Above 1200 Sq/FT Restored 1930's Auto Shop

[realvc]

Thanks Rick. I'll try to take a better look at it tomorrow and actually open it. The size of the spring fits that lower slide nicely so my assumption is it's from the factory, but it doesn't appear to be a very strong spring. Maybe tomorrow that answer will spring out at me. Get it, spring out......... Sometime I just kill myself.......I've got a million of them.......

Thomas

Then again it "May" take you until next "Spring" to have it spring into your mind as why a spring would be in a vise.

 

[BB767]

Instead of hijacking your thread with a bunch of pictures of another shop, I made a new thread, enjoy!

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1931298#post1931298

Charles, well done! Much the same as Mr Johnson's shop. To you and me, unorganized and chaotic, to Don and Mr Johnson their shops all made perfect sense. I had a chance to look at your post briefly and will do a more extensive look later as I'm out the door for some more tool shed explorations. Sunny and dry here right now.

Thank you for taking the effort to post those terrific photographs.

Thomas

 

[Vernmotor]

The spring..does the outer jaw tip a little.. so when you put something in the vise..the spring keep a little pressure on it to hold it in place till you tighten it up ?

 

[BB767]

Really awesome man.... i do not know where you find the time to do all this,greetings from the Netherlands.

Greetings and thank you to you Sunbimmer. Is your user name connected at all with BMW's? Some folks refer to them as "Beemers" (cars?) and some "Bimmers"(motorcycles?) didn't know if there was any connection.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

I continued to be enthralled by this thread. Old cars, old tools...I hope it never ends. I hope future generations will continue the legacy to appreciate everything from a historical moment in our history that contributed so much to what made this country great.

Keep up the good work. I'm working right beside you in my own little corner

Hello again Red Leader. You are doing your part with your fabulous shop to show what can be done with older tools and equipment. It's all extremely well done. As long as there are a few folks showing the possibilities I'm confident future generations will pick up where we left off.

I was out in the honey house today and recovered a nice 1920's/30's Chrysler center instrument panel among some other items. There is still some much material out there so I've a ways to go yet. You keep up the good work as well. Your shop keeps looking better every time I check your 1950's Craftsman Garage thread. BTW I know you've got a Craftsman equipment theme going but that Delta jointer is a nice piece. All my smaller equipment is Delta and I'm a little partial to them. Overall though your shop is, Outstanding!

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103099

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Then again it "May" take you until next "Spring" to have it spring into your mind as why a spring would be in a vise.

Touche'

Thomas

 

[caspian65]

Charles, well done! Much the same as Mr Johnson's shop. To you and me, unorganized and chaotic, to Don and Mr Johnson their shops all made perfect sense. I had a chance to look at your post briefly and will do a more extensive look later as I'm out the door for some more tool shed explorations. Sunny and dry here right now.

Thank you for taking the effort to post those terrific photographs.

Thomas

Glad to share, much like you are with your journey restoring Mr. Johnson's shop!

Maybe I need to take a trip to the fire station to take some pics and find out what the family plans to do with Don's old stuff.

-Charles

 

[BB767]

Glad to share, much like you are with your journey restoring Mr. Johnson's shop!

Maybe I need to take a trip to the fire station to take some pics and find out what the family plans to do with Don's old stuff.

-Charles

Without question you should do that Charles. They might need a helping hand sorting everything out. I rather got the feeling that Mr Johnson's family was grateful not to have to deal with cleaning up the shop, the property and have to make all those decisions.

Some follow up pictures would be great if you can manage them. Maybe his daughter is ready to part with the MG? Keep us posted.

Thomas

 

[Omphaloskeptic]

Thomas, I went over the ebay to look at the W.W.W. (Wonderful Willys Wrecker), and it was sold! Did you succumb to temptation and buy it as a stablemate for Gus?

 

[BB767]

Thomas, I went over the ebay to look at the W.W.W. (Wonderful Willys Wrecker), and it was sold! Did you succumb to temptation and buy it as a stablemate for Gus?

It really would have been fun to have that W.W.W. wouldn't it, but no, I passed hard as that might be to believe. It sold for $11,500 to someone in Ohio I think and I doubt I'll ever see the likes of that again anytime soon. The timing on that coming up for sale was interesting.

While I'm on here I've a question for all the diehard Chrysler folks out there. While I was in the tool shed, cleaning and sorting I got a decent look at a complete Chrysler engine lurking in the back.

