The VISES of Garage Journal

[balane]

I'm betting Balane masked it off before painting. On some vises that area rises above the first green part and some careful sanding can remove the overspray. Either method works.

I, personally, do mask those curves. First I find something that matches the arc of the curve, like a plastic lid or plate, then I put a piece of 2" wide painter's tape down on something flat that's easy to pull it off of. I lay the lid/plate down on the tape and trace the edge with a marker. Peel off the tape, trim along the line with a pair of scissors and then put it on the slide to line up with the curve. Mask everything else, paint and remove. It's easy.

 

[Filson]

I, personally, do mask those curves. First I find something that matches the arc of the curve, like a plastic lid or plate, then I put a piece of 2" wide painter's tape down on something flat that's easy to pull it off of. I lay the lid/plate down on the tape and trace the edge with a marker. Peel off the tape, trim along the line with a pair of scissors and then put it on the slide to line up with the curve. Mask everything else, paint and remove. It's easy.

And here, I thought you slapped the piss out of your roll of tape against your magic vise stump and it turned out just the way you wanted.

 

[Monte]

hello,
Last week i restored my late 50's/ early 60's heuer vice that i inherited from my great grand father.

nice Heuer !











NOS Schlegel EMF 100 vise

 

[McBrownie]

NOS Schlegel EMF 100 vise

Monte, a very nice vise. I know nothing about Schlegel's. I'm assuming that this is an older vise, but is it not old enough to need an "East/West" Germany designation?

 

[scrapdaddy]

Anybody have a Ridgid vise. These aren't old, but have 6" jaws made of brass. I bought the table and two vises for $125. Heck of a deal. I mounted my Reed 106 with steel jaws, on the other end. I bought another table with a Columbian vise on it, for $100.

I was thinking of trying to find some steel jaws for one of the Ridgid vises.

 

[Fretters]

I was thinking of trying to find some steel jaws for one of the Ridgid vises.

I'd stick with the brass, personally. It's pretty much the perfect insert material if you don't abuse your vices. Nice and soft, (almost like copper, but won't marr as easily), yet won't damage anything but the softest of things in the jaws.

 

[Outlawmws]

I like the looks of that Heuer vise; kind of funky.

Greats score on the Rigids! they come up once in a while, and are always well thought of!

Good job on keeping the Reed on the opposite end of the bench, you don't want that Reed fighting with the Rigids!

 

[McBrownie]

I don't understand this logic...

Well, as my Grandmother used to say " wantin' ain't gettin' " Does that help?

 

[zkling]

Greats score on the Rigids! they come up once in a while, and are always well thought of!

How do they compare to the other big old names like Rock Island, Prentiss and the like? There was one recently, a 6", it looked solid, but the weight spec was either way off or? Seemed drastically lighter than a 6" from the other brands.

 

[scrapdaddy]

I like the looks of that Heuer vise; kind of funky.

Greats score on the Rigids! they come up once in a while, and are always well thought of!

Good job on keeping the Reed on the opposite end of the bench, you don't want that Reed fighting with the Rigids!

Yeah, you're right. That Reed is always talking trash to the Ridgids. As far as the weight goes, the Ridgids seem as heavy as the Reed. They all came out of a hydro. cylinder shop.

 

[Filson]

Well, as my Grandmother used to say " wantin' ain't gettin' " Does that help?

Nope!

"Are ya living or simply alive?"

 

[Filson]

Yeah, you're right. That Reed is always talking trash to the Ridgids. As far as the weight goes, the Ridgids seem as heavy as the Reed. They all came out of a hydro. cylinder shop.

That Reed is ****. You should send it to me, and I'll send you a check so you break even.

 

[scrapdaddy]

That Reed is ****. You should send it to me, and I'll send you a check so you break even.

Thanks Man! glad somebody has my back.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Anybody have a Ridgid vise. These aren't old, but have 6" jaws made of brass. I bought the table and two vises for $125. Heck of a deal. I mounted my Reed 106 with steel jaws, on the other end. I bought another table with a Columbian vise on it, for $100.

I was thinking of trying to find some steel jaws for one of the Ridgid vises.

Hey Scrapdaddy: You did great! A couple of months ago I picked 3, 6" vises for $75.00 ea. They were >50 years old. I nominate you for a "you ****" award.

All the vise friends who posted recently: Y'all got great looking vises. Sorry but I've been in lurker mode lately.

 

[superautobacs]

These are pictures from 2009...

Here's my "No.4 Nodular" Schulz mechanics vise:

It reads: Joinville / S. Catarina / "Technologia De Vanguarda"
In the center: Ind. Brasileira


Schulz started making bench vises in the 60s.

 

[bigcaddy]

I just finished up my little Paramo No.1 this afternoon. It came out so nice i might just have to keep this one instead of letting it go

 

[Monte]

Monte, a very nice vise. I know nothing about Schlegel's. I'm assuming that this is an older vise, but is it not old enough to need an "East/West" Germany designation?

I guess it´s from more recent production. The company stopped production in 2010 or 2011. They´re selling the remains on ebay right now.
http://stores.ebay.de/DURBAL-Vertriebsgesellschaft-mbH?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

 

[Pascal]

Hi,

I just picked up this vice.

Can someone help me identify it?

The jaws are 14cm (about 5,5inch), they open 17cm (about 6,7 inch)

Thanks!

 

[WallynSC]

Pascal, Welcome to Garage Journal, very interesting.

 

[Mark in Indiana]

Pascal: There appears to be a locking handle on the nose of your vise. What is that for?

 

[Filson]

A great looking 6" Prentiss 518 in Eastern Washington for $250, hope someone goes and picks it up!

http://spokane.craigslist.org/tls/4453177177.html

 

[va.grouseman]

Previously posted by Pascal
I just picked up this vice.

Can someone help me identify it?

The jaws are 14cm (about 5,5inch), they open 17cm (about 6,7 inch)
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Ok B100, what is it?----Let's have it.

 

[Craptain]

Hi,

I just picked up this vice.

Can someone help me identify it?

The jaws are 14cm (about 5,5inch), they open 17cm (about 6,7 inch)

Thanks!

Pascal,
Can't offer much help. But it is a great looking vise. From my very rusty French I think that Brevet is Patent or document, so perhaps you could start by looking up that number wherever you are. France? Belgium?

I see that you have been around for a while and this is your first post.

 

[Fretters]

That's a very nice vice Pascal. No idea what it is, but I like it.

Pascal: There appears to be a locking handle on the nose of your vise. What is that for?

I was wondering about that handle too.

 

[bl00]

I don't know, but it looks pretty stout. No luck searching, but it might be easier if I could figure out what "UA. H" is for.

Previously posted by Pascal
I just picked up this vice.

Can someone help me identify it?

The jaws are 14cm (about 5,5inch), they open 17cm (about 6,7 inch)
---------------------------------------------------------------------


Ok B100, what is it?----Let's have it.

 

[Filson]

I don't know, but it looks pretty stout. No luck searching, but it might be easier if I could figure out what "UA. H" is for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_hryvnia

Best I could come up with.

 

[Outlawmws]

Pascal: There appears to be a locking handle on the nose of your vise. What is that for?

That's a very nice vice Pascal. No idea what it is, but I like it.




I was wondering about that handle too.

I'm going to guess: Quick release

 

[Fretters]

That'd definitely make sense, especially with the design/style of this vice. Just seems a bit skimpy in proportions for something like that, and also why allow 3/4 rotation or so travel on it. It's a better guess than mine as to its function though.

 

[AndrewH]

Found a Desmond Stephan / Simplex 43S today for $50. It came out of a machine shop. Seems to be in great condition! Weighs about 70 lbs and has 4 3/4" jaws. The only problem is it's missing one of the screws that holds the jaw pads. Looks like a very unique screw so I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a replacement easily.

 

[bigcaddy]

Found a Desmond Stephan / Simplex 43S today for $50. It came out of a machine shop. Seems to be in great condition! Weighs about 70 lbs and has 4 3/4" jaws. The only problem is it's missing one of the screws that holds the jaw pads. Looks like a very unique screw so I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a replacement easily.

If its a slotted screw, they can be had pretty easily and turned on a lathe to the correct shape. The large 5/16" phillips are the ones that can't be found.......at least for now

 

[AndrewH]

If its a slotted screw, they can be had pretty easily and turned on a lathe to the correct shape. The large 5/16" phillips are the ones that can't be found.......at least for now

Its the same screw that is holding the collar on in the picture. Theres 2 per jaw pad plus the one on the collar. I read somewhere else while doing some research that it has a unique taper that isn't made to any standard.

Andrew

 

[ABSTIFFGS]

I'll play. I got this HUGE vise from a coworker. He wanted something smaller. I had a 4" craftsmen that he traded me even up for. Does anybody have any info on this thing?

 

[Outlawmws]

Its the same screw that is holding the collar on in the picture. Theres 2 per jaw pad plus the one on the collar. I read somewhere else while doing some research that it has a unique taper that isn't made to any standard.

Andrew

You take a Std Screw and "Make it So" like BC said.

If without a lathe, you could also chuck one up in a DP and file it. Time consuming, but doable.

 

[bigcaddy]

You take a Std Screw and "Make it So" like BC said.

If without a lathe, you could also chuck one up in a DP and file it. Time consuming, but doable.

That can be sped up greatly with the use of an angle grinder and a set of calipers locked into the size you are shooting for. Just keep checking from time to time and you will get it perfect

 

[Fretters]

If without a lathe, you could also chuck one up in a DP and file it. Time consuming, but doable.

I'm not the only one who resorts to that type of thinking then. On that point, been considering for a while making something, or using a lathe headstock assembly, just for holding parts to spin for filing, rather than resorting to using the lathe. Would take up less room, no chance of stabbing yourself with the currently installed toolbit, and no worrying about getting any rough **** on the ways. It's another of those things on the rather long todo list.

 

[Outlawmws]

I'll play. I got this HUGE vise from a coworker. He wanted something smaller. I had a 4" craftsmen that he traded me even up for. Does anybody have any info on this thing?

You got screwed, I'd be glad to trade you another Craftsman so you don't take a loss..

AS went out of business in 1960, so it's at least that old.

 

[Outlawmws]

I'm not the only one who resorts to that type of thinking then. On that point, been considering for a while making something, or using a lathe headstock assembly, just for holding parts to spin for filing, rather than resorting to using the lathe. Would take up less room, no chance of stabbing yourself with the currently installed toolbit, and no worrying about getting any rough **** on the ways. It's another of those things on the rather long todo list.

If you are going to set up something like that could it be made for either horizontal or vertical (upwards facing) orientation? Depending on what you are doing one might be easier to deal with than the other.

Hmmm, maybe a good use for part of a Shop Smith...

 

[ABSTIFFGS]

You got screwed, I'd be glad to trade you another Craftsman so you don't take a loss..

AS went out of business in 1960, so it's at least that old.

LOL, I bet you would. That's neat it could be that old. I'm not having much luck finding any ino on it.

 

[Fretters]

If you are going to set up something like that could it be made for either horizontal or vertical (upwards facing) orientation? Depending on what you are doing one might be easier to deal with than the other.

Hmmm, maybe a good use for part of a Shop Smith...

I like that idea. Hadn't considered that. My idea had just been to static bench mount, horizontally, but a swivel arrangement sounds much better. As you say, some tasks are easier from a different angle. Going to have to get the brain in gear on that idea.

Any photo's of a Shop Smith unit for reference?

 

[Fretters]

A classic example of why not to use a vice as a press.

Not mine, might I add. Apparently trying to flatten the end of a tube in the jaws was the killer of this one.