Outlawmws
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O.. as well as the tray. There was a guy looking for a tray a few days ago. I'm sure he would really appreciate it. Make that box an organ donor.
And THEN put it out as bait for someone to steal!
it's 2013 garage sale season!...
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And THEN put it out as bait for someone to steal!
SackOHammers
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I was thinking the same thing about cannibalizing the parts off the Cman box for those that can use them. The emblems scuffed up but salvageable. And one latch is still serviceable but not pretty. The other one is mashed pretty badly but works. The tray is a continuous series of ripples and rust with a carry handle. Its shot. If someone wants the latches and the emblem, let me know.
Nothing special inside of the RCA box, I'm afraid. Lots of newer electrical caps and a super cheap set of nut drivers, nails, etc. (Better than the other box). The box itself is great. It needs a serious cleaning before I can say its in good or even fair shape. The things a cantilever box made out of plywood and covered with a skin if something like Naugahyde. It may be my electrical parts organizer seeing that its not big enough to be a practical tool box.
Nothing special inside of the RCA box, I'm afraid. Lots of newer electrical caps and a super cheap set of nut drivers, nails, etc. (Better than the other box). The box itself is great. It needs a serious cleaning before I can say its in good or even fair shape. The things a cantilever box made out of plywood and covered with a skin if something like Naugahyde. It may be my electrical parts organizer seeing that its not big enough to be a practical tool box.
msgtsmithret
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They are the Wilde 8" and not bad shape either.
Mohawk Dave
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Might have posted this already...can't remember if I was going to, or I did...
Anyway, a CL find last Sunday. $50. Dayton 6" VS grinder on, what I believe, is a Baldor stand. I see Baldor blue through the scratches of black paint. I thought it was a Grizzly at first, but the top section is Baldor design. I'll Simple Green the sticker on the front when I get some time and see what happens.
Anyway, a CL find last Sunday. $50. Dayton 6" VS grinder on, what I believe, is a Baldor stand. I see Baldor blue through the scratches of black paint. I thought it was a Grizzly at first, but the top section is Baldor design. I'll Simple Green the sticker on the front when I get some time and see what happens.
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No work light, no eye shields, looks like it has quite a bit of dust on it....
I would have passed. 
t4runner
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Its been a pretty dry garage sale season for me but I did find this Delta drill press [ #14-040 ]for $25. I should have taken a before photo but as soon as I got it home I started to clean it up, it wasn't in bad shape just a lot of surface rust. I had the smaller Delta bench top drill press [#11-990 ] sold that one for $75 in a day.
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Mohawk Dave
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No work light, no eye shields, looks like it has quite a bit of dust on it....
Living on the Edge like Steven Tyler! jk...one thing I've learned from GJ is safety and bodily protection first. Already got a bad back and neck, I'd like to keep my eyes and ears.
So, I will wear my ESS Goggles and turn the radio up to 11! uhhmmm..wait, I mean wear my Peltors.Dude said this grinder came from a Pep Boys workshop. It is dirty! and it is smaller than the pics make it look. The stand was worth it for sure.
gsmornot
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Its still better than the one I have. Both in stand and grinder so dont feel too bad about it. (not that you did)
msgtsmithret
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Nice benchtop drill press! I'm a little jealous, frankly. $25 is one helluva good deal.
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bigcaddy
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I made a quick stop with my old man this afternoon to a shop that i found on CL.
The guy has some great vises but out of my price range. I started to go through his junk boxes and paid 30 buck for this entire lot. My dad got some carbide bits and cutters for his mill so we both went home happy.
The guy has some great vises but out of my price range. I started to go through his junk boxes and paid 30 buck for this entire lot. My dad got some carbide bits and cutters for his mill so we both went home happy.
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msgtsmithret
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SO's are nice! What is that A. PLOMB tool? Looks a bit like a offset torque tool, but then again it doesn't.
You are acting like there are no garage sales in New Orleans
I was there for the Hash House Harriers Red Dress Run. What should I have worn for garage sailing. Thursday's red skirt, Friday's red negligee or Saturdays red dress?
bigcaddy
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A. Plomb is a early Plomb/Plvmb. The man that started the company was named Alphonse Plomb, hence the A. Plomb. You will find those markings on the earliest of his tools.
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Outlawmws
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Definitly the red negligee
TMI man!
Right, I see why he didn't stop by now, there was an open invite...Good thing too, I have a "no men in lingerie" rule around here.
TJJP77
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I don't know the "why" of it, but I do know these were sold by Craftsman for a while and Facom also sold some too. I think I recall someone saying the Craftsman ones were made for them by Facom.
Although yours don't appear to be like this, I do recall a "version" of these where the bent end had a hole drilled striaght through so they could be used on something with a long stud, kind of like the "pass through" ratchets available today...
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Hako86
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I went on vacation to England about 2 weeks ago and of course I had to stop at some local shops to look for old tools . This is what I bought for about $7. A Britool universal joint from 1953, an old 7/16x1/2 King **** wrench, a 9/32 Williams extension (I think it's from the 1940's) and an old 18x19(21) Hazet Special Material wrench. Unfortunately the 19mm end on the Hazet has been custom made into a 21mm, but it's still a nice wrench . If anyone knows what's the "special material", please let me know.