I don't know all that much about Chrysler products but I'm guessing it's a 318 judging from the small 2 barrel carburetor.

It's been in the tool shed a long time since it's in the back (over 30 years probably) Looks fairly complete, just a missing distributor from a cursory glance. I'm going to guess it was removed from a car that had other problems and was stored to be used at a future date which never happened. I'm looking for suggestions as to what to do with it. My feeling is it has no value except for recycling. Don't know if any parts like the bell housing and such would be useful to anyone. The Chevrolet engines I've found out there I've been able to decode all the data about them from Alvin Colvin's books but have no knowledge of a Chrysler equivalent. So before I add it and a couple of Chevrolet short block engines (both 1961, 283 C.I.D. 170 hp powder glide engines -nothing special) to the more than 58 tons recycled from the shop anyone have some thoughts on the subject?

Thomas

 

[Amitygravel]

Hello Thomas !
I'm running late for work, but I will get in touch with you about that 318.

Craig

 

[hardly]

Judging from the small carb, minimal pcv stuff and large stick bellhousing, I would say its more likely from a Dodge truck or pickup, mid to late 60's.......

(Have also enjoyed your "time warp" thread. Hats off to you for your sweat equity!)

 

[charlief1]

It's possible that it's a truck engine or even a 273. Before you send it to the scrap pile I'd suggest that you offer all the engines up as cores locally.The older engines are getting hard to find now and someone may be looking for one for a project. Since I'm a Buick guy I know how hard it is just to find a Buick 350 now much less a 455. The older engines like a 300 and 340 Buick are near impossible to find.

 

[islandkent]

Thomas, The engine size should be stamped on the passenger side of the engine just under the exhaust manifold. Should be easy to see. The year is also there or on the drivers side same spot more or less.

 

[american3.14guy]

Nice job on the restoration. The "organizationally challenged" interior reminds me of a guy back home from when I was a kid. His motto was "If you need it, I have it. If I can't find it, you don't need it." Very neat shop for the cars.

 

[BB767]

Hello Thomas !
I'm running late for work, but I will get in touch with you about that 318.

Craig

Take your time Craig. I'm bouncing between NYC and Sao Paulo at the moment so it's not going anywhere soon. Tell your daughter I've got a new pile of rocks for her to get dirty on when you guys come for your next visit.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Judging from the small carb, minimal pcv stuff and large stick bellhousing, I would say its more likely from a Dodge truck or pickup, mid to late 60's.......

(Have also enjoyed your "time warp" thread. Hats off to you for your sweat equity!)

It's possible that it's a truck engine or even a 273. Before you send it to the scrap pile I'd suggest that you offer all the engines up as cores locally.The older engines are getting hard to find now and someone may be looking for one for a project. Since I'm a Buick guy I know how hard it is just to find a Buick 350 now much less a 455. The older engines like a 300 and 340 Buick are near impossible to find.

Thomas, The engine size should be stamped on the passenger side of the engine just under the exhaust manifold. Should be easy to see. The year is also there or on the drivers side same spot more or less.

Thanks hardly, I hadn't thought about a truck engine but I did think that was a manual bell housing. When I first started to uncover the engine all I could see was that bell housing 6 years ago on my first exploration of the tool shed. I was hoping it would be connected to a Hemi and thinking "oh ya, come to Papa!" Hey, it can't hurt to dream can it? Glad you're enjoying my little "time warp" adventure. Flying is fun but I usually can't wait till I can get back out to the shop. Everyday is sometime different and most times FUN! As per islandkent, I'll take a look and see what I can I.D. on it when I get home. The drivers side is against the wall so I may not be able to decipher the year until I move it, but I thought mid to late sixties due to it's buried position in the tool shed.

charlief1 you're right, it can't hurt to see if it might be just what someone needs for a project. It already turns out one of the small block Chevys would be useful to the Corvette folks since it's a Flint block made in 1960-61 with a "D" stamping on the engine pad. I guess there was a reason it was stored inside all those years ago.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Nice job on the restoration. The "organizationally challenged" interior reminds me of a guy back home from when I was a kid. His motto was "If you need it, I have it. If I can't find it, you don't need it." Very neat shop for the cars.

american3.14guy someone ought to print up a sign with that on it, "If you need it, I have it. If I can't find it, you don't need it." That's a great slogan. Thank you for sharing that with us!

Shortly after I bought the shop a fellow stopped by and drew out a triangle with DONE RIGHT at the top and below it on one side was FAST and on the other side was CHEAP . He said you can pick any two and have them, but you can't have all three. I bet over the years there have been lots of sayings along those lines. Might be fun to compile an old school list of them.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Here's a couple more items for everyone, two transmissions resting out in the tool shed. First an older one...

The bell housing reminds me of the one on the Terraplane...

...the way it's not solid, but segmented. Was that a characteristic of 1930's bell housings? The other transmission...

...appears more modern but I'm not familiar with it. Since they were removed and stored inside I suspect they're in good working order, just dirty and probably need minimal servicing. Any thoughts out there with our brain trust as to where I should look to I.D. them or perhaps what they are? Thanks everyone.

Thomas

 

[charlief1]

The first ****** almost looks like one of the first overdrive trannys Thomas. Is that a soliniod on the top perhaps? GM and Chrysler used them and they were made by borg warner. If I remember right they were made from the late 50's to the mid 60's or maybe a little later.

 

[BigAl62]

The second trans looks like a Ford top loader (the innards went in through the top removable plate). If it is, they are very strong and in demand for high performance Fords. It looks like it may have come out of a 4 wheel drive as it doesn't have a tailshaft.

 

[tdkkart]

The second trans looks like a Ford top loader (the innards went in through the top removable plate). If it is, they are very strong and in demand for high performance Fords. It looks like it may have come out of a 4 wheel drive as it doesn't have a tailshaft.

It may be a "top loader" but it's a 3 speed, Which are a dime a dozen. Based on the high mounted starter location, looks like it came off a 6-cylinder.

 

[BB767]

It may be a "top loader" but it's a 3 speed, Which are a dime a dozen. Based on the high mounted starter location, looks like it came off a 6-cylinder.

Is that the same as telling me someone restoring a Cobra wouldn't want it??

Thanks tdkkart.

Thomas

 

[BigDaddyUSMC]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks

 

[BigAl62]

It may be a "top loader" but it's a 3 speed, Which are a dime a dozen. Based on the high mounted starter location, looks like it came off a 6-cylinder.

You're right, I didn't look close enough, so I went back and yup, high starter mount and only 2 shifter links. (after I saw the top loader plate I was off and running! )

 

[Lou's Garage]

IIRC, that rear mount is from an Econline.

Lou

 

[BB767]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks

Terrific Charles, it looks just as I envisioned it would (actually better), only I saw it sitting on my restored flat head V8! Tell Jacob hello for me and nice job with the manifold. No question it went to the rightful custodian of it. He's done his step dad Al and the Restored 1930's Auto Shop proud!! Thank you for posting that picture. I plan on seeing you guys at Bonneville next year....with your new car.

Thomas

 

[charlief1]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks

I don't know about anyone else but that's just ****! No wonder I never got married.

 

[Superlifted06FX4]

It really would have been fun to have that W.W.W. wouldn't it, but no, I passed hard as that might be to believe. It sold for $11,500 to someone in Ohio I think and I doubt I'll ever see the likes of that again anytime soon. The timing on that coming up for sale was interesting.

While I'm on here I've a question for all the diehard Chrysler folks out there. While I was in the tool shed, cleaning and sorting I got a decent look at a complete Chrysler engine lurking in the back.

I don't know all that much about Chrysler products but I'm guessing it's a 318 judging from the small 2 barrel carburetor.

It's been in the tool shed a long time since it's in the back (over 30 years probably) Looks fairly complete, just a missing distributor from a cursory glance. I'm going to guess it was removed from a car that had other problems and was stored to be used at a future date which never happened. I'm looking for suggestions as to what to do with it. My feeling is it has no value except for recycling. Don't know if any parts like the bell housing and such would be useful to anyone. The Chevrolet engines I've found out there I've been able to decode all the data about them from Alvin Colvin's books but have no knowledge of a Chrysler equivalent. So before I add it and a couple of Chevrolet short block engines (both 1961, 283 C.I.D. 170 hp powder glide engines -nothing special) to the more than 58 tons recycled from the shop anyone have some thoughts on the subject?

Thomas

I'll come get it! I've been lookin for an engine to rebuild, I need to learn how one day, lol. You could always donate engines and transmissions to my school, we need em. Plus, any excuse to get a chance to see your amazing shop....

 

[cc 51]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks

Another piece of American history saved from the scrap pile. Outstanding Job!

 

[BigDaddyUSMC]

Thomas
Found this photo on HOT ROD Magazine online,See anyone you know ????
Mike Bloom said it made HOT ROD MAGAZINE....

 

[Superlifted06FX4]

What other engines/transmissions did you find?

 

[BB767]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks...

Hey Charles just for a fun flashback, this is the manifold when I found it...

And look at it now.

Who would have thought after finding it in here...

I knew there was a reason I pretty much went through everything by hand when I started to clean out the shop and all the surrounding buildings. Think about the 58 tons that was sorted and recycled and then all the tons of "stuff" that wasn't recycled. And as Joe keeps reminding me there is still more material out there that I'm slowly going through. Diamonds in the rough as they say.

Boy did Jacob do a great job with it!!

Thomas

 

[BB767]

I don't know about anyone else but that's just ****! No wonder I never got married.

charlief1, I AM married, very happily, and I find it ****!! Chris understands.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

I'll come get it! I've been lookin for an engine to rebuild, I need to learn how one day, lol. You could always donate engines and transmissions to my school, we need em. Plus, any excuse to get a chance to see your amazing shop....

What other engines/transmissions did you find?

Superlifted06FX4, shoot me a PM and we can discuss it. It doesn't really cost any more to do a useful engine as one that isn't, so let me make sure what it is and that you can use it when it's done. I'm still doing my commercial aviator duties , but I should be home soon enough.

Anything your school can use I'd be honored to donate, but I suspect most most of what's left is too old to be of much instructional use.

You'd always be welcome to tour the shop. I drag race at Morocco so I think you're about 2 1/2 hours from "The Center of The Universe". Road Trip!!

Thomas

 

[BB767]

Thomas
Found this photo on HOT ROD Magazine online,See anyone you know ????
Mike Bloom said it made HOT ROD MAGAZINE....

Charles that photo was in Hot Rod Magazine, that's where I saw it and who could miss you? What I want to know is how did you, Fred and some of your crew manage to get front and center? Lou and I were the first ones there at the drivers meeting before anyone else had shown up. Don't know if you can recognize Lou and myself over your left shoulder at about your 2-3 o'clock, two rows behind, still wearing that goofy smile of mine.

We got there early so I could get some pictures of Fred's car and the trophy's ...

...before there was a crowd around them.

Thomas

 

[BB767]

For any of you AG folks, I found these two John Deere what I think might be wrenches (?)...

...that will need a new home. As you can see one has be repaired but I suspect it could be cosmetically enhanced.

Before they go to some deserving person, you need to tell me what they're for? They show part # JD 22 and JD 26.

Thomas

 

[little jimmy]

They are called pitman straps. They are for a old sickle mower. It is what attached the sickle to the power so that it moved back and forth. If I remember correctly they were a source of much swearing and frustration. I was really young when Dad was working with type of mower putting up native grass for hay. It brought back some good memories thanks a bunch!

 

[hobbitss]

Y MANIFOLD GANG

Thomas
I went to Jacobs house today & got to see the finished version of the Al Jerauld Manifold
with two 97 Strrombergs & chrome stacks...

Hey Charles just for a fun flashback, this is the manifold when I found it...

And look at it now.

Who would have thought after finding it in here...

I knew there was a reason I pretty much went through everything by hand when I started to clean out the shop and all the surrounding buildings. Think about the 58 tons that was sorted and recycled and then all the tons of "stuff" that wasn't recycled. And as Joe keeps reminding me there is still more material out there that I'm slowly going through. Diamonds in the rough as they say.

Boy did Jacob do a great job with it!!

Thomas

The Tool Shed!!!

That tricycle might be a collectable... You need to contact those Guys on American Pickers...

 

[BB767]

The Tool Shed!!!

That tricycle might be a collectable... You need to contact those Guys on American Pickers...

Joe, there are 2 tricycles in there but one of them belongs to Dickie M. Remember his Dad dropped it off at the shop about 45 years ago to be repaired and it was either never done or he never picked it up. Either way, I'm holding on to both till Dickie comes and tells me which one is his. I see him every so often and he keeps telling me he'll come over and get it. He can see the shop from his front door as his farm is only about a mile away.

From this sign that was in the lift room I'll be able to charge him a arm and a leg for storage fees of that trike if it turns out it was fixed and never picked up!! Just one more way I can finance this whole restoration project.

BTW Dickie, if you're still reading this thread, when you come to pick your trike up...............bring your check book!

Thomas