Another Radio Arm Saw

[Kev442]

CL is fun for us Olds guys. They own the car and see the nameplate on the outside and inside every day, but they are selling a:

Cutless
Cutles
Cutlas
cutty
kutlas

In some ways it helps, there is no way I would buy one from someone advertising a cutty or kutlas.

And around here, an awful lot of people drink "malk".

 

[BearCuda]

Yeah, speaking of craigslist listings, I search Barracuda a lot, but I also search baracuda. A lot of people don't even know how to spell their very own car correctly. There are a lot of crazy spellings for different cars.

 

[Zeke]

Yeah, speaking of craigslist listings, I search Barracuda a lot, but I also search baracuda. A lot of people don't even know how to spell their very own car correctly. There are a lot of crazy spellings for different cars.

That's axually purdy samrt. Using misspellings in searches often reveals some good finds that are overlooked by correct spellers. For instance, if I'm looking for a lathe I will use "lath" in the tool section. Those that spell lathe w/o the e don't know **** about what they have in many instances. And in some, they know more than most.

 

[rharman]

That's a newer FM saw. The old ones were just AM.

I'm holding out for the HD1 version but may end up with the satellite one.

 

[Modern Jess]

"Aluminium" is the British way of spelling and saying aluminum. It was discovered by an English scientist.

Yes, but he (Humphry Davy) named it "aluminum". Some anonymous jackass at the Quarterly Review decided to rename it.

From wikipedia:

Davy settled on aluminum by the time he published his 1812 book Chemical Philosophy: "This substance appears to contain a peculiar metal, but as yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly free state, though alloys of it with other metalline substances have been procured sufficiently distinct to indicate the probable nature of alumina."[69] But the same year, an anonymous contributor to the Quarterly Review, a British political-literary journal, in a review of Davy's book, objected to aluminum and proposed the name aluminium, "for so we shall take the liberty of writing the word, in preference to aluminum, which has a less classical sound."

So, yeah. I'm sticking to aluminum.

 

[WVBrady]

Yes, but he (Humphry Davy) named it "aluminum". Some anonymous jackass at the Quarterly Review decided to rename it.

From wikipedia:



So, yeah. I'm sticking to aluminum.

I think that the British way is easier to pronounce. Once I started listening for it I found that a lot of people around here say "alunium".

 

[Keyrick]

The plural for the word "Equipment" is Equipment, not Equipments!

 

[breeaad]

Well, 'irregardless...'

Sad thing is that irregardless is actually a proper word. I never thought so either, but live and learn....and google.

 

[breeaad]

One that I am seeing more and more is "I have an item for sell". Drives me crazy!

Or "I will sale it". Good one!!!

 

[Cadillac STS]

"Literacy is imporDant" Laura Bush

 

[djjsr]

Sad thing is that irregardless is actually a proper word. I never thought so either, but live and learn....and google.

It's not a proper word. Dictionaries call it nonstandard.

"Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable."

Regardless is 'without regard'. Irregardless is 'not without regard'. Because it changes the meaning of the word, it makes no sense. I guess any improper word, if it's used often enough, could make it to a dictionary. The dictionary doesn't make it proper, it just offers an explanation.

 

[EVOLVO]

Welcome to are house. boy o boy!

 

[breeaad]

VIN number

 

[91FE]

I was messing with some wiring the other day and got electrocuted. Ummm... No you didn't, jackass.

 

[BFBOB]

VIN number

^^Yeah! and ATM machine.

 

[HTGTS350]

Cummings engines makes my blood boil, If you don't know what it is have a look at the rocker cover, oh and that's another one the "rocket" cover.

 

[Aquaticbob]

Hydrolic fluid really irritates me. I had an employee label a fluid catch with that... Also to add on, Hot water heater.

 

[Boiler]

I hate the word orientated. Oriented is adequate.

 

[WildwoodChuck]

"Can I Axe you something" Yes you can the wood pile is at my dads house feel free to stop by and axe it all you want.

In conversation I try to go over what they told me and insert the correct word/words for what they said wrong but most of the time they miss the correction and continue saying it their way. “Its mind bottling”

 

[HTGTS350]

Running mucks isn't the plural for running amok.

 

[Punchwood]

John Deer is a good Craigslist misspell. Camero drives me insane, I mean, for the love of Christ it's on YOUR car.

 

[HTGTS350]

Sa, Baar, Oo, is not how the Japanese(who make them say it) it is Soo, Ba, Roo, get it right. Much like Doo, Car, Ti, it is Due, Cat, I, just like the Italians(who make them) say it. I could go on and on, like Ti, O, Ta........... and Jag, Warr.