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Not really a garage sale find, but I also bought this awsome Thor hammer
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A few days ago my mom had a surprise for me... and look what she got for me
Two Gedore wrenches, a 18x19mm Hazet double box end wrench, a Sandvik wood clamp (don't know how you call it), a spark plug wrench/socket, a Gedore screwdriver, a Wuro screwdriver and a scewdriver with no brand on it. The wrenches were only 75 cents each (yes, also the Hazet was only 75 cents) and the scewdrivers were 50 cents each. Looks like a good deal to me
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. This is what I bought for about $7. A Britool universal joint from 1953, an old 7/16x1/2 King **** wrench, a 9/32 Williams extension (I think it's from the 1940's) and an old 18x19(21) Hazet Special Material wrench. Unfortunately the 19mm end on the Hazet has been custom made into a 21mm, but it's still a nice wrench . If anyone knows what's the "special material", please let me know.
Not really a garage sale find, but I also bought this awsome Thor hammer
A few days ago my mom had a surprise for me... and look what she got for me
Two Gedore wrenches, a 18x19mm Hazet double box end wrench, a Sandvik wood clamp (don't know how you call it), a spark plug wrench/socket, a Gedore screwdriver, a Wuro screwdriver and a scewdriver with no brand on it. The wrenches were only 75 cents each (yes, also the Hazet was only 75 cents
) and the scewdrivers were 50 cents each. Looks like a good deal to me
Now that is a sign they need to make.
So no one is going to ask me "pictures or it didn't happen" LOL
318fekim
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Some Channellock goodness from the flea market before work this mornin'....
5$
5$
Outlawmws
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Just use Google fu.
This is kinkier than the "Bay to Breakers" in SF...
This is kinkier than the "Bay to Breakers" in SF...
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rickhigginshtbr
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CL Score on my way home from work today! Not gonna lie, kinda awkward... Talked to the guy for a minute on the phone, asked if I could grab it on my way home from work since I drive right past his house. He works 2nd shift and no one would be home. So, he tells me it's next to his garage, under his BBQ, and just go grab it and leave the $10 somewhere. So all day at work I'm thinking okay, this guy is either extremely trusting for someone he only has talked to for a minute in his life, or I'm going to die. Well, I'm here, the box is here, he's just extremely trusting. And, he has more old tools he's looking to get rid of as well. Score!
The box itself measures 30"x9"x9" and is a 40's era CMan. Think the 3rd photo may be the model number? The 4th is a tag on the lid. Not quite sure yet if the saw holder in the top lid is factory or not, but there's a saw blade holder on the bottom as well. The saw is Stanley, probably 70's or 80's. Few Hilti drill bits, a Nicholson and CMan files, and Wiss snips. Not too shabby!
The box itself measures 30"x9"x9" and is a 40's era CMan. Think the 3rd photo may be the model number? The 4th is a tag on the lid. Not quite sure yet if the saw holder in the top lid is factory or not, but there's a saw blade holder on the bottom as well. The saw is Stanley, probably 70's or 80's. Few Hilti drill bits, a Nicholson and CMan files, and Wiss snips. Not too shabby!
Nice box! Coincidence I picked one of those up a few weeks back.
I think mine is a bit older. Pretty sure yours is late 50's to early 60's. Lucky the knock out tab is still present on yours. Attachments
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Outlawmws
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Nice box! Coincidence I picked one of those up a few weeks back.
on the date estimate. (Big surprise, huh ZK? )Really weird on the sale and the $$, I've had people have me come over to pick up freebies like that; never on a sale..
Yes, 6517 model number was used at least up to 1973 for that long carpenters box. The wood saw holder on the top lid is original too.
And nice score!
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rickhigginshtbr
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Weren't they using the Crown logo by the 60's? This CMan logo history tracking is so confusing lol. And the knock out... what does that say? Something Something For Tape?
(Big surprise, huh ZK?
I laughed pretty good when I saw the picture. Do you know when craftsman stopped using the dark blue? I noticed that mine does not have the ribs on the front as well. Even in the 1949 catalog, they show ribs on the front and list the finish as machinery grey. I can't find any hand tool catalogs from the mid 40's. I believe it is for a framing square, I just learned that in the past 48hrs,
rickhigginshtbr
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interesting... the one I snagged is definitely that gray, the color is real good on the back side... and that's about it
jakemac
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Could the knockout have been used to let one side of a carpenter's square out of the box ? How long is the hole ? It might accommodate the thin side of the square.
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Ahhhh, I didn't read all the way down zkling's post. Nevermind.
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Ahhhh, I didn't read all the way down zkling's post. Nevermind.
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Outlawmws
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There is a LOT of overlap with the logos and depending on supplier. (Remember this is ALL contract work with literally dozens of different suppliers for different items and tool boxes back then often had multiple suppliers for different models.
The winged (usually red) oval (Other ovals were sued in 30's/40's but were yellow or sky blue) was primarily 50's but for a few items as early as 47, and as late as 64, again, just a few item past 1959-60.
