Mine still has a long way to go...

As far as the kitchen space is going, we talked to our inspector about it today, and he said you not supposed to have a stove, but as long as there's no stove here when he sees it, all will be fine.

 

[64dragnwagon]

What kind of use do you have planned for the upstairs? Just a place to have guest over and hang out or for permanent living quarters? Nice place, I would build something like this to live in but the wife wouldn't approve Therefore my garage is currently as gid as my house.

 

[YZ Rider]

What kind of use do you have planned for the upstairs? Just a place to have guest over and hang out or for permanent living quarters? Nice place, I would build something like this to live in but the wife wouldn't approve Therefore my garage is currently as gid as my house.

Yes it will be for permanent living, It will be me and my fathers "man cave" while we leave the house for the girls. Its coming along very quick, and our contractor said drywall should be done on friday! Now we just wait and see

 

[Neuswede]

As far as the kitchen space is going, we talked to our inspector about it today, and he said you not supposed to have a stove, but as long as there's no stove here when he sees it, all will be fine.

that's good news...one less thing to worry about for the final inspection. looking good, Jake.

 

[YZ Rider]

Here's some more pictures... Stairs went up today, went to look at cabinets, countertops, ect. More ductwork done. For some reason the electrician didn't come today, so the wiring isn't completely done, but almost. Dry wall is supposed to start tomorrow.

Ducts:

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Siding has been delivered, lots of misc items for heating and AC:

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Upstairs kitchen area, the framed out area is for the part of the counter that will be raised above the cooking area or whatever you call it.

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Just to give a size comparison of how large 40x40 actually is compared to the house:

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Hope you guys enjoy!

 

[Neuswede]

looking good, Jake. really taking shape.

 

[YZ Rider]

looking good, Jake. really taking shape.

Thanks, How's your's coming along?

In the meantime, I got some pictures, Drywall didn't start today, and frankly I didn't expect it to get done today with this heat wave....104 Degree weather takes it all out of you.

Outside shot:

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Another outside shot down one driveway:

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Insulation is done, duct work is done, ect

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Dry wall was delivered today.

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Storage room/ boiler room

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Upstairs

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Come on guys! Comment all you want!

 

[Neuswede]

This heat is slowing everyone down, but looks like you're making progress. I worked half days today and yesterday due to the heat. Will work a few hours on Sat. too, as we do get some shade in the early morning. We have 13 courses of block up on the back wall, and 6 up on the sides so far. Had my wall inspection this afternoon and all went well. Inspector was checking the core fill and rebar locations. I have lots ore pics to post this weekend to catch up on my thread. Very interested in watching yours, too.

Marc

 

[YZ Rider]

This heat is slowing everyone down, but looks like you're making progress. I worked half days today and yesterday due to the heat. Will work a few hours on Sat. too, as we do get some shade in the early morning. We have 13 courses of block up on the back wall, and 6 up on the sides so far. Had my wall inspection this afternoon and all went well. Inspector was checking the core fill and rebar locations. I have lots ore pics to post this weekend to catch up on my thread. Very interested in watching yours, too.

Marc

Yeah, I really cant wait for this heat to pass... Everyone has been getting off early, but I'm not enjoying it. I go nuts from sitting inside for too long, doing nothing. And glad to hear that everything is going well with yours, Once you see your garage start to take shape the anticipation for it to get done will kill you!

 

[Neuswede]

Yeah, I really cant wait for this heat to pass... Everyone has been getting off early, but I'm not enjoying it. I go nuts from sitting inside for too long, doing nothing. And glad to hear that everything is going well with yours, Once you see your garage start to take shape the anticipation for it to get done will kill you!

Mine has been 18 months of planning and waiting as we did work on the house. Wife said this was it...let's get it done, so you don't have to ask me twice. We've taken it a little easy this week because of the heat, but still making progress.

Marc

 

[theroyz71]

Awesome looking garage. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

[YZ Rider]

Awesome looking garage. Can't wait to see it finished.

Yeah I'm saying the same thing myself

 

[YZ Rider]

Now we got some progress, Drywall was hung today. A LOT OF DRYWALL.....
Quality isn't the best because it was raining, and dark out.

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So close to being finished but so much to do at the same time. I'm hoping this heat wave PA is suffering from has passed with this rain we had.

Enjoy and any questions are welcome!

 

[more_gj]

What was your budget? It is turning out very nice. Am planning something similar but 30x30 probably.

 

[red]

"Come on guys! Comment all you want!"
YZ Rider

Guess we're just speechless
Impressive work especially with this heat! Looks Great!

As to using that steel beam for a trolley you will need to do some engineering work as to it's current load and the additional load you'll be using it for. Not an engineer, but my "guess" would be no. Keep the pictures coming!

 

[YZ Rider]

"Come on guys! Comment all you want!"
YZ Rider

Guess we're just speechless
Impressive work especially with this heat! Looks Great!

As to using that steel beam for a trolley you will need to do some engineering work as to it's current load and the additional load you'll be using it for. Not an engineer, but my "guess" would be no. Keep the pictures coming!

Yeah, that idea for using a trolley was scrapped since we drywalled over it. We're mudding today so I'll get pictures on how that goes.

 

[YZ Rider]

What was your budget? It is turning out very nice. Am planning something similar but 30x30 probably.

I Really don't know since it's an ongoing project, Always something to do.
After we get done I'll try to get a total posted

 

[YZ Rider]

Nothing that I hate more than drywall. I just hate it, and don't get me started on mudding It takes too long for my liking.

Got the Pictures like I said:
And.... Pallets of Stone was delivered to go along the base of the building.

 

[Neuswede]

Nothing that I hate more than drywall. I just hate it, and don't get me started on mudding It takes too long for my liking.

Got the Pictures like I said:
And.... Pallets of Stone was delivered to go along the base of the building.

Agreed...drywall is my least favorite mainly because of the dust. I don't mind doing the board, corner bead, taping or mudding, but the dust is awful. Interesting that they ran the joints vertically on the first floor and correctly on the horizontal on the second floor. Vertical joints are much too much work.

Definitely making progress....great build.

 

[40 grey]

Looks great, really impressive. Funny, this is what I have been trying to convince myself to build for a while(mans perfect house!). By the way, I am originally from Lititz, Grandmother is still there and Dad lives in New Holland. I miss it but I can tolerate where I am as well.

 

[YZ Rider]

Got more progress on the drywall. Didn't take any pictures yesterday, work wiped me out.
And Here's the pics: More drywall today.... The rain gutters came today and got put up, Just in time too, right after they left it started raining.

 

[YZ Rider]

Found some pictures that show the old barn, know I have more but I have to find them When we bought the house 15 years ago it was a total POS, Granted that its a 1860's Farmhouse. One of our friends working on it with us fell through the floor Our main focus then was the house, we didn't even think about the barn until it the damage was done. Rotted beams, leaking roof, and open to the elements. These pictures don't tell too much but it's all I had on my hard drive. Most of it was after most of the major work was done.