 

[Modern Jess]

Regardless is 'without regard'. Irregardless is 'not without regard'. Because it changes the meaning of the word, it makes no sense. I guess any improper word, if it's used often enough, could make it to a dictionary. The dictionary doesn't make it proper, it just offers an explanation.

I think most people get way too caught up in the construction of this (nonstandard) word. Generally, when someone says "irregardless", we all know what they meant. Pretending that it isn't a word (when it is) or that one doesn't understand the word (when we do) is just pedantic obstinance.

There are plenty of words in the English language that are badly constructed and yet they are used every single day without causing anyone to break out in hives. English, on the whole, is not a very rational language. It's a potpourri of words from other languages, stolen, corrupted and modified to suit our needs over hundreds and hundreds of years. Why pick on irregardless? Because your 5th grade English teacher told you it wasn't a word. In point of fact, she was lying. Or maybe just ignorant.

 

[Jim B]

"His poor welding technique really doesn't cut the mustard". Really...mustard?!?! Like "Mustard the troops". It's muster, fool. Doesn't cut the muster.

 

[notso]

And surprising the people that do not know that Snapon does not make a Crescent wrench, they do make an adjustable wrench though.

 

[Stevie-Ray]

My two pet peeves are when someone says nucular, like my old boss with his master's degree, and when somebody says according to, when they mean depends on.

 

[Modern Jess]

"His poor welding technique really doesn't cut the mustard". Really...mustard?!?! Like "Mustard the troops". It's muster, fool. Doesn't cut the muster.

Nope. It's mustard. It's been "mustard" for over 100 years -- dating back to O.Henry's use of the phrase in "Cabbages and Kings" in 1904 (and possibly earlier). His use of the phrase may (or may not -- depends on who you ask) have been related to the phrase "pass muster" (there are many theories of how it came to be) but the phrase itself -- "cut the mustard" -- is definitely, positively correct.

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2012/11/popular-idioms-explained/

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Why pick on irregardless? Because your 5th grade English teacher told you it wasn't a word. In point of fact, she was lying. Or maybe just ignorant.

And where did you get this fact? Irregardless is not a word just because it appears in the American Heritage Dictionary, where ever word that people stubbornly use with bad form eventually appears. Also, the definition is regardless, effectively making users of irregardless the ignorant ones. If it was a word, it would mean, as stated above, not without regard.

I take it you're one that uses it.

 

[Riverside]

A former engineer boss used to say "six of one and a dozen of another".

You might have been able to use that to your advantage in salary negotiations.

 

[Modern Jess]

And where did you get this fact? Irregardless is not a word just because it appears in the American Heritage Dictionary, where ever word that people stubbornly use with bad form eventually appears. Also, the definition is regardless, effectively making users of irregardless the ignorant ones. If it was a word, it would mean, as stated above, not without regard.

I take it you're one that uses it.

Nope. I don't use it (unless I'm deliberately trying to irritate someone who I think is particularly pedantic). I am, however, keenly interested in the malleability of the English language and what makes English the chaotic mess that it is.

What I don't think most English speakers understand about their native language is that defining what is "correct" or "incorrect" (or in this case "nonstandard") isn't really a clear-cut process. There is no standards body (such as exists for French) that dictates what is considered "English". Every single entity producing English-language dictionaries will tell you the same thing: the job of a dictionary is to reflect -- and NOT dictate -- usage. Thus, if a word is in common use -- even if nonstandard -- then that word will eventually make it into a dictionary. This is especially true if the word appears in print.

There are two factors that make "irregardless" a word: (1) It appears in dictionaries. (2) We all know what it means (or at least is intended to mean). Realistically, that's all that is required for it to be considered a word. You don't have to like the word, and you don't have to use the word. But to claim that it is not a word is simply incorrect. It's a word if it's in the dictionary.

From Merriam Webster:

Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that “there is no such word.” There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead.

From American Heritage:

Irregardless is a word that many people mistakenly believe to be correct in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. The word was coined in the United States in the early 1900s, presumably from a blend of irrespective and regardless. Many critics have complained that it is a redundancy, the negative prefix ir- duplicating the negativity of the -less suffix. Perhaps its reputation as a blend of ill-fitting parts has caused some to insist that it is a "nonword," a charge they would not think of leveling at a nonstandard word with a longer history, such as ain't. Since people use irregardless, it is undoubtedly a word in the broader sense of the language, but it has never been accepted in Standard English and is virtually always changed by copyeditors to regardless. The Usage Panel has roundly disapproved of its use since polling began; in 2012, 90 percent found the sentence A scientist investigating a social issue should seek to find out the truth, irregardless of its political implications to be unacceptable.

 

[BearCuda]

I know someone very close to me that when pronouncing shrimp, she always says Su-rimp. No matter how many times I call her on it, she just can't pronounce it correctly. She says Sh_t just fine though. I tell her to pronounce it by starting with that and stopping short to add rimp. Can't do it.

 

[djjsr]

Use any words you like, even improper words like "irregardless". Keep butchering and bastardizing the English language. Teach your children to do the same. They hear the **** in music and on tv every day and they continue to communicate ok, so I guess it really doesn't matter much.

In a few more generations, the rest of the world will be referring to us as "dumb-*** Americans" and everyone will be speaking like this guy ....... and he's famous!

 

[Big Gus]

I pertineer read this entire thread without laughing.

 

[Modern Jess]

Use any words you like, even improper words like "irregardless". Keep butchering and bastardizing the English language. Teach your children to do the same. They hear the **** in music and on tv every day and they continue to communicate ok, so I guess it really doesn't matter much.

In a few more generations, the rest of the world will be referring to us as "dumb-*** Americans" and everyone will be speaking like this guy ....... and he's famous!

Cynicism aside, the English language has evolved extensively from its origins to the point where most present-day English speakers are unable to comprehend what was written as little as 1000 years ago. Try reading "Beowulf" in its original form, and you'll likely be completely bewildered:

HWÆT, WE GAR-DEna in geardagum,
þeodcyninga þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon!
oft Scyld Scefing sceaþena þreatum,
monegum mægþum meodosetla ofteah,
egsode eorlas, syððanærest wearð
feasceaft funden; he þæs frofre gebad,
weox under wolcnum weorðmyndum þah,
oð þæt him æghwylc ymbsittendra
ofer hronrade hyran scolde,
gomban gyldan; þæt wæs god cyning!

Even Shakespeare's plays, written barely 400 years ago, are challenging for present-day readers:

Seems, madam! nay it is; I know not 'seems.'
'Tis not alone my inky cloak, good mother,
Nor customary suits of solemn black,
Nor windy suspiration of forced breath,
No, nor the fruitful river in the eye,
Nor the dejected 'havior of the visage,
Together with all forms, moods, shapes of grief,
That can denote me truly: these indeed seem,
For they are actions that a man might play:
But I have that within which passeth show;
These but the trappings and the suits of woe.

And in fact, Shakespeare was considered decidedly low-brow in his time. Now we hold him up as perhaps the most important author in the entirety of English.

English is and has always been a language of continual change -- what you call butchery and bastardization, others call evolution. That's just English for you. There's no need to lament what is in fact the single defining element of English: that it is a dynamic, flexible, and malleable language.

Tangentially related: why don't they speak Latin in Italy?

 

[TireTracks]

My aunt says " Tay-Ota"
and she works for them.

 

[Kevin54]

Ironically, you just "stepped in it" yourself in this post. It's "have seen". One that drives me nuts is, "I seen this car" NO! It's, "I saw this car" or "I have seen these cars".

As for reading? My opinion is that many, many simply do NOT read books. Ask ten random friends and if they're truthful I'd be surprised if even half have read an entire book ANY time since high school and many didn't even read one then!

I do admit, I screw that up all of the time. English was one of the worst subjects I had trouble with. I do try though as I get older to at least show a little initiative with phrases. It took me quite a few years to get "they're, there, and their", straightened out. And I imagine I have problems with a lot more. But then again, I'm half hillbilly, so I guess I'll use that as an excuse. At least that's what my dad told me. Along with talking or having an accent like a southern person, my dad told me my mom's family was Irish Hilligan. So that in itself leaves me with some screwed up language.

 

[GTA Matt]

Told a lady one time she needed new tires. Her response: 'yeah, I been needin' to buy some new michigan radios'...After repeating it 3 times, it clicked in my head. Michelin radials

Not that I am perfect or a spelling/grammar natzi, but some I see here and other places on a daily basis:
defiantly--definitely
sale--sell
to--too
their-there-they're
your--you're
a--an

Nothing's funnier than to see someone say 'your a idiot'

 

[BearCuda]

Nothing's funnier than to see someone say 'your a idiot'

A lot of people here might not even know why this is incorrect. Please explain the proper usage of "a" and "an" when preceding a noun with a vowel or consonant.

 

[lessersivad]

fridg-e-ater = refrigerator

grad-gee-ated = graduated

 

[Kev442]

Ha! I go around that one with a word I invented myself: re-frigid-eezer. No-one acknowledges the freezer part properly as far as I'm concerned.