monster beam . How to get it up?
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ddawg16
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That was sort of how I did the 7x16x 20' long PSL beam for my garage......
The material lift would have been a lot easier....
I spent a good 2-3 hours just getting things set up....It took less than 30 min to go rent the material lift....and it would have been a lot faster to actually lift the beam.
Riverside
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I have lifted two similar-sized beams using the incremental approach described by a couple of others here. I placed a pair of posts near each end (attached to the joists overhead) with holes every 6" to put pipes through as I progressively raised each end with a hydraulic jack. I had one helper, just for safety. It worked, but in retrospect, the material lift (or some other rented equipment) looks like a quicker approach for a reasonable price. In my case though, I may not have had the overhead room for such equipment.
I would not want to be friends with anyone who thinks it would be a good idea to have friends on step ladders manually lift something this heavy!
I would not want to be friends with anyone who thinks it would be a good idea to have friends on step ladders manually lift something this heavy!
stafford
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I set a beam once that was way too heavy for 2 men to put up, I used 2 pump jacks and jacked it right in place in a few minutes. It wasn't as heavy as yours but worked like a champ. It might work for you if you know someone that has a couple pump jacks you could borrow.
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theoldwizard1
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That was sort of how I did the 7x16x 20' long PSL beam for my garage......
HOLY **** !
What do you have above that, a pen for a couple of elephants ?
tcianci
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Like a few others have said... BUILD IT IN PLACE. That's the beauty of the design you have.
I think you will find the individual pieces will be very manageable. 2 years ago me and 3 other guys put a 26' x 16" x 7" beam into an attic. This beam was 4 ply. We walked one lam at a time up a couple of ladders, slid it over to a guy on the roof (hip roof, we had to cut a hole in it to get to the attic). Once one end was into the roof, we sent one of the guys in the attic to guide it as we pushed it in. The whole assembly was bolted together in place once it was in the attic.
I think you will find the individual pieces will be very manageable. 2 years ago me and 3 other guys put a 26' x 16" x 7" beam into an attic. This beam was 4 ply. We walked one lam at a time up a couple of ladders, slid it over to a guy on the roof (hip roof, we had to cut a hole in it to get to the attic). Once one end was into the roof, we sent one of the guys in the attic to guide it as we pushed it in. The whole assembly was bolted together in place once it was in the attic.
I saw this video years ago...Since then we've applied the same principle to raise quite a few heavy steel beams inside some tight interior spaces....safely and with a minimum amount of labor. 2 "ladders" can be built in the place in place of cribbing and then stacking additional 2x material alternately on each "lift". Teetering the beam back from each end requires very little effort.
Justanoldguy
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stinkity stoink
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I am now trying to get the architect to speck out a steel I beam. I think it will be cheaper and faster. It would be 1 beam that I don't have to bolt together and assemble. As opposed to dealing with 5 smaller beams.
I checked around and there is a place close by that has the material lifts. It would cost me about $150 for the day for 2 of them. I think I will go that route being I have another large beam that I have to put up just not as big as that one. I could get them both done easily.
Thanks for all the awesome replys!!!
I checked around and there is a place close by that has the material lifts. It would cost me about $150 for the day for 2 of them. I think I will go that route being I have another large beam that I have to put up just not as big as that one. I could get them both done easily.
Thanks for all the awesome replys!!!
Get two come alongs. Two lengths of 2" steel pipe. Weld a heavy hinge half at the bottom to secure the base to the deck. Weld an attachment point about 3-4' up the pipe to secure the come along to. At the opposite end weld a strong pulley to run the come along cable over. You may, depending upon the types of loads you are lifting, want to weld a strong back along the length of pipe. Attach the load and crank it up. I'm doing a major remodel on the house and the crew are 65, 64,59 &57. We are to old to work hard. We have put up some big walls with this system and everyone has been safe doing so. Btw, we are working the a** off of that 57 yr old.
I can't lift much anymore, because I was one of those 4 guys people always used to call when they needed to lift something heavy. And, I did it. The "high lifts" used in HVAC work really well, and I like the idea of building in place, with the proper staging. My idea will give you a lifting system you can use when and where you need it.
I can't lift much anymore, because I was one of those 4 guys people always used to call when they needed to lift something heavy. And, I did it. The "high lifts" used in HVAC work really well, and I like the idea of building in place, with the proper staging. My idea will give you a lifting system you can use when and where you need it.
tcianci
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What is this beam supporting? You need to be aware that while getting a piece of steel to span 24 feet is not a problem, the resulting floor will have much more bounce than a laminated wood assembly. Think about this of you're planing ceramic tile for a floor finish supported by the beam.
fury9
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I use two Genie Lifts for setting I-beams, should work fine for you. If the forks on the Genie lift get in the way you can flip them upside down to clear obstructions above, just MAKE SURE you have the beam secured so it doesn't slide off.
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Cryptic1911
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When they did the framing for our garage, the lam-beams were still apart in 4 sections.. Two guys brought each piece up with a ladder. All together, it's 24"x7"x30'. I think all together it's like 1200lbs, but in 4 pieces it was manageable. If yours is all together now, you're going to have to walk it up with a jack of some sort on each side, or a couple genie lifts.. one at each end
theoldwizard1
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ddawg16
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Stink....I would highly suggest looking at my 2-story addition build....I'm using both PSL beams and Steel...Link is in my signature....
With the price of steel....I think it's somewhat of a wash....especially after all the welding goes into it....unless you can do it....
Your going to need some custom Simpson hangers....I made mine out of 1/4" plate steel...in a couple of cases, I cut up some Simpson hardware....then you have the issue of attaching stuff to it....it's welded or bolted.
With PSL....you can cut it with normal tools...and drive nails into it....
Just food for thought....
6768rogues
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A friend once used a dump truck with a telephone pole in the back sticking out over the cab. Attach the beam to the pole, lift the dump body and drive into place.
BD1
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If you go with steel beam, supplier may have boom truck to set in place. You may want to have beam drilled to fasten wood to if you plan on enclosing it in.
Riverside
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A few people have mentioned come-alongs. If you use them for lifting, just be aware they are really intended for horizontal moving, not overhead lifting. They will work, but they aren't the safest way since the spool can unwind quickly if there is a problem with the catch mechanism. (I have experienced this with a cheap come-along.) A chain hoist is a safer approach.
Justanoldguy
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BD1
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A lever handle chain come along can be used for lifting.
''The CM Puller is designed for heavy-duty construction and industrial applications. Used to pull, lift, drag or stretch. ''
http://www.aceindustries.com/p-72-34-ton-cm-lever-hoistbr640-series-come-along.aspx
What's a boom truck rent for in your area? I my area we can get an hour for about what you are looking at for renting the lifts, if everything is ready to go when the crane shows up an hour is a lot of time to make a couple lifts.
Clik
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Easy way to raise beam. There are even simpler pump jacks that climb a standard 4x4
Moose02
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Bib Overalls
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A backhoe can do it. The guys that did our septic system and geothermal loop system were on site when we were framing our garage. Put up two glue laminated beams in about five minutes.