Crown started as early as 59 or 60, tailed off in 66-67, but continued for some items as late as 73, maybe later. (No catalogs...)
The Bold Craftsman name plate also started as early as 59, and went at least to 73, and probably much later.
OK after teasing you guys a bit it is time to get my man card back. A post by Egnorant in the tanker desk refurb thread led me too a Texarkana Craigslist ad about a guy selling desks in Hope Arkansas with a couple of tanker desks in the pictures. An email to him last night and a phone call from him this morning and I hooked up the small trailer to the Excursion and headed 70 miles due north. When I got there I found out the place was an old handle factory for axes, shovels, hammers and such. Here's a little info.
"Hempstead county's rich hardwood forests provided good timber for lumber companies and manufacturers. The Ivory Handle Factory, incorporated in 1901, produced hardwood handles that were shipped worldwide, in addition to other wood products. It became Bruner Ivory Handle Factory in 1933, was sold to a Tennessee company in 1980, and closed in 2004."
First off I checked out the desks and picked out the 3 best tanker desks I could find for $90 total. These were quick pictures in the dark and these still need cleaning, what looks like rust spots is pretty much just dirt.
The brownish looking 6 drawer with the external handles is a Haskell from Philadelphia. The two legs with two adjusters each are rather squarish. It has two pull out writing areas as well. I will clean, lubricate and sell this one.
The grey one with 5 drawers has 4 art deco curved aluminum legs. I have not found a name on this one yet. It is in decent shape and will probably be the one I keep. The slim pull outs are not writing areas like the other one but shallow drawers. I think they can be turned upside down for writing areas if you want to. I like the recessed handles too.
The last desk is a mint green. It has two nice tapered legs with two adjusters each. It would be easy to put stem casters in there. It has the rise up typewriter section behind the drawer on the left. I have thoughts about using this one and putting my printer behind there. One drawback to this one is the narrow leg well, only 20" wide compared to 29" for the gray one. It has one pull out area on the right.
Then I started looking at other hidey holes. This was several large buidlings on 20 acres of land and I am sure I didn't even come close to seeing everything. Most of the machinery is gone. There were a lot of unfinished handles there, if I ever go back I will probably pick some up. There were a lot of old push carts there, the really good ones were already sold but I picked up two I liked for $150 including an extra set of wheels. I will clean them up, keep one and sell the other.
I did find one hammer handle, the guy said he would keep an eye out for more.
"Hempstead county's rich hardwood forests provided good timber for lumber companies and manufacturers. The Ivory Handle Factory, incorporated in 1901, produced hardwood handles that were shipped worldwide, in addition to other wood products. It became Bruner Ivory Handle Factory in 1933, was sold to a Tennessee company in 1980, and closed in 2004."
First off I checked out the desks and picked out the 3 best tanker desks I could find for $90 total. These were quick pictures in the dark and these still need cleaning, what looks like rust spots is pretty much just dirt.
The brownish looking 6 drawer with the external handles is a Haskell from Philadelphia. The two legs with two adjusters each are rather squarish. It has two pull out writing areas as well. I will clean, lubricate and sell this one.
The grey one with 5 drawers has 4 art deco curved aluminum legs. I have not found a name on this one yet. It is in decent shape and will probably be the one I keep. The slim pull outs are not writing areas like the other one but shallow drawers. I think they can be turned upside down for writing areas if you want to. I like the recessed handles too.
The last desk is a mint green. It has two nice tapered legs with two adjusters each. It would be easy to put stem casters in there. It has the rise up typewriter section behind the drawer on the left. I have thoughts about using this one and putting my printer behind there. One drawback to this one is the narrow leg well, only 20" wide compared to 29" for the gray one. It has one pull out area on the right.
Then I started looking at other hidey holes. This was several large buidlings on 20 acres of land and I am sure I didn't even come close to seeing everything. Most of the machinery is gone. There were a lot of unfinished handles there, if I ever go back I will probably pick some up. There were a lot of old push carts there, the really good ones were already sold but I picked up two I liked for $150 including an extra set of wheels. I will clean them up, keep one and sell the other.
I did find one hammer handle, the guy said he would keep an eye out for more.
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jakemac
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The key feature is the handle. If I remember right, the metal handle was used in the late 50's and replaced with a plastic handle around '61-'63 (?). Before the late 50's I think they used a leather wrapped handle. I'm sure that someone else can pin it down better than me. I'd date the carpenter's box in the '57-'60 range.
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I'm thoroughly confused. Here is a clip from the 1949 catalog.
Does anyone have a time frame on the blueish craftsman tool boxes?
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Good score bluebolt, I really like that first one and the second one is pretty cool too!
Cool box Rick, glad you weren't kidnapped and used as a dress for next years bluebolt-red-run, that's some freaky sh!t right there boy....
Cool box Rick, glad you weren't kidnapped and used as a dress for next years bluebolt-red-run, that's some freaky sh!t right there boy....
jakemac
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I'm thoroughly confused. Here is a clip from the 1949 catalog.
Does anyone have a time frame on the blueish craftsman tool boxes?
I stand corrected. I should know better than to rely on my memory